Ball Earth conundrums
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Yes, Romans34, I've already read your posts (#1-6). Nothing you wrote, no verse you quote, reasons the earth is flat.
You also engage in faulty speculation. You suggest scripture indicates the water of The Flood came from 'the waters above the firmament', that is, the waters separating the 2nd heaven and the 3rd heaven. The Genisis Flood' scripture does not indicate that. It reads it came from the heavens and underground waters of the earth. Rain comes from the 1st heaven. You're engaging in a bizarre contortion of speculation declaring the rain came from 'the waters above the firmament', rather than the plain and obvious reading of the 1st heaven: the sky.
Speaking of the Bible, this video was made for you (and @GaryA and @Moses_Young). As I read you posts, please prayerfully review this presentation from Answers in Genisis fellow Dr. Danny Faulkner (has degrees in physics, astronomy, taught at USCL) and discusses the verses in the Bible that are often cited by many Flat Earthers. The Biblical review is time stamp 27:35 to 45:17. His specialty is the Ark/Flood. Does The Bible Describe the Earth as Flat? (youtube.com)
Of course, I recommend then watching the rest (45:17 to end) as Danny goes into his own personal observations and photos of the night sky. And then I recommend watching the full presentation (0 to 27:35). With your eyes open, in prayerful meditation, as Paul says, come let us reason together, what do you say of the Biblical review (27:35 to 45:17)?
You also engage in faulty speculation. You suggest scripture indicates the water of The Flood came from 'the waters above the firmament', that is, the waters separating the 2nd heaven and the 3rd heaven. The Genisis Flood' scripture does not indicate that. It reads it came from the heavens and underground waters of the earth. Rain comes from the 1st heaven. You're engaging in a bizarre contortion of speculation declaring the rain came from 'the waters above the firmament', rather than the plain and obvious reading of the 1st heaven: the sky.
Speaking of the Bible, this video was made for you (and @GaryA and @Moses_Young). As I read you posts, please prayerfully review this presentation from Answers in Genisis fellow Dr. Danny Faulkner (has degrees in physics, astronomy, taught at USCL) and discusses the verses in the Bible that are often cited by many Flat Earthers. The Biblical review is time stamp 27:35 to 45:17. His specialty is the Ark/Flood. Does The Bible Describe the Earth as Flat? (youtube.com)
Of course, I recommend then watching the rest (45:17 to end) as Danny goes into his own personal observations and photos of the night sky. And then I recommend watching the full presentation (0 to 27:35). With your eyes open, in prayerful meditation, as Paul says, come let us reason together, what do you say of the Biblical review (27:35 to 45:17)?
Meh, that's faker man.
It's not even a real UFO or nithin
Don't you have some real uf and O footage you can post?
It's not even a real UFO or nithin
Don't you have some real uf and O footage you can post?
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I went back to study the occult that's popular now in USA when I got to Leviticus 19 again. A lot of people get sucked into the new age and the same demonic practices. Many attribute them to God because they have fallen deceptive spirits with them. Some are more difficult to discern, but they normally have similar concepts and patterns.
They start children in the toy department with things like the magic 8 ball and magical thinking from cartoons.
They start children in the toy department with things like the magic 8 ball and magical thinking from cartoons.
This is from those who actually promote techniques like hypnosis. They recognize and embrace these demonic practices however see them as something different. Many Christians embrace some of these practices, yet want to attribute the practices to something else as well.
Ie. Earlier I was listening to a class where the doctor mentioned meditation. He wasn't talking about meditating upon God's Word. He claims to be saved and an evangelical. Very intelligent, but there are many intelligent people who are deceived.
(Source: Encyclopedia of New Age Beliefs)
“Hypnosis is a deliberate-induced condition of deep mental relaxation, passivity, or trance in which a person becomes highly suggestible with a state of consciousness capable of dramatic manipulation. In various forms, hypnotism can be found in every culture in every age. Hypnosis has historically been considered an altered state of consciousness, often called a ‘trance.’ The term itself comes from Hypnos, the Greek god of sleep. The world cannot say with certainty what hypnosis is nor exactly how it works, but somehow it does. Hypnosis in therapy seeks to deal with current problems by employing hypnotic states to change behavior. In New Age & occult applications, hypnosis is used for a wide variety of psychic purposes, including developing ‘human potential’ and uncovering ‘past lives’ for ‘therapeutic’ and occult purposes. A wide variety of self, or personal growth seminars instruct people in the techniques of self-hypnosis to achieve their desired goals. It has been claimed to develop psychic abilities, calm hyperactive children, lose weight, be better at sports, stop smoking, etc. Historically, it is typically associated with the occultists or psychics, the one who exercises power over things or persons, such as the shaman, magician, witch doctor, medium, or guru. Hypnosis has been known to produce a variety of occult phenomena. For example, ‘past-life’ experiences, multiple personalities, speaking in unknown languages, automatic writing, seizures, spirit possession, astral projection, etc. The (demonic) spirits themselves endorse the use of hypnosis because it frequently serves their purpose to possess or influence individuals. Cases of spirit possession resulting from hypnosis have occurred. Many of the best-known mediums of the 19th century first started their careers as hypnotic subjects. The various hypnotic methods lie within the biblically prohibited practices of ‘charming,’ ‘enchanting,’ and general magic.”
Ie. Earlier I was listening to a class where the doctor mentioned meditation. He wasn't talking about meditating upon God's Word. He claims to be saved and an evangelical. Very intelligent, but there are many intelligent people who are deceived.
(Source: Encyclopedia of New Age Beliefs)
“Hypnosis is a deliberate-induced condition of deep mental relaxation, passivity, or trance in which a person becomes highly suggestible with a state of consciousness capable of dramatic manipulation. In various forms, hypnotism can be found in every culture in every age. Hypnosis has historically been considered an altered state of consciousness, often called a ‘trance.’ The term itself comes from Hypnos, the Greek god of sleep. The world cannot say with certainty what hypnosis is nor exactly how it works, but somehow it does. Hypnosis in therapy seeks to deal with current problems by employing hypnotic states to change behavior. In New Age & occult applications, hypnosis is used for a wide variety of psychic purposes, including developing ‘human potential’ and uncovering ‘past lives’ for ‘therapeutic’ and occult purposes. A wide variety of self, or personal growth seminars instruct people in the techniques of self-hypnosis to achieve their desired goals. It has been claimed to develop psychic abilities, calm hyperactive children, lose weight, be better at sports, stop smoking, etc. Historically, it is typically associated with the occultists or psychics, the one who exercises power over things or persons, such as the shaman, magician, witch doctor, medium, or guru. Hypnosis has been known to produce a variety of occult phenomena. For example, ‘past-life’ experiences, multiple personalities, speaking in unknown languages, automatic writing, seizures, spirit possession, astral projection, etc. The (demonic) spirits themselves endorse the use of hypnosis because it frequently serves their purpose to possess or influence individuals. Cases of spirit possession resulting from hypnosis have occurred. Many of the best-known mediums of the 19th century first started their careers as hypnotic subjects. The various hypnotic methods lie within the biblically prohibited practices of ‘charming,’ ‘enchanting,’ and general magic.”
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