The Error of KJV-Onlyism

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jamessb

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No, I have learned over the years that all the false doctrine comes thru seminaries and bible colleges and it's where people go to be indoctrinated to follow the crowd, to follow the traditions of men by accepting reformed theology which is chocked full of error and is not biblical.

So when someone claims they have a degree in pastoral studies, theology, or whatever - that's a sign that they have been indoctrinated into following the traditions of men rather than following what God's Word says

Feel free to follow these pointy headed people that are educated beyond their intellect in the wisdom of men if you so desire, but I'll pass.

I learned this the hard way after having attended churches as a young man that taught false doctrine that led to living in defeat which is NOT what God's Word teaches for those who have been been bought and purchased by the Blood of the Lamb





I appreciate that - we'll see how long that lasts! View attachment 261381
So educated people have been misled, but uneducated people know the truth. Are you c-r-a-z-y???

By you own admission -- I learned this the hard way after having attended churches as a young man that taught false doctrine -- you are contradicting yourself! LOL!

Even funnier: you were a young man that taught false doctrine???
 

jamessb

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Moving the goalposts (or shifting the goalposts) is a metaphor, derived from goal-based sports such as football and hockey, that means to change the rule or criterion (goal) of a process or competition while it is still in progress, in such a way that the new goal offers one side an advantage or disadvantage. (source: Wikipedia)

And here it is...







You are redefining what constitutes "error" so that you can deny that the KJV has any errors. That is exactly the behaviour to which "moving the goalposts" refers.

As for this...


No, we just demand that you use THE SAME STANDARDS for the KJV that you use for every other translation. You will refuse because the KJV cannot stand the degree of scrutiny you apply to anything else.
In case you're not aware... King James is l-o-n-g dead. And His personal (corrupt) standards died with him.

What do you have against scholarship???
 

Bible_Highlighter

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Yeah as in denying things God said in His Word as they follow reformed theology which is the wisdom of man that they teach as though it is the wisdom of God. False doctrine! (calvinism, luthernism, and catholicism)
So do you believe there is a perfect, inerrant, inspired Bible you can hold in your hands?

You said:
OK, so if someone does not enthusiastically agree with you, they are your enemy - I see how you are View attachment 261384
You are quick to judge and assume wrongfully about a person. In reality, I would fellowship with a believer who did not hold to KJV Bible believing position, as long as they did not attack the KJV belief and or KJB folk or they did not create their own translation. For example: I would fellowship with the brethren at Pinpoint Evangelism (head up by Kerrigan Shelly). He is not KJV only. Kerrigan has some really excellent videos against Calvinism.

While this is a video not about refuting Calvinism, it really is one of my favorites by him.


May God bless you.
 

posthuman

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all i'm seeing are transliterations of Pascha

Eos is German for East - and Eoster as a word comes from German translations about the same period of a great antisemitism in the area.

using this imaginary word in a translation of the Bible into a pagan language (like English, zb) is a remnant of trying to remove all things Jewish from Christianity.

Christ died on Pascha. it's a feast day. He rose on Firstfruits. also a feast day. He did that on purpose.
@Bible_Highlighter --- see this thread where some 5 years ago i made an extensive survey of available old manuscripts of Bibles.

"ostern / eostar / astarte" does NOT show up in any Bible anywhere until around the 15th century, and it isn't in English Bibles, but in German ones. and they replace everything in the whole OT with "ishtar" too. it's a result of antisemetic replacement theology, a point of view Luther is fairly well known to agree with, and who weirdly lived about the same time.

but, this word had become so entrenched in the 'christendom' of the reformation, which largely grew from these Germanic regions, that by the time the kj translation comes around that they apparently left it in there - against all honest scholarship - even though it is not found in ANY Greek or Hebrew text anywhere, ever. Pascha is ubiquitous in Greek, Pesach in Hebrew. they didn't even have the decency to put it all over the entire Bible as if, as has been erroneously claimed, it is indeed synonymous with Pesach. no, only in one place, a nod to human tradition, completely ignoring the fact that the scripture in the languages God chose for it to be recorded says no such thing.

btw did you know that the gemmatria of "cabal sowing confusion" is 1611?
 
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So educated people have been misled, but uneducated people know the truth. Are you c-r-a-z-y???

By you own admission -- I learned this the hard way after having attended churches as a young man that taught false doctrine -- you are contradicting yourself! LOL!

Even funnier: you were a young man that taught false doctrine???

Yes, years ago I attended some churches that taught the false doctrines of reformed theology.

Since then I have learned to go study God's Word for myself because the false doctrines of reformed theology come from those that are educated in the religious wisdom of mankind in seminaries and bible colleges

So, it was the Spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ ) that has proven to be knowledgeable instead of those that have been educated in the religious wisdom of mankind in seminaries and bible colleges

satan uses seminaries and bible colleges to train people in the false doctrines of reformed theology.
 

Bible_Highlighter

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all i'm seeing are transliterations of Pascha

Eos is German for East - and Eoster as a word comes from German translations about the same period of a great antisemitism in the area.

using this imaginary word in a translation of the Bible into a pagan language (like English, zb) is a remnant of trying to remove all things Jewish from Christianity.

