Death curses the law

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Thunderrr-mental

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Sipsey said:
God did.
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God did what ?

I'm of to bed now,

I would be careful how you answer this question.

If was you I would state why you may be right and how you could be wrong.

But only after you have searched.

I think I'll leave ye with an opening 🙂

 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
I do know the answer and gave it.
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Good morning 🙂 I'm still waiting for ye to give the main objectives of the law.

I'm asking ye to provide knowledge of the law, and as of this morning I'm asking you to provide, not one, not two not 3, but 4 main objectives of the law.

Also as of this morning and as of yesterday I have been waiting 24 hours.


Heres a nice progressing song 🙂

 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Good morning 🙂 I'm still waiting for ye to give the main objectives of the law.

I'm asking ye to provide knowledge of the law, and as of this morning I'm asking you to provide, not one, not two not 3, but 4 main objectives of the law.

Also as of this morning and as of yesterday I have been waiting 24 hours.


Heres a nice progressing song 🙂

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There is a very Pacific reason I'm asking this question above. 🙂
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Good morning 🙂 I'm still waiting for ye to give the main objectives of the law.

I'm asking ye to provide knowledge of the law, and as of this morning I'm asking you to provide, not one, not two not 3, but 4 main objectives of the law.

Also as of this morning and as of yesterday I have been waiting 24 hours.


Heres a nice progressing song 🙂

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. Does anyone know why anyone would dislike the above the above post


It's a reasonable request

Do you think it's because Calvinism thinks there not obliged to know the law


As our friend here @Dino246 dislikes the above post look


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posthuman

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Thunderrr-mental said:
the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.

What is the reason man became like God in the above verse 😊😊😊
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See the order of events immediately preceding it:

  • God proclaims the gospel to them
  • in response, Adam gives his wife a new name, saying, though she is dead she will live
  • God sheds blood and covers them
  • God says BEHOLD!! Adam has become like one of us

Where else in the Bible do we see someone declaring the dead to have life, and giving them a new name and new robes?

to answer your question Adam received salvation because of his faith, believing in his heart and confessing it with his mouth.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Good morning 🙂 I'm still waiting for ye to give the main objectives of the law.

I'm asking ye to provide knowledge of the law, and as of this morning I'm asking you to provide, not one, not two not 3, but 4 main objectives of the law.

Also as of this morning and as of yesterday I have been waiting 24 hours.


Heres a nice progressing song 🙂

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I think you want me to break the Law down so you will finally know what it is all about. I was raised and taught in it. It's you who should be telling me what the Law is about. Not the other way around.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
I think you want me to break the Law down so you will finally know what it is all about. I was raised and taught in it. It's you who should be telling me what the Law is about. Not the other way around.
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can you provide 4 main objectives of the law, since you say you know the law.


On a separate matter I have a Pacific reason for asking this question 🙂


Stroll on 🙂
 
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posthuman said:
See the order of events immediately preceding it:

  • God proclaims the gospel to them
  • in response, Adam gives his wife a new name, saying, though she is dead she will live
  • God sheds blood and covers them
  • God says BEHOLD!! Adam has become like one of us

Where else in the Bible do we see someone declaring the dead to have life, and giving them a new name and new robes?

to answer your question Adam received salvation because of his faith, believing in his heart and confessing it with his mouth.
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the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.

What is the reason man became like God in the above verse 😊😊😊

On a separate matter I have a Pacific reason for asking this.
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
can you provide 4 main objectives of the law, since you say you know the law.


On a separate matter I have a Pacific reason for asking this question 🙂


Stroll on 🙂
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The Law revealed
1. the inability of humans to fulfill it
2. what a person is based upon their sinful ways
3. the need for God's Mercy
4. pointed us to how perfect God is

These are simplistic and basic answers. I could elaborate but do not feel the need to.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
The Law revealed
1. the inability of humans to fulfill it
2. what a person is based upon their sinful ways
3. the need for God's Mercy
4. pointed us to how perfect God is

These are simplistic and basic answers. I could elaborate but do not feel the need to.
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These are reasons for one objective only which is, number 1 identifies why the law is given but not in full. As you've said in the bases of existing sin is it given and not including preventing sin.


First reason you quote number 1

An objective of the law is not because someone inability to fulfill it.

2 the objective of the law is to prevent sin. You missed that part out

3 The objective of the is law not given to establish God's mercy. Why well God does not have to prove his mercy

4 the objective of the law is not to establish how perfect God is. Why well God does not have to prove how perfect he is.


