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Cameron143

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“I believe salvation isn't so much when men approach God, but occurs when God approaches men. “


“and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; ( these are things he ore determined towards man )

that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: “( that’s something we’re called to do he’s never beyond our reach but some won’t listen to what he’s saying to then calling then to do they won’t come into the light of his word

they stand back and think “ if I listen to what Gods saying I know it will cause me to feel guilty for things I enjoy “

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:19-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Ultimately God speaks to a man and man either hears his word and believes it or waits for a better sounding philosophy and follows after that . Whether come not to or philosophy everyone has some form of faith they walk in


But “ Back in MY day we walked up hill both ways , no shoes , in a blizzard when it was ninety degrees ….now days the youngins ’ think getting baptized is a “work of the law and labor of self saving efforts without God or some man made ritual “ lol so idk I think the world and the church ideologies has changed alot from my day brother

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:27-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is Gods approach to everyone the same every creature and also his mandate to them

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That statment really encompasses and summarizes the fate of all of creation.


“and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; that they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:


….And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:26-27, 30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Everyone talks about salvation but the Bible is talking about what Jesus just said he preached eternal salvation to those who believed him. It’s his judgements we all face brother

anyways brother your always appreciated in Jesus
We differ on what the estate of fallen man is. I believe the Bible speaks far more disparagingly of man than you.
 

Blade

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You pray “Jesus, forgive me of my sins. Come into my life and save me. I believe that You died on the cross for me and I want you to be Lord of my life. I surrender my life to you Jesus right now. I receive you. Thank you for saving me.”

If you have prayed this prayer please let us know. It’s important to find a church to go to and tell the pastor what you gave done. If you can’t, then write this prayer out and sign it and date it and save it. It’s important to follow up with water baptism as a symbol of what you’ve done.

Here’s some scripture references
Roman’s 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9-10, 13.
Revelation 3:20.
You know what I saw here Burn1986.. I thought .. yeah so simple we get caught up and entangled with silly doctrines and what not that do not touch salvation. I always say.. if you get lost.. just go back the beginning. This is it with John 3:16-17

We forget we cannot do not save anyone. Our personal belief on just what "exactly" one is to say, pray .. yeah GOD does not care about that. Its that person He woos them. I like this about a man woos "gives her a lot of attention in an attempt to persuade her to marry him". So one can just call on His name and be saved/delivered. Just awful huh that we get no say here. :)

A word comes to mind reading the posts legalistic. lol not a word I ever say nor use interesting.
 

Nehemiah6

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Just think of all the people Paul did not baptise .You claim all those people are not saved after God baptised them.
These are two very stupid responses in trying to defend yourself.

(1) Paul did baptize some as he has said, and he and Silas did baptize the Philippian jailer and his household. We do not know the total number (including this group) and it does not matter. But no one should assume that Paul baptized absolutely no one.

(2) Of course Christ did not send Paul to baptize but to preach the Gospel. That did not mean that the ones saved through his ministry did not get baptized IMMEDIATELY by others. Either Paul's companions, or other Christians in those locations did the baptizing.

Why do you trust your own works more than God?[/QUOTE] This not only a stupid remark but also insulting. Nowhere in this discussion has myself or anyone said anything about "trusting in our own works". That is not even relevant, since this is not a discussion of works vs grace. So you actually owe me an apology.

There is no need to try and defend your faulty beliefs with all kinds of responses. It proves nothing. And an objective and well-versed reader will see that.
 
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These are two very stupid responses in trying to defend yourself.

(1) Paul did baptize some as he has said, and he and Silas did baptize the Philippian jailer and his household. We do not know the total number (including this group) and it does not matter. But no one should assume that Paul baptized absolutely no one.

(2) Of course Christ did not send Paul to baptize but to preach the Gospel. That did not mean that the ones saved through his ministry did not get baptized IMMEDIATELY by others. Either Paul's companions, or other Christians in those locations did the baptizing.
Don't accuse me of saying Paul didn't Baptise anyone because I said he did and he learned from.the mistake of doing it.
Paul thanked God he did not Baptise anymore than he did after understanding his mistake and what he had caused by doing something he was not supposed to do.
He thanked God he did not Baptise anymore than he did.

1 corinth 1:14
I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius,

You obviously have not learned from that mistake and do not see the problem caused by it.
Those of us who have been baptized by God see the problem clearly.


Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
 
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These are two very stupid responses in trying to defend yourself.

