The Greatest depression is coming, are you ready?

[ZNP]

You do have a big imagination but I think I'm just going to stick with bible prophecy .It makes more sense.

According to Bible prophecy they hide in holes in the ground when the Day of the Lord takes place. This cannot be simply due to a nuclear war because everyone knows it is the great day of "the Lamb". That can only refer to Jesus and so the tip off is probably the rapture.

However, there is no reason to hide in holes in the ground due to the rapture unless it also includes missiles and bombs, ie fall out shelters.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

According to Bible prophecy they hide in holes in the ground when the Day of the Lord takes place. This cannot be simply due to a nuclear war because everyone knows it is the great day of "the Lamb". That can only refer to Jesus and so the tip off is probably the rapture.

However, there is no reason to hide in holes in the ground due to the rapture unless it also includes missiles and bombs, ie fall out shelters.

According to bible prophecy ,they are Israelis who are hiding in the ground on the day of the Lord.Armegeddon is located in the country Israel.Not China,not Russia,not USA.

Luke 23
28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

29 For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

According to Bible prophecy they hide in holes in the ground when the Day of the Lord takes place. This cannot be simply due to a nuclear war because everyone knows it is the great day of "the Lamb". That can only refer to Jesus and so the tip off is probably the rapture.

However, there is no reason to hide in holes in the ground due to the rapture unless it also includes missiles and bombs, ie fall out shelters.

And just so you know. The nations come against Jerusalem on the day of the Lord.

Jerusalem is not in the USA,or China.

Zech 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

 

[ZNP]

And just so you know. The nations come against Jerusalem on the day of the Lord.

Jerusalem is not in the USA,or China.

Zech 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

During the tribulation one fourth of the people on Earth die and then one third die. Put those together and one half of the world's population dies. That is 4 billion people. Israel makes up a tiny, tiny fraction of that. We are told that one third of those in Israel are saved, so even though the total number in Israel is tiny, only two thirds of that number are killed. Now there is no way that 4 billion people are sent to the Middle East. The logistics of doing that would be insane.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

During the tribulation one fourth of the people on Earth die and then one third die. Put those together and one half of the world's population dies. That is 4 billion people. Israel makes up a tiny, tiny fraction of that. We are told that one third of those in Israel are saved, so even though the total number in Israel is tiny, only two thirds of that number are killed. Now there is no way that 4 billion people are sent to the Middle East. The logistics of doing that would be insane.

About everything you just posted is false .


And 144000 Israelis is not 1/3 of the population of Israel.Your math is way off.

Revelation 7
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.



144,000 is about 2 percent of Israel's population .Not 1/3.
As of today 2 percent of Israel population is Christian and most of those are Arabs.The majority of israels population worship the beast they have followed after.Sometime next year they should be receiving the mark of the beast which they have followed.That is after the second beast arrives.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...back-vacations-travel-restaurants-save-money/

BIDEN ECONOMY: Americans Are Pulling Back on Vacations, Travel and Restaurants to Save Money

1. We are seeing severe worldwide inflation in the cost of gas and food.

2. We are seeing a collapse in the stock markets around the world.

3. People are not running to bonds because they expect interest rates to rise (which causes the value of bonds they have bought to drop).

4. The Fed is raising interest rates and will continue to do so, which in turn is causing central banks around the world to do the same.

5. As a result of rising interest rates mortgage rates have risen dramatically. For example, we sold our house in March. The company that bought it flips houses and the price they paid to us reflected their estimate that they could fix it up and resell for $700k. If you calculate that your buyer puts down 20% the new mortgage rate would cause them to drop the selling price by 200k for the same buyer to buy it.

A. We are seeing a sharp decline in mortgages.

B. We are also seeing a sharp decline in new homes being built. I heard from one builder that the windows he gets now take 18 months to be delivered. If you cannot get some key item it can hold up the entire construction of the house.

6. We are also seeing a sharp decline in car sales. It is a double whammy for them. They are having a hard time getting parts. I bought a car two months ago and it is still not here. When it does get here they tell me the heated seats won't work because they don't have the chip but hope to get it and install it before winter. However, I bought this car before the interest rates spiked. Now financing a car will be a double whammy. Cars will be both harder to get and much more expensive to finance.

When exactly is this great depression supposed to start?
Before or after Christ comes?