Seeing as your unable to provide the main four objectives of the law

Here they are.


1 for justice

2 for order and stability.

3 for protection of rights and liberties.

So now the Pacifica reason


Why is an objective of the law for protection of rights and liberties
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
These are reasons for one objective only which is, number 1 identifies why the law is given but not in full. As you've said in the bases of existing sin is it given and not including preventing sin.


First reason you quote number 1

An objective of the law is not because someone inability to fulfill it.

2 the objective of the law is to prevent sin. You missed that part out

3 The objective of the is law not given to establish God's mercy. Why well God does not have to prove his mercy

4 the objective of the law is not to establish how perfect God is. Why well God does not have to prove how perfect he is.


Seeing as your unable to provide the main four objectives of the law

Here they are.


1 for justice

2 for order and stability.

3 for protection of rights and liberties.

So now the Pacifica reason


Why is an objective of the law for protection of rights and liberties
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You completely missed everything I listed.
The Law is a self examination.
It's about understanding who and what a person is to realize how much they need God.
Like I said, you don't know much about it.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
You completely missed everything I listed.
The Law is a self examination.
It's about understanding who and what a person is to realize how much they need God.
Like I said, you don't know much about it.
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The law is an examination for those willing to learn it

But this not a main an objective of the law.

Because not everyone can learn it's full to begin with.

The main objective of the law is to protect innocence, so now I'm asking why did God want to protect innocence
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
You completely missed everything I listed.
The Law is a self examination.
It's about understanding who and what a person is to realize how much they need God.
Like I said, you don't know much about it.
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so here is one of many questions regarding protection of innocence.

Now this is in the bible.
Righteousness protects the innocent; wickedness is the downfall of sinners.


Now what I need you to examine is what protects the sinners
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
so here is one of many questions regarding protection of innocence.

Now this is in the bible.
Righteousness protects the innocent; wickedness is the downfall of sinners.


Now what I need you to examine is what protects the sinners
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There's only 1 time in every persons life where they are innocent before being saved. Jesus said we must believe what He claims He is. From birth until possibly the age of 4 or 5 you will not understand what this means. And no one can make a decision on believing in Jesus until they are able to understand what that means. But once a person reaches the age where they understand, they become accountable.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
There's only 1 time in every persons life where they are innocent before being saved. Jesus said we must believe what He claims He is. From birth until possibly the age of 4 or 5 you will not understand what this means. And no one can make a decision on believing in Jesus until they are able to understand what that means. But once a person reaches the age where they understand, they become accountable.
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Children are still sinners so why are they being protected by law.

Well the obvious answer is because there innocent.

So now lets take the state into mind. They are still born in a fallen state like Adam and eve became but yet there innocent.

So why did God protect Adam and eve with the law
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.

What is the reason man became like God in the above verse 😊😊😊

On a separate matter I have a Pacific reason for asking this.
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The text says 'ha-Adam' has become like one of us.

why is Eve not included?

it was Satan, not God, who told Woman she would become like God by eating of the forbidden tree.
do you believe he was telling the truth?
or deceiving her?
is it so, that committing sin makes a person like God?

Genesis 3 isn't simple.
who is "us"?
what "good"?
what "evil"?
when has Satan ever told the truth?
 
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posthuman said:
The text says 'ha-Adam' has become like one of us.

why is Eve not included?

it was Satan, not God, who told Woman she would become like God by eating of the forbidden tree.
do you believe he was telling the truth?
or deceiving her?
is it so, that committing sin makes a person like God?

Genesis 3 isn't simple.
who is "us"?
what "good"?
what "evil"?
when has Satan ever told the truth?
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just answer the question will you.

LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil.

Why did the man become like God
 
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Thunderrr-mental said:
Children are still sinners so why are they being protected by law.

Well the obvious answer is because there innocent.

So now lets take the state into mind. They are still born in a fallen state like Adam and eve became but yet there innocent.

So why did God protect Adam and eve with the law
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The children I speak about do not understand why someone should believe in Jesus or not. There's no accountability until one is of age to know.
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
The children I speak about do not understand why someone should believe in Jesus or not. There's no accountability until one is of age to know.
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. 😊 I like this.

Good ok, now why did the law protect two sinners Adam and eve.

It's linked to one of the main objectives of the law I provided for you.
 
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