WHO IS THE DEVIL?

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According to Jesus here is the Devil.

JOHN 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a LIAR, and the father of it.
 

NotmebutHim

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Indeed. Scripture says that Satan is:

A murderer
A liar
A deceiver
The prince of the power of the air
The wicked one
The tempter
An adversary
A roaring lion
The dragon
The serpent
Cunning or crafty
The god of this world

I might be missing a few terms, but I was brainstorming...............
 
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Indeed. Scripture says that Satan is:

A murderer
A liar
A deceiver
The prince of the power of the air
The wicked one
The tempter
An adversary
A roaring lion
The dragon
The serpent
Cunning or crafty
The god of this world

I might be missing a few terms, but I was brainstorming...............
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Anybody could share an example written in the bible regarding Devil's doing or description?
Example why the Devil became a Liar?
 

selahsays

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In Genesis, the first book of the Bible, we read about first liar from the Garden of Eden—Satan the Devil (the serpent, the dragon). Lucifer (Satan) has many names. In the book of Revelation, notice a few:

And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

- Revelation 20:2-3
 

John146

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Anybody could share an example written in the bible regarding Devil's doing or description?
Example why the Devil became a Liar?
Isaiah 14:
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Ezekiel 28:
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
 
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Is it easy to recognize the Devil?

Does Eve know that the Devil (serpent) is the one talking to her?
Or she thought it is not the Devil that is why she eat it?

GENESIS 3:6
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And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

 

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Is it easy to recognize the Devil?
Does Eve know that the Devil (serpent) is the one talking to her?
Or she thought it is not the Devil that is why she eat it?
I don't think Bible reveals if Eve knew the serpent was Devil, but Eve knew she was doing directly against what God had told them not to do.

She was deceived and fell for it.
 

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Is it easy to recognize the Devil?

Does Eve know that the Devil (serpent) is the one talking to her?
Or she thought it is not the Devil that is why she eat it?

GENESIS 3:6
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And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
He got 1/3 of the angels to go with him. So we humans on this earth where he is as its written the god of. We who are 100% sold out living obeying all Christ alone has said, all what our bothers 12 (With Paul) told us by the sweet holy spirit said and living are we? Rethink "is it easy to recognize Satan". We can call some brothers and sisters who love believe in Christ "evil, demon possessed"so forth so on. We can't even tell who is of Christ.

Adam and Eve. Did not they name all? They talked so a serpent talking was normal. There is so much not written the best we can do is speculate which is fun but unwise.
 
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Is it easy to recognize the Devil?

Does Eve know that the Devil (serpent) is the one talking to her?
Or she thought it is not the Devil that is why she eat it?

GENESIS 3:6
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And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
I think I might have been approached by the Devil 3 times. This happened about 2 years ago maybe all within the course of maybe 3 months. One time I was riding the bus and someone put their bike on the front of the bus like you can if you have a bike, set a coin down beside me (I was sitting at the front) and started talking to me in this really aggressive broken manner, it was intelligible English but the words didn't make sense though they made sense together and it was aggressive but not aggressive at me (but still aggressive at me). The person kind of looked like Bruce Willis but much shorter and didn't look like someone that should be talking like that, though I didn't really realize that until now. I've never met someone like that before in my life and I think maybe quickly after the person started talking to me I just naturally started treating the person like they were the Devil, I guess because of what I knew from the Bible. I have never done that with anyone in my entire life, or even suspected that someone was the Devil before (Edit: other than maybe one other time, while I was eating pizza, which I've written about next, but it's not like I'm walking around everyday thinking people are the Devil, I'm in my 30s and this has happened maybe twice where I've thought that about someone), but that's what happened. It's just what it was like. Also while I was eating pizza in this place downtown in the city where I live there were a bunch of people at the register that sort of seemed off and then this person came (I didn't see any of them actually come in) somehow got a free slice and sat down directly across from me though there might have been other open places to sit and started eating. I don't really know how to describe this person but I wouldn't be surprised if they were the Devil or a Devil, just by how they acted and looked. You would probably have had to seen it to get what I'm saying. The last time I was going to the variety store near where I live, walking through the parking lot and this large man (who happened to be black) out of nowhere walked up to me aggressively and said "Do you think I'm stupid!?" he might have said other things, it was like he was picking a fight with me, but not picking a fight with me. I just walked away avoiding confrontation and that was it. I'd never seen or experienced anything like that in my life before. For all I know that was an actual person, but who would ever do something like that and why? He had a Caribbean accent if I'm not mistaken so it might have just been some person irate over Canada, but still, there was no earthly reason for him to treat me like that except if he was just out of his mind over something, but yeah... I think it might have been the Devil considering the other things that were happening in my life at that point, though maybe not, along with the other people. I was also walking outside really late at night one night and I saw "someone on their bike" that pretty much looked like it was just a frame or something. It was like they were a weird skeleton or something. They were sort of in the distance, but it's like the skeleton got larger or something and was disconnected as they rode. I think it might have been a Devil. ALSO I was walking on a sidewalk near where I live and I turned and saw someone jogging directly beside me and away from me, not like beside me as if they were on the grass, but like if someone was following directly behind you on the sidewalk. This person was tall and did not look like a normal person. Maybe 5 days later I was riding a bus and saw someone on the bus that looked similar to the person I saw on the sidewalk with a baby carriage, the person was sort of looking at me menacingly and didn't really look like a normal person and was dressed unusually though it wasn't really noticeable. I think this person might have been a Devil, because of how they looked and what happened. The person was handsome in a way that wasn't really noticeable, maybe that's what angels are like. Other things have happened too. When these things happened I was seeing things and hearing voices, so I might have had a Devil and might have been approached by the Devil and other Devils. Other things have happened too.
 