 

[ZNP]

When exactly is this great depression supposed to start?
Before or after Christ comes?

According to the gospels "they will be eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage" right up to the day the rain comes and sweeps them all away. That tells me the depression does not come until after the rapture. Also if you look at the version in Luke they'll be doing business, buying and building right up until that day.

Then we have a couple of shadows of the rapture.

The numerical value for pillar in Hebrew equals the value for the church in Greek. So when Samson pushes out the pillars that is understood as the rapture, it causes the temple to Baal to collapse and kill all those in the temple celebrating and mocking Samson.

Another example is the writing on the wall, Daniel comes and interprets it. The Babylonian king and his court are all feasting in the banquet house eating and drinking out of the utensils from the Temple. Then that night Babylon is overthrown.

So these three cases, the word in the gospels and the types and shadows would indicate that the rapture of the saints coincides with the collapse of the economy. Likewise in Exodus when the Israelites leave they take gold and silver with them which they had borrowed. Imagine if all these people who are raptured have loans, mortgages, and credit card debt. Egypt loses all those servants and all that money that was loaned. Maybe they were taxpayers as well. So the Egyptian army is destroyed along with the economy when the Israelites cross the Red Sea.

So we have to ask ourselves why do we believe there will be a great depression during the tribulation?

First of all you have to take the mark of the beast and worship Satan if you want to be able to buy or sell and that includes buying food to eat. If you refuse you are beheaded. That is not "normal". That indicates a very tough time that would call for drastic measures. Why would people agree to do that if they were not desperate to be able to buy food. That sounds like a great depression with the soup kitchens. Also look at the four horsemen, you have war, then famine then pestilence. So we have seen that progression in other situations. War kills people and destroys the infrastructure. Because the men are in the army they are not growing crops. As a result there is famine. Because there is famine and a lack of infrastructure you begin to get pestilence. You don't have garbage men hauling away garbage so the rats proliferate. You don't have running water and so you don't have sanitary conditions or clean water. Very often what causes war in the first place is fighting over resources. So if people are out of work, starving, then joining the military and going off to fight a war becomes a better alternative.

So then the mark of the beast tells me the situation during the tribulation will be dire. However, the word of the Lord and the types and shadows tell me that no one realizes this until the rapture. By "no one" I don't mean Noah, or Enoch, or Elijah. The types of the rapture all know what is going on, but the people of the world are drunk on the world and are asleep.

So then although the great depression doesn't take place until after the rapture, the table is set beforehand. It is like a Jenga tower that is fully set up to collapse when the Lord pulls out those blocks that the rest of the world is sitting on.

Then the prophets talk about the tribulation as though all the faith, hope and love is gone. The people everyone despised and mocked were the ones filled with faith, hope and love and that is what kept the world full of light and life. The minute they are snatched out of the world everything collapses and then there is no more faith, hope or life.

I watch for these things because if anyone is paying careful attention it will be a cautionary tale to make sure your treasure is in heaven. Also I watch because I believe the US is the Great Babylon and they will be overthrown in one hour and so seeing that day approach is the same as seeing the day of the rapture approach.

 

[ZNP]

About everything you just posted is false .


And 144000 Israelis is not 1/3 of the population of Israel.Your math is way off.

Revelation 7
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.



144,000 is about 2 percent of Israel's population .Not 1/3.
As of today 2 percent of Israel population is Christian and most of those are Arabs.The majority of israels population worship the beast they have followed after.Sometime next year they should be receiving the mark of the beast which they have followed.That is after the second beast arrives.

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

One fourth killed by Pestilence, famine and war. That is just the first four seals, the fifth seal is the martyrs, the sixth is the great earthquake when they hide in the holes and say the great day of the Lord's wrath has come. The seventh seal is when the bowls of wrath are poured out including Armageddon.

In Revelation 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

The Euphrates is dried up and the way of the armies is opened and they kill a third of men.

One fourth is 25%, leaving 75%. One third is another 25% leaving 50% of the original number. That is 4 billion people.

 

[ZNP]

When exactly is this great depression supposed to start?
Before or after Christ comes?