(1) Paul did baptize some as he has said, and he and Silas did baptize the Philippian jailer and his household. We do not know the total number (including this group) and it does not matter. But no one should assume that Paul baptized absolutely no one.

(2) Of course Christ did not send Paul to baptize but to preach the Gospel. That did not mean that the ones saved through his ministry did not get baptized IMMEDIATELY by others. Either Paul's companions, or other Christians in those locations did the baptizing.
The Reverend Jim jones was Baptised in water several times.

Is he saved?
You pray “Jesus, forgive me of my sins. Come into my life and save me. I believe that You died on the cross for me and I want you to be Lord of my life. I surrender my life to you Jesus right now. I receive you. Thank you for saving me.”

If you have prayed this prayer please let us know. It’s important to find a church to go to and tell the pastor what you gave done. If you can’t, then write this prayer out and sign it and date it and save it. It’s important to follow up with water baptism as a symbol of what you’ve done.

Here’s some scripture references
Roman’s 3:23, 5:8, 6:23, 10:9-10, 13.
Revelation 3:20.
Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;



Is your water baptism the one baptism of God or is there more than one baptism ?

Should Paul have written,one Lord,one faith ,two baptisms?
 

mailmandan

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Water baptism and Spirit baptism are TWO DISTINCT baptisms. Matthew 3:11 - As for me, I (1) baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will (2) baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

There is only one baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37 for the word drink(s).
 

Nehemiah6

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The Reverend Jim jones was Baptised in water several times. Is he saved?
This is totally irrelevant. So let's not get into further irrelevance.

Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; Is your water baptism the one baptism of God or is there more than one baptism ? Should Paul have written, one Lord, one faith, two baptisms?
This thread did not even bring this up. The OP and all my posts have been about WATER baptism by immersion. At the same time, and prior to water baptism, Christ baptizes each one with the Holy Spirit (the one baptism mention in Eph 4:5) when every believer receives the GIFT of the Holy Spirit, as well as the gift of eternal life. This is a totally separate topic. And Paul was certainly not trying to reject water baptism because of this statement. Had he rejected water baptism, he would not have baptized anyone. So one again you are promoting your false beliefs and trying to prove something.

But where is the sincere apology you owe me for insulting me? That should have been your first response, since you did insult me with that comment. Anyhow, your pride and stubbornness will not allow you to do what is right, and that is between you and the Lord. It makes no difference to me since it will not be sincere,
 
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This is totally irrelevant. So let's not get into further irrelevance.

This thread did not even bring this up. The OP and all my posts have been about WATER baptism by immersion. At the same time, and prior to water baptism, Christ baptizes each one with the Holy Spirit (the one baptism mention in Eph 4:5) when every believer receives the GIFT of the Holy Spirit, as well as the gift of eternal life. This is a totally separate topic. And Paul was certainly not trying to reject water baptism because of this statement. Had he rejected water baptism, he would not have baptized anyone. So one again you are promoting your false beliefs and trying to prove something.

But where is the sincere apology you owe me for insulting me? That should have been your first response, since you did insult me with that comment. Anyhow, your pride and stubbornness will not allow you to do what is right, and that is between you and the Lord. It makes no difference to me since it will not be sincere,

Then you admit ,water baptism doesn't save anyone and is not the baptism essential to being saved.

Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.




He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;


Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

It has nothing to do with water.
And I owe you nothing.
 
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Water baptism
Is it the one baptism?


As Jones grew older, he attended services at most of the churches in Lynn, often going to multiple churches each week, and he was baptized in several of them.[17] Jones developed a desire to become a preacher as a child and he began to practice preaching in private.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
 

Sipsey

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"The sinner's prayer is nothing more than a modern idea to construe Bible theology."
We are told to search out the truth concerning the common salvation as first delivered to the saints/apostles. (Jude 3)

Jesus gave the Apostle Peter the key(S) to the kingdom. (Matt. 16:19) And Peter shared the keys with Jews,
Gentiles, and Samaritans as instructed. (John 21:15-17) And there is no mention of a sinner's prayer. But rather, the need for believers to repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, (water) and receive the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-6, 22:16) The following scripture reference by the Apostle Paul speaks to what occurs when a person believes and obeys the command. "And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Cor 6:11) Those who have experienced the NT rebirth are to then work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. (Phil. 2) Continuing to confess Jesus to others is to endure to the end of one's life. (Rom. 10, Matt. 10:22)


The sinner's prayer is nothing more than a modern idea to construe Bible theology?
"C.S. Lewis used the term “a great cataract of nonsense” to describe how people use a modern idea to construe Bible theology.
One such example, perhaps the best example, is a conversion method called the Sinner’s Prayer. It is more popularly known as the Four Spiritual Laws.