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Is it easy to recognize the Devil?

Does Eve know that the Devil (serpent) is the one talking to her?
Or she thought it is not the Devil that is why she eat it?

GENESIS 3:6
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And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
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When I read this verse. I consider it as part of Jesus answered in my question "Is it easy to recognize the Devil"
Even the whole world could deceit by the Devil.

REVELATION 12:9
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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
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When I read this verse. I consider it as part of Jesus answered in my question "Is it easy to recognize the Devil"
Even the whole world could deceit by the Devil.

REVELATION 12:9
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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
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What is the standard of man when it comes to evil doing?
I listened to many preachers for what evil doings, are the different crimes committed by anybody, telling lies and having hate in the heart.

But what Jesus said about evil doings is nobody in this world knows.

Look at the example of Jesus about evil doing.

In this verse, in Man's Standard; Peter action is showing the Love to Jesus.
For Jesus it is not showing Love but a Devil Action.

MATTHEW 16:21-23
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From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
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But he turned, and said unto Peter, GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Because according to the Lord. The world was deceived by the Devil and nobody in this world knows that they are.

REVELATION 12:9
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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

JEREMIAH 17:9
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The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Nobody in this world knows the Devil Action but Jesus knows alone.

Therefore: Jesus alone could reveal who the Devil is.
 
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What is the standard of man when it comes to evil doing?
I listened to many preachers for what evil doings, are the different crimes committed by anybody, telling lies and having hate in the heart.

But what Jesus said about evil doings is nobody in this world knows.

Look at the example of Jesus about evil doing.

In this verse, in Man's Standard; Peter action is showing the Love to Jesus.
For Jesus it is not showing Love but a Devil Action.

MATTHEW 16:21-23
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From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
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But he turned, and said unto Peter, GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Because according to the Lord. The world was deceived by the Devil and nobody in this world knows that they are.

REVELATION 12:9
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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

JEREMIAH 17:9
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The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Nobody in this world knows the Devil Action but Jesus knows alone.

Therefore: Jesus alone could reveal who the Devil is.
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Let us ask Jesus with regards to Evil doing in Man's Standard and to Jesus Standard.
 
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According to Jesus here is the Devil.

JOHN 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a LIAR, and the father of it.
23But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.Matthew 16:23

*He is in us all, and we serve him when we are worldly and not following Jesus Christ teachings in and outside of the churches. He is the dust we were created from refer to: Galatians 5:16-26
 