Christ died on Pascha. it's a feast day. He rose on Firstfruits. also a feast day. He did that on purpose.
Look. William Tyndale invented the word “Passover” and before that time, the English word “Easter” was used. That’s the point. Please search perplexity.ai or search elsewhere and it is a basic fact.
 

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@Bible_Highlighter --- see this thread where some 5 years ago i made an extensive survey of available old manuscripts of Bibles.

"ostern / eostar / astarte" does NOT show up in any Bible anywhere until around the 15th century, and it isn't in English Bibles, but in German ones. and they replace everything in the whole OT with "ishtar" too. it's a result of antisemetic replacement theology, but had become so entrenched in 'christendom' by the time the kj translation comes around that they apparently left it in there even though it is not found in ANY Greek or Hebrew text anywhere, ever. Pascha is ubiquitous in Greek, Pesach in Hebrew.


btw did you know that the gemmatria of "cabal sowing confusion" is 1611?
You’re not getting it. Who invented the word Passover?
 

posthuman

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Look. William Tyndale invented the word “Passover” and before that time, the English word “Easter” was used. That’s the point. Please search perplexity.ai or search elsewhere and it is a basic fact.
nope.

there was no English translation whatsoever before 'Ostern' started showing up purely in Germanic Bibles. Tyndale took his cues from Luther, who got this imaginary word from a growing tradition of deleting as much Jewishness as possible from Christianity. "Ishtar" was introduced from the Germanic tradition. it is an imaginary word, not a Biblical one. there is 0 legitimate reason for it to be in any translation.

go read the research i pointed to.
 

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@Bible_Highlighter --- see this thread where some 5 years ago i made an extensive survey of available old manuscripts of Bibles.

"ostern / eostar / astarte" does NOT show up in any Bible anywhere until around the 15th century, and it isn't in English Bibles, but in German ones. and they replace everything in the whole OT with "ishtar" too. it's a result of antisemetic replacement theology, a point of view Luther is fairly well known to agree with, and who weirdly lived about the same time.

but, this word had become so entrenched in the 'christendom' of the reformation, which largely grew from these Germanic regions, that by the time the kj translation comes around that they apparently left it in there - against all honest scholarship - even though it is not found in ANY Greek or Hebrew text anywhere, ever. Pascha is ubiquitous in Greek, Pesach in Hebrew. they didn't even have the decency to put it all over the entire Bible as if, as has been erroneously claimed, it is indeed synonymous with Pesach. no, only in one place, a nod to human tradition, completely ignoring the fact that the scripture in the languages God chose for it to be recorded says no such thing.

btw did you know that the gemmatria of "cabal sowing confusion" is 1611?
Wycliffe Bible.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/Was-the-English-h8r8HCQdQBuGwsOCo2jkYA
 

Bible_Highlighter

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nope.

there was no English translation whatsoever before 'Ostern' started showing up purely in Germanic Bibles. Tyndale took his cues from Luther, who got this imaginary word from a growing tradition of deleting as much Jewishness as possible from Christianity. "Ishtar" was introduced from the Germanic tradition. it is an imaginary word, not a Biblical one. there is 0 legitimate reason for it to be in any translation.

go read the research i pointed to.
Look. I understand that the word Easter originates in a proto German language, but the word Passover was invented by Tyndale. We see Textus Receptus Bibles before the KJV use Passover and Easter interchangeably in other verses.
 
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Look. William Tyndale invented the word “Passover” and before that time, the English word “Easter” was used. That’s the point. Please search perplexity.ai or search elsewhere and it is a basic fact.

No, this came from the Book of Speculations! :ROFL:


Look. I understand that the word Easter originates in a proto German language, but the word Passover was invented by Tyndale. We see Textus Receptus Bibles before the KJV use Passover and Easter interchangeably in other verses.
More from the Book of Speculations!

The Lord used passover way way back before Tyndale was even born.

It's in the old testament so why not study that instead of the Book of Speculations? :rolleyes:
 

posthuman

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We are not on the same page.

*cough*

Wycliffe.

That should give you a clue.
Acts 12:4 Wycliffe​
And when he had caught Peter, he sent him into prison; and betook him to four quaternions of knights, to keep him, and would after pask bring him forth to the people [willing after pask to bring him forth to the people].
 

jamessb

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Yes, years ago I attended some churches that taught the false doctrines of reformed theology.

Since then I have learned to go study God's Word for myself because the false doctrines of reformed theology come from those that are educated in the religious wisdom of mankind in seminaries and bible colleges

So, it was the Spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ ) that has proven to be knowledgeable instead of those that have been educated in the religious wisdom of mankind in seminaries and bible colleges

satan uses seminaries and bible colleges to train people in the false doctrines of reformed theology.
Yeah, being educated is really a serious crime! We should all remain ignorant and follow our own ideas no matter where they may lead. Why do we even need a Lord and Master???

I have read a lot of garbage in online discussions but this "takes the cake" for being totally wrong: "satan uses seminaries and bible colleges to train people in the false doctrines of reformed theology". let's all remain ignorant and follow whatever pops into our heads! Who needs educated people anyway? Correct?

BTW, what is your level of education?
 

posthuman

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