What image and what likeness πŸ€”

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Well God said let us make man in our image, then he said let us make man in our likeness.

Firstly what part of God is created from the dust.

Is there any resemblance there and is there any likeness there.

Then God formed man from the dust or the earth, either way there both used in the same expression.

Firstly when man made Adam from the earth was he alive at this point πŸ€”

Then God breathed life into to man and scripture says he became a living soul.

Does God say he breathed a living soul into man from else where πŸ€”.

It sounds like he saying man became a living soul.

Would this indicate that the flesh is also a soul, as in the parts of the flesh you don't see like the conscience of the mind.

Then scripture says man died a spiritual death.

Does this mean mans conscience was made spiritualy alive before the fall.
 
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Another very important question that may have been overlooked is.

In the beginning God said let us make man in our image.

So in the beginning he did just that.


Now after that God said and now man has become like us.

Well if you look at this sentiment, this is not how God created us, so what's the difference here πŸ€”

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likeness /= dust
Likeness = mind
 
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likeness /= dust
Likeness = mind/ Holy spirit
 
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likeness /= dust
Likeness = mind/ Holy spirit
so what likeness did he put in Mans human nature.

Not his spiritual nature that died but mans human nature that lived on thanks

Stroll on cherry blossom πŸ™‚


 
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so what likeness did he put in Mans human nature.

Not his spiritual nature that died but mans human nature that lived on thanks

Stroll on cherry blossom πŸ™‚


Because the devil destroyed the normal mode of this plan.That's why we need Jesus Christ to get this process back on track.

Jesus Christ is the tree of life, Jesus is the God, there is no other God before him, but other gods after him.
 

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Then scripture says man died a spiritual death.

● Gen 2:15-17 . .Yahweh commanded the man, saying: Of every tree of the
garden you are free to eat; but as for the tree of knowledge of good and
bad, you must not eat of it; for in the day you eat of it, you shall die.

The first thing to point out is that in order for his maker's warning to
resonate in the man's thinking; it had to be related to death as he
understood death in his own day rather than death as modern Sunday
school classes construe it in their day. In other words: the man's concept of
death was primitive, i.e. normal and natural rather than allegorical, spiritual,
and/or philosophical.

As far as can be known from scripture, mankind is the only specie that God
created in His own image, viz: a creature blessed with perpetual youth. The
animal kingdom was given nothing like it.

That being the case, then I think it's safe to assume that death was common
all around the man by means of vegetation, birds, bugs, and beasts so that
it wasn't a strange new word in his vocabulary; i.e. God didn't have to take a
moment and define death for the man seeing as how it was doubtless a
common occurrence in his everyday life.

So I think we can be reasonably confident that the man was up to speed on
at least the natural aspects of death and fully understood that if he went
ahead and tasted the forbidden fruit that his body would lose its perpetual
youth and end up drying in the sun like roadkill; so to speak.

In other words; had the man not eaten of the forbidden tree, he would've
remained in perfect health but the very day that he tasted its fruit, his body
became infected with mortality, i.e. he lost perpetual youth and began to
age; a condition easily remedied by the tree of life but alas, the man was
denied access to it.

As we all know: the aging process is a lingering, walking death rather than
sudden death, i.e. mortality is slow, but very relentless-- it feels neither pain
nor pity, nor remorse nor fear; it cannot be reasoned with nor can it be
bargained with, and it absolutely will not stop-- ever! --until our body is so
broken down that it cannot continue.

"A voice said: Shout! I asked: What should I shout? Shout that people are
like the grass that dies away. Their beauty fades as quickly as the beauty of
flowers in a field. The grass withers, and the flowers fade beneath the breath
of The Lord. And so it is with people. The grass withers, and the flowers
fade." (Isa 40:6-8)
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Seeds grow in the soil/dust.We are all like seeds that need to grow in the dust first.Jesus Christ is the water that irrigates the land.Since you believe that God created and designed all this.So everything works together.Only in this way can you understand comprehensively.
 
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Seeds grow in the soil/dust.We are all like seeds that need to grow in the dust first.Jesus Christ is the water that irrigates the land.Since you believe that God created and designed all this.So everything works together.Only in this way can you understand comprehensively.
so what likeness did God create mans human nature in. 😊
 
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so what likeness did God create mans human nature in. 😊
Like a seed, it absorbs any surrounding nutrients.Even if this nutrition comes from Satan.Seeds can't tell whether these nutrients are beneficial or toxic.Just like sheep can't protect themselves without shepherd.
 
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Like a seed, it absorbs any surrounding nutrients.Even if this nutrition comes from Satan.Seeds can't tell whether these nutrients are beneficial or toxic.Just like sheep can't protect themselves without shepherd.
can a seed do that without any soil to tell what is beneficial.

What your describing is what the human nature develops after it's created.

What I'm asking is what nature and likeness was human nature created in.
 
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can a seed do that without any soil to tell what is beneficial.

What your describing is what the human nature develops after it's created.

What I'm asking is what nature and likeness was human nature created in.
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not understanding here,

But here's an inclination of what mans human nature was capable off before the flood.

Noah did everything just as God commanded him.
 

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In the beginning God said let us make man in our image. So in the beginning he did just that.
Now after that God said and now man has become like us. Well if you look at this sentiment, this
is not how God created us, so what's the difference here?

In a nutshell; the man became independent to the extent that he began
defining his own rules relative to justice, equity, morals, and scruples, i.e.
the man took it upon himself to become a sovereign deity; which is
interesting because the Serpent predicted that very thing would happen
should they taste the
forbidden fruit. (Gen 3:5)

That would've been okay except a genuine deity is immune to death. Where
is Adam today? Well; he died (Gen 5:5) so I think we can safely assume
that his home-made brand of divinity was a cheap imitation of the real
McCoy.
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not understanding here,

But here's an inclination of what mans human nature was capable off before the flood.

Noah did everything just as God commanded him.
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Man has created a silicon-based creature Can learn and think.This is nature of God.
 
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Man has created a silicon-based creature Can learn and think.This is nature of God.
ok I think I'm understanding you now.

Are you saying when you create an artificial robot and put your intelligence into it,

all tho the robot is artificial it still has your intelligence inside it
 
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ok I think I'm understanding you now.

Are you saying when you create an artificial robot and put your intelligence into it,

all tho the robot is artificial it still has your intelligence inside it
Usually, the knowledge that human beings learn from this world comes from God.People always like to say that they have created new technology,But in fact, human beings only discovered the knowledge of God.

But when humans create a silicon-based creature that can think and learn,This ability is nature of God.

Because we are like God who created us.Humans created silicon-based life.And humans also like to build in their own image.

What image and what likeness?
 
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In a nutshell; the man became independent to the extent that he began
defining his own rules relative to justice, equity, morals, and scruples, i.e.
the man took it upon himself to become a sovereign deity; which is
interesting because the Serpent predicted that very thing would happen
should they taste the
forbidden fruit. (Gen 3:5)

That would've been okay except a genuine deity is immune to death. Where
is Adam today? Well; he died (Gen 5:5) so I think we can safely assume
that his home-made brand of divinity was a cheap imitation of the real
McCoy.
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Was the serpent lucky with it's prediction, or did it know by other means.

which way do you go with that.

as remembrance of scripture tells that God tempts nobody.

so either the serpent was lucky with it's prediction or it knew by another means.

it would seem plausible it knew because the serpent ate of the tree first,

I have understating to what your saying, in regards to human nature being a cheap imitation to the real mcoy.

But how cheap. seeing as it's able to resist the devil.