Lewis used this term to describe what happens when someone looks backward at the Bible based only on what he or she has known. Instead, an evangelical should first discern conversion practices from Scriptures and then consider the topic in light of two thousand years of other thinkers. As it is, a novel technique popularized through recent revivals has replaced the biblically sound practice.

Today, hundreds of millions hold to a belief system and salvation practice that no one had ever held until relatively recently. The notions that one can pray Jesus into his or her heart and that baptism is merely an outward sign are actually late developments. The prayer itself dates to the Billy Sunday era; however, the basis for talking in prayer for salvation goes back a few hundred years.

Consider the following appeal: “Just accept Christ into your heart through prayer and he’ll receive you. It doesn’t matter what church you belong to or if you ever do good works. You’ll be born again at the moment you receive Christ. He’s at the door knocking. You don’t even have to change bad habits, just trust Christ as Savior. God loves you and forgives you unconditionally. Anyone out there can be saved if they … Accept Christ, now! Let us pray for Christ to now come into your heart.”

Sound familiar? This method of conversion has had far-reaching effects worldwide as many have claimed this as the basis for their salvation. Yet, what is the historical significance of this conversion? How did the process of rebirth, which Jesus spoke of in John 3, evolve into praying him into one’s heart? I believe it was an error germinating shortly after the Reformation, which eventually caused great ruin and dismay in Christendom. ”

Billy Graham, Bill Bright
Billy Graham and his crusades were the next step in the evolution of things. Billy Graham was converted in 1936 at a Sunday-styled crusade. By the late 1940s it was evident to many that Graham would be the champion of evangelicalism. His crusades summed up everything that had been done from the times of Charles Finney through Billy Sunday except that he added respectability that some of the others lacked. In the 1950s Graham’s crusade counselors were using a prayer that had been sporadically used for some time. It began with a prayer from his Four Steps to Peace with God. The original four-step formula came during Billy Sunday’s era in a tract called Four Things God Wants you to Know. The altar call system of Graham had been refined by a precise protocol of music, trained counselors and a speaking technique all geared to help people ‘accept Christ as Savior.’

In the late 1950s Bill Bright came up with the exact form of the currently popular Four Spiritual Laws so that the average believer could take the crusade experience into the living room of their neighbor. Of course, this method ended with the Sinner’s Prayer. Those who responded to crusades and sermons could have the crusade experience at home when they prayed, “Lord Jesus, I need You. Thank You for dying on the cross for my sins. I open the door of my life and receive You as my Savior and Lord. Thank You for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. Take control of the throne of my life. Make me the kind of person You want me to be.”

Later, in 1977 Billy Graham published a now famous work entitled, How to Be Born Again. For all the Scripture he used, he never once uses the hallmark rebirth event in the second chapter of the book of Acts. The cataract (blind spot) kept him away from the most powerful conversion event in all Scripture. It is my guess that its emphasis on baptism and repentance for the forgiveness of sins was incompatible with his approach." Excerpts from Concise Bibliography, Steve Staten – Chicago, IL, USA
1 Cor. 1:21- For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
 
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Many great leaders have been water Baptised with church leaders pronouncing the words"in the name of the Father,the Son ,and the holy spirit".

Many great murderers


Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov in Streletskaya Ulitsa, Simbirsk, now Ulyanovsk, on 22 April 1870, and baptised six days later; as a child, he was known as Volodya the common nickname variant of Vladimir.

Stalin was born Ioseb Jughashvili on 18 December [O.S. 6 December] 1878 in the town of Gori, in what is today the country of Georgia. He was baptised on 29 December [O.S. 17 December] 1878 and christened Ioseb, and known by the diminutive "Soso" His parents were Ekaterine (Keke) and Besarion Jughashvili (Beso).


Hitler was born to a practicing Catholic mother, Klara Hitler, and was baptized in the Roman Catholic Church; his father, Alois Hitler, was a free-thinker and skeptical of the Catholic Church. In 1904, he was confirmed at the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Linz, Austria, where the family lived.




President Vladimir Putin said in a documentary that his mother had him christened as a child in secret from his father, who was a member of the Communist Party organization in the factory where he worked.