The term "Christ comes" is too vague. There is a pre-tribulation rapture. Then there is a 7 year period known as the 70th week of Daniel. The first thee and half years is tribulation in which there are many Christians who are beheaded for their testimony because they refuse to take the mark of the beast. In the midst of this week the two witnesses are killed but are not buried and their dead bodies are live streamed for three days. Apparently the whole world has heard about the rapture and the resurrection of Jesus as this point and they want to watch and be sure they don't rise from the dead. Then they do rise and are taken up and for the second half of the tribulation God pours out His wrath, that is what is known as "The Great Tribulation".

Jesus does not return in the clouds in glory until the second half, when the Jews say "blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord".

So if you are talking about Christ's coming it is reasonable to think that you are referring to a period of time only one year or less away from Armageddon. So yes, the Great depression comes long before that. But if you are referring to the rapture, before the tribulation even begins as "Christ coming" then no, the great depression would take place immediately after that point.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

According to the gospels "they will be eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage" right up to the day the rain comes and sweeps them all away. That tells me the depression does not come until after the rapture. Also if you look at the version in Luke they'll be doing business, buying and building right up until that day.

Then we have a couple of shadows of the rapture.

The numerical value for pillar in Hebrew equals the value for the church in Greek. So when Samson pushes out the pillars that is understood as the rapture, it causes the temple to Baal to collapse and kill all those in the temple celebrating and mocking Samson.

Another example is the writing on the wall, Daniel comes and interprets it. The Babylonian king and his court are all feasting in the banquet house eating and drinking out of the utensils from the Temple. Then that night Babylon is overthrown.

So these three cases, the word in the gospels and the types and shadows would indicate that the rapture of the saints coincides with the collapse of the economy. Likewise in Exodus when the Israelites leave they take gold and silver with them which they had borrowed. Imagine if all these people who are raptured have loans, mortgages, and credit card debt. Egypt loses all those servants and all that money that was loaned. Maybe they were taxpayers as well. So the Egyptian army is destroyed along with the economy when the Israelites cross the Red Sea.

So we have to ask ourselves why do we believe there will be a great depression during the tribulation?

First of all you have to take the mark of the beast and worship Satan if you want to be able to buy or sell and that includes buying food to eat. If you refuse you are beheaded. That is not "normal". That indicates a very tough time that would call for drastic measures. Why would people agree to do that if they were not desperate to be able to buy food. That sounds like a great depression with the soup kitchens. Also look at the four horsemen, you have war, then famine then pestilence. So we have seen that progression in other situations. War kills people and destroys the infrastructure. Because the men are in the army they are not growing crops. As a result there is famine. Because there is famine and a lack of infrastructure you begin to get pestilence. You don't have garbage men hauling away garbage so the rats proliferate. You don't have running water and so you don't have sanitary conditions or clean water. Very often what causes war in the first place is fighting over resources. So if people are out of work, starving, then joining the military and going off to fight a war becomes a better alternative.

So then the mark of the beast tells me the situation during the tribulation will be dire. However, the word of the Lord and the types and shadows tell me that no one realizes this until the rapture. By "no one" I don't mean Noah, or Enoch, or Elijah. The types of the rapture all know what is going on, but the people of the world are drunk on the world and are asleep.

So then although the great depression doesn't take place until after the rapture, the table is set beforehand. It is like a Jenga tower that is fully set up to collapse when the Lord pulls out those blocks that the rest of the world is sitting on.

Then the prophets talk about the tribulation as though all the faith, hope and love is gone. The people everyone despised and mocked were the ones filled with faith, hope and love and that is what kept the world full of light and life. The minute they are snatched out of the world everything collapses and then there is no more faith, hope or life.

I watch for these things because if anyone is paying careful attention it will be a cautionary tale to make sure your treasure is in heaven. Also I watch because I believe the US is the Great Babylon and they will be overthrown in one hour and so seeing that day approach is the same as seeing the day of the rapture approach.

You blew it in the first paragraph so I didn't bother wasting my time on the rest .

Jesus was talking about the time of Noah when he said they will be eating and drinking and them who we're eating and drinking were destroyed.They were not raptured.
They were utterly destroyed by the flood.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

One fourth killed by Pestilence, famine and war. That is just the first four seals, the fifth seal is the martyrs, the sixth is the great earthquake when they hide in the holes and say the great day of the Lord's wrath has come. The seventh seal is when the bowls of wrath are poured out including Armageddon.

In Revelation 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

The Euphrates is dried up and the way of the armies is opened and they kill a third of men.

