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Why are you trying to deceive the flock about zone.

She clearly responded to the highlighted words which were 'give it up'.
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Yes she did, and what was I asking her to give up? Her God complex, and insistence on opposing His word. Her response was ''no, not going to happen''

If you want to follow Zone instead of Jesus go ahead, but I will not be on that band wagon.
 
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Jesus main preaching was that of repentance. Urging someone to repent is not condemnation.
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what in the Name of God are you doing HERE urging repentence?

GO OUT INTO THE WORLD AND FULFILL THE GREAT COMMISSION.

wait...no don't.

your Dominionist crew means literally taking a Kingdom by force & violence...satan's game.

Barrabbas
 
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Either post were I did this or admit you are a liar, and false accuser
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you posted all about how centering prayer brings one into a place of silence where THEY HEAR FROM GOD.

ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS know centering prayer is demonic and forbidden occult activity...EASTERN panentheism.

you're so weak you won't even stand for what you really believe.

DID YOU KNOW GOD HATES THAT STUFF? why didn't you state that clearly? why didnt you condemn it when asked about it?

because you are FOR it...until the truth of it comes out. then you back out and deny you ever meant it. the worst kind of liar i can think of.
 
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Because you refuse to believe God doesnt mean the teaching is sloppy, it just means your heart is hard
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I dont believe what? out with it...use scripture
 
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zone said:
what in the Name of God are you doing HERE urging repentence?

GO OUT INTO THE WORLD AND FULFILL THE GREAT COMMISSION.
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You need to repent Zone, but like the pharisees you are too blind to even see it.
 
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4runner said:
Yes she did, and what was I asking her to give up? Her God complex, and insistence on opposing His word. Her response was ''no, not going to happen''

If you want to follow Zone instead of Jesus go ahead, but I will not be on that band wagon.
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if you tried to get on my "bandwagon" without repenting, i'd throw you off on your head.
 
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Originally Posted by 4runner

Because you refuse to believe God doesnt mean the teaching is sloppy, it just means your heart is hard
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Abiding said:
I dont believe what? out with it...use scripture
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Apparently you do not believe that God can do all things. #2 You do not believe the words of Christ when He says those who believe are able to have all things done through them, and lastly you do not believe that God can do exceeding, abundantly more than we can ask or think through the Holy Spirit power that works in us.

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Some will tell you it is impossible to live a life of pure obedience to God without ever stumbling or sinning. However Jesus said though it may be impossible for men, all things are possible for God. Moreover He said that to us who believe all things are possible. Finally Paul wrote that God is not only able to do what we believe or think He can, but He can do exceedingly, abundantly more than we could ever even imagine. And how does God accomplish this? Though the Holy Spirit power that is already dwelling in us.
Matthew 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

Ephesians 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
So if Jesus says we can, and Zone you mom, your pastor or anyone else says you can who are you going to believe Zone, or Jesus. Me? I believe Jesus
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Abiding said:
Matt 19:26 is talking about a rich man seeing his need for a saviour

Mark 9:23 is about believing God governs all things

Eph 3:20 Is to recognize the Holyspirit does the work in us.
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This is how this conversation goes. I say ''God says'', and you say, but God really meant something else''
 
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4runner said:
Yes she did, and what was I asking her to give up? Her God complex, and insistence on opposing His word. Her response was ''no, not going to happen''

If you want to follow Zone instead of Jesus go ahead, but I will not be on that band wagon.
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Be more specific 4runner opposing what word. Lay it out. or close your mouth.
 
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Apparently you do not believe that God can do all things. #2 You do not believe the words of Christ when He says those who believe are able to have all things done through them, and lastly you do not believe that God can do exceeding, abundantly more than we can ask or think through the Holy Spirit power that works in us.
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Your a liar..put the scripture back in its context and quit using it deceitfully to
push your false teachings. I already corrected you for that.

4runner your a liar and a slanderer. Period. You show no proof for what you say
because there isnt any.
 
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Be more specific 4runner opposing what word. Lay it out. or close your mouth.
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She opposes everything the Lord says, but in this particular instance she was denying the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
 
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Abiding said:
Your a liar..put the scripture back in its context and quit using it deceitfully to
push your false teachings. I already corrected you for that.

4runner your a liar and a slanderer. Period. You show no proof for what you say
because there isnt any.
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Actually if you look up about to post I did give the context for your denial of the truth. So who is the slanderer now?
 
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4runner said:
Apparently you do not believe that God can do all things. #2 You do not believe the words of Christ when He says those who believe are able to have all things done through them, and lastly you do not believe that God can do exceeding, abundantly more than we can ask or think through the Holy Spirit power that works in us.


This is how this conversation goes. I say ''God says'', and you say, but God really meant something else''
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Exactly, thats how it goes. All false teachers remove verses and use them randomly. And
I like to put them back so i can see the intent of the Holyspirit. Sorry thats how i roll :)
 
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Exactly, thats how it goes. All false teachers remove verses and use them randomly. And
I like to put them back so i can see the intent of the Holyspirit. Sorry thats how i roll :)
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You call me a liar, and slanderer, yet you admit to what I said?????????

Do you or do you not believe God can #1 do all thing, #2 use men that believe Him to do it, and ## do more than we can ask or think by the power that works is us?

Yes or no. No dodge games
 
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Actually if you look up about to post I did give the context for your denial of the truth. So who is the slanderer now?
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show the evidence. 4runner..do more than throw words around
 
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Abiding said:
show the evidence. 4runner..do more than throw words around
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I gave thre post to where I showed what God says, and then I gave the post of you treying to explain it away. How much more evidence do you need?


Do you or do you not believe God can #1 do all thing, #2 use men that believe Him to do it, and ## do more than we can ask or think by the power that works is us?

Yes or no. No dodge games
 
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I have asks at least 3 other times that those that do not want to have an edifying conversation, but come only to throw mud and cause division, not post in here, so those that do want to discuss scripture can.

However it seem like you people (you know who you are) do not respect anyone, not even yourselves, and will happily display your disrespect, by continue to argue and cause disruption.

To be honest I feel sorry for you. The only thing worse than being lost is being lost and not realizing it.
 
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I will ask one more time that those that want to have a biblical discussion, and ask me about my beliefs or have any questions ask away, but those that want to argue, and spew venom take it to another thread. Please, and thank you.
 
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4runner said:
I will ask one more time that those that want to have a biblical discussion, and ask me about my beliefs or have any questions ask away, but those that want to argue, and spew venom take it to another thread. Please, and thank you.
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i paid respect to you up until
today, seeing that you ask for it but dont give it.
Yes I believe God is able to do as He pleases as ive told you before, but not as you please.
 
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Abiding said:
i paid respect to you up until
today, seeing that you ask for it but dont give it.
Yes I believe God is able to do as He pleases as ive told you before, but not as you please.
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But Paul say He is able to do all we can ask or think. Does that not include keeping us from sin?

It is my desire to not sin, and Psalms say if I delight myself in the Lord He will give me the desire of my heart. do you not believe God is able to keep us from sin?
 
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Abiding said:
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Yes I believe God is able to do as He pleases as ive told you before, but not as you please.
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Do you not think it would please God to keep me from sinning?

Jude:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from stumbling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
 
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