"My mother baptized me in secret from my father, who was a member of the Communist Party … It touched on me personally and my family," Putin said.




That's water baptism.Not holy spirit baptism.
 

Burn1986

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Look y’all, I only put down an example of a prayer you could pray. If you just cry out to Jesus however you can, then that’s what you need to do. There were no other threads on this, so I put it out there.
 

Wansvic

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Many great leaders have been water Baptised with church leaders pronouncing the words"in the name of the Father,the Son ,and the holy spirit".

Many great murderers


Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov in Streletskaya Ulitsa, Simbirsk, now Ulyanovsk, on 22 April 1870, and baptised six days later; as a child, he was known as Volodya the common nickname variant of Vladimir.

Stalin was born Ioseb Jughashvili on 18 December [O.S. 6 December] 1878 in the town of Gori, in what is today the country of Georgia. He was baptised on 29 December [O.S. 17 December] 1878 and christened Ioseb, and known by the diminutive "Soso" His parents were Ekaterine (Keke) and Besarion Jughashvili (Beso).


Hitler was born to a practicing Catholic mother, Klara Hitler, and was baptized in the Roman Catholic Church; his father, Alois Hitler, was a free-thinker and skeptical of the Catholic Church. In 1904, he was confirmed at the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Linz, Austria, where the family lived.




President Vladimir Putin said in a documentary that his mother had him christened as a child in secret from his father, who was a member of the Communist Party organization in the factory where he worked.

"My mother baptized me in secret from my father, who was a member of the Communist Party … It touched on me personally and my family," Putin said.




That's water baptism.Not holy spirit baptism.
The references you note conflict with what is revealed in the word concerning water baptism. Even so, to reject God's word because of the actions of man is not wise.

Everyone who believes in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is commanded to repent, be water baptized in the NAME of Jesus in order for their sins to be remitted and to receive the Holy Ghost just as the apostles did on the Day of Pentecost. Many scriptures express this truth. To refute the need for water baptism is to go directly against the word of God:

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:36-42
 

Lamar

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How to be saved?

James 1:27

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

But I would never add alone.

Of course not.
 

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How do you get saved? Spend less money than you earn.
 
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The references you note conflict with what is revealed in the word concerning water baptism. Even so, to reject God's word because of the actions of man is not wise.

Everyone who believes in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is commanded to repent, be water baptized in the NAME of Jesus in order for their sins to be remitted and to receive the Holy Ghost just as the apostles did on the Day of Pentecost. Many scriptures express this truth. To refute the need for water baptism is to go directly against the word of God:

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:36-42
The references you note conflict with what is revealed in the word concerning water baptism. Even so, to reject God's word because of the actions of man is not wise.

Everyone who believes in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is commanded to repent, be water baptized in the NAME of Jesus in order for their sins to be remitted and to receive the Holy Ghost just as the apostles did on the Day of Pentecost. Many scriptures express this truth. To refute the need for water baptism is to go directly against the word of God:

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:36-42
 
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The references you note conflict with what is revealed in the word concerning water baptism. Even so, to reject God's word because of the actions of man is not wise.

Everyone who believes in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus is commanded to repent, be water baptized in the NAME of Jesus in order for their sins to be remitted and to receive the Holy Ghost just as the apostles did on the Day of Pentecost. Many scriptures express this truth. To refute the need for water baptism is to go directly against the word of God:

"Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." Acts 2:36-42



Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


First,water is not the name of Jesus.So when someone is Baptised in water,they are not Baptised in the name of Jesus but instead are Baptised in water.If they were Baptised in the holy spirit,then they are Baptised in the name of Jesus because the holy spirit comes in Jesus name.Water does not.

Second,the gentiles In scripture received the holy spirit without being baptized in water which proves your teaching is false that man must first be Baptised in water before they can recieve the holy spirit.


You should ask for the gift of the holy spirit so you can be saved.
 

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Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


First,water is not the name of Jesus.Sobwhen one is Baptised in water,they are not Baptised in the name of Jesus but instead are Baptised in water.If they were Baptised in the holy spirit,then they are Baptised in the name of Jesus because the holy spirit comes in Jesus name.

Second,the gentiles In scripture received the holy spirit without being baptized in water which proves your teaching is false that man must first be Baptised in water before they can recieve the holy spirit.


You should ask for the gift of the holy spirit so you can be saved.
Thats a lot of analyzing 😳