One fourth is 25%, leaving 75%. One third is another 25% leaving 50% of the original number. That is 4 billion people.

A fourth of the earth does not mean a fourrh of mankind.One forth of the earths surface could amount to a very small number of people as most of the earth is covered with water.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The term "Christ comes" is too vague. There is a pre-tribulation rapture. Then there is a 7 year period known as the 70th week of Daniel. The first thee and half years is tribulation in which there are many Christians who are beheaded for their testimony because they refuse to take the mark of the beast. In the midst of this week the two witnesses are killed but are not buried and their dead bodies are live streamed for three days. Apparently the whole world has heard about the rapture and the resurrection of Jesus as this point and they want to watch and be sure they don't rise from the dead. Then they do rise and are taken up and for the second half of the tribulation God pours out His wrath, that is what is known as "The Great Tribulation".

Jesus does not return in the clouds in glory until the second half, when the Jews say "blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord".

So if you are talking about Christ's coming it is reasonable to think that you are referring to a period of time only one year or less away from Armageddon. So yes, the Great depression comes long before that. But if you are referring to the rapture, before the tribulation even begins as "Christ coming" then no, the great depression would take place immediately after that point.

You wish there was a pre trib rapture so you would not suffer as Christ or the apostles or any other disciples of Christ have suffered.Believing in lies is not a good refuge.


But I highly doubt you would suffer for Christ or because of his name.

 

[ZNP]

It is time

Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

It is time

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

It is time

Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

It is time

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

This time of trouble Daniels wrote about is the great tribulation caused by the abomination that causes desolation place in Jerusalem by the United states armed forces.
That will be the third city the US nuked but there will be many more shortly to follow.
The Samson option in action.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

It is time

Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

It is time

Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

PS
The tribulation which Jesus said he would come after starts 3.5 years before Daniel 12:1.

The saints in Israel are imprisoned and killed for their testimony starting in Daniel 11:33 and lasts till the time of the end in Daniel 12:1.


Daniel 11:33-35

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.
During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere
And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

It is after this persecution in Daniel 11:33-35 that Christ comes in Daniel 12:1.


Mathew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

[ZNP]

You blew it in the first paragraph so I didn't bother wasting my time on the rest .

Jesus was talking about the time of Noah when he said they will be eating and drinking and them who we're eating and drinking were destroyed.They were not raptured.
They were utterly destroyed by the flood.

Noah and the seven souls saved with Noah in the ark represent Christ and the church that are saved out of the flood.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Noah and the seven souls saved with Noah in the ark represent Christ and the church that are saved out of the flood.

Noah was not taken away.The people who are eating and drinking who were oblivious to the rising waters was not Noah and his children.These people who are taken away are all destroyed off the face of the earth.

Mathew 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.



These who are taken are not raptured.They are destroyed just like the people in Noah's days who were taken away by the flood waters never to be seen again .Now let us examine the rest of the chapter.



42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.





One thing I've noticed about people who preach the pre trib rapture is they don't watch as Jesus commands.They don't pay attention to the prophecies being fulfilled before their very eyes.

 

[ZNP]

Are you ready?

Henry Gruver shares this story of a philosopher which taught that if God is love He would not send people to hell so there is no reason why he needed to repent and receive the gospel. When this man died his soul began to plunge into hell and he screamed "see, I was right, there is no God of love". Just at that moment God sent two angels and caught him up to the gates of heaven and he saw how beautiful and lovely it was and said "I knew it, I knew if there was a God of love I would not need to repent of sins". But as soon as he entered the gates he immediately was overwhelmed by his sins. All those unrepented sins covered him, he was acutely aware of them and it was torture, so he fled out from heaven off the edge and plunged into hell shouting "unclean, I'm unclean".

There are two sides of heaven, on the one hand we will be free and clear of the stumbling blocks, but on the other hand are your clothes white as snow?

 

[ZNP]

Moscow Exchange in Crisis as US Imposes

This is clearly war.

 

[ZNP]

The people are demanding an explanation -- OK, here it is, you have put your money into a bag with holes in it, a thief has snuck in during the night and robbed you.

One in ten property owners is trying to sell! Can you imagine? That would be like 2 million people trying to sell their home and move out of a city of 20 million! You can imagine housing prices are falling rapidly and precipitously and as a result many who just bought have stopped paying mortgages and chosen to default instead.