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I think I might have been approached by the Devil 3 times. This happened about 2 years ago maybe all within the course of maybe 3 months. One time I was riding the bus and someone put their bike on the front of the bus like you can if you have a bike, set a coin down beside me (I was sitting at the front) and started talking to me in this really aggressive broken manner, it was intelligible English but the words didn't make sense though they made sense together and it was aggressive but not aggressive at me (but still aggressive at me). The person kind of looked like Bruce Willis but much shorter and didn't look like someone that should be talking like that, though I didn't really realize that until now. I've never met someone like that before in my life and I think maybe quickly after the person started talking to me I just naturally started treating the person like they were the Devil, I guess because of what I knew from the Bible. I have never done that with anyone in my entire life, or even suspected that someone was the Devil before (Edit: other than maybe one other time, while I was eating pizza, which I've written about next, but it's not like I'm walking around everyday thinking people are the Devil, I'm in my 30s and this has happened maybe twice where I've thought that about someone), but that's what happened. It's just what it was like. Also while I was eating pizza in this place downtown in the city where I live there were a bunch of people at the register that sort of seemed off and then this person came (I didn't see any of them actually come in) somehow got a free slice and sat down directly across from me though there might have been other open places to sit and started eating. I don't really know how to describe this person but I wouldn't be surprised if they were the Devil or a Devil, just by how they acted and looked. You would probably have had to seen it to get what I'm saying. The last time I was going to the variety store near where I live, walking through the parking lot and this large man (who happened to be black) out of nowhere walked up to me aggressively and said "Do you think I'm stupid!?" he might have said other things, it was like he was picking a fight with me, but not picking a fight with me. I just walked away avoiding confrontation and that was it. I'd never seen or experienced anything like that in my life before. For all I know that was an actual person, but who would ever do something like that and why? He had a Caribbean accent if I'm not mistaken so it might have just been some person irate over Canada, but still, there was no earthly reason for him to treat me like that except if he was just out of his mind over something, but yeah... I think it might have been the Devil considering the other things that were happening in my life at that point, though maybe not, along with the other people. I was also walking outside really late at night one night and I saw "someone on their bike" that pretty much looked like it was just a frame or something. It was like they were a weird skeleton or something. They were sort of in the distance, but it's like the skeleton got larger or something and was disconnected as they rode. I think it might have been a Devil. ALSO I was walking on a sidewalk near where I live and I turned and saw someone jogging directly beside me and away from me, not like beside me as if they were on the grass, but like if someone was following directly behind you on the sidewalk. This person was tall and did not look like a normal person. Maybe 5 days later I was riding a bus and saw someone on the bus that looked similar to the person I saw on the sidewalk with a baby carriage, the person was sort of looking at me menacingly and didn't really look like a normal person and was dressed unusually though it wasn't really noticeable. I think this person might have been a Devil, because of how they looked and what happened. The person was handsome in a way that wasn't really noticeable, maybe that's what angels are like. Other things have happened too. When these things happened I was seeing things and hearing voices, so I might have had a Devil and might have been approached by the Devil and other Devils. Other things have happened too.
I totally understand how you feel.Because I've met people like that.I was scalded by boiling water And more serious.Shortly after that,I met a stranger and talked to me:You are like a dead pig can not feeling the boiling water.The stranger spoke in a half-joking, half-mocking tone.This sentence is a slang term here.People may use this sentence some times for joke.
This makes me feel embarrassed and a little angry.But I can't really be angry with that stranger.Because I don't have any reason do it.It's like what he just said by accident doesn't mean that he really knows that I was scalded by boiling water.
But his tone is very uncomfortable to me.

It's hard to describe what happened to us as clearly to others.Because others May think that we may be overly sensitive.

My scald is inside my clothes.It is invisible from the outside.
 

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According to Jesus here is the Devil.

JOHN 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a LIAR, and the father of it.
Ok yes this was spoken it is the spirit that that hides in the truth but what will do about it?if you see and know what are you willing to do to chang it? if you post this what are wanting from it? do want to bee used to speak his heart are you posting just to prove what you believe?

I am not saying this yo contradict you nut rather try to mske you sit on the truth wgat you said is turth but there are kayers many eill not hear you they will zss ckrst what they believe to be truth

So a;; I ask is that you sit with him on this soak it in
 
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Let us ask Jesus with regards to Evil doing in Man's Standard and to Jesus Standard.
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Now it begins for me to understand.
Since only God could reveal who the Devil is, that is why nobody in this world can determine the Devil Action even the chosen of God.

Pertaining in Devil Action, I read this verse about Uzzah.

Uzzah doesn't want the Ark of God be ruined when it falls in the ground.
To a man standard what Uzzah did is appropriate.
In this circumstances Uzzah did his best move to make God happy.
But for God this is not how to make him happy, because it is a Devil Action. And God killed Uzzah.

2 SAMUEL 6:6-7
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And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.
7 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.

Because of this, God tells the Truth how the Devil deceived the whole world with the help of his Angels.

REVELATION 12:9
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And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

People taught that it is not the Devil but the Christ.
Because the Devil is disguising as the Lord Jesus.

REVELATION 13:11-15
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And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.






 

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He got 1/3 of the angels to go with him.

The bible doesn't actually say this. Satan does have his own angels, but we are not told how many of them fell from God's total amount.
 

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Isaiah 14:
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Ezekiel 28:
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭10:18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:3-4, 7-9, 12, 17‬ ‭

“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