Loss of salvation???
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lamar, look at it this way: if everyone believed what you believe in about losing your salvation because of turning into an apostate, how would anyone know if they are saved? that doesn't make sense. the Holy Spirit authored the Bible & God made sure their is a way for us to KNOW TOTALLY that we are saved. once saved always saved is what God established. also, if not OSAS, how would anyone know if they're saved? how many times do you have to get saved & when will you know you're saved?
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Just spitballing here, it might be we need a new Heart as said in Ezekiel 36:26. If God gives this, then will we not change from inside out?
Born again from God is to me, being given that new heart in the risen Son isn't it? I just know to love in mercy and truth from Risen Son given me to just love all in the same measure as I am loved by God first
Therefore I see to not fear, even though this unredeemed flesh I am in fears and fights and argues and wants to be nothing but right and followers under them
No!!! Thank you
I see to stand in Thanksgiving and Praise with all sin taken away by Son on that cross for us all. To be thankful, since I know I am not perfect only God is. At least to me this is truth beyond measure
I know how many times, I have sinned over and over and over again and again and again, not wanting to. And God never leaving me or forsaking me. In my response I get, got thanksgiving and praise
Psalm 100:4, 103:12 asked for the new Heart and am given it, along with all the other believers too.
The risen Jesus is where this new life is at to live new. The Death was for reconciliation to all, no life in reconciliation and no perfection in anyone trying to do Law.
Move from death to life in trust to Father it is done for you to be new and not be the old you anymore. Not having to try, when it is given you as that takes time for anyone to go through this truth of troublers first, not, to not say you will never go through troubles anymore here on earth, that is a lie!
God does just love us all y'all
Born again from God is to me, being given that new heart in the risen Son isn't it? I just know to love in mercy and truth from Risen Son given me to just love all in the same measure as I am loved by God first
Therefore I see to not fear, even though this unredeemed flesh I am in fears and fights and argues and wants to be nothing but right and followers under them
No!!! Thank you
I see to stand in Thanksgiving and Praise with all sin taken away by Son on that cross for us all. To be thankful, since I know I am not perfect only God is. At least to me this is truth beyond measure
I know how many times, I have sinned over and over and over again and again and again, not wanting to. And God never leaving me or forsaking me. In my response I get, got thanksgiving and praise
Psalm 100:4, 103:12 asked for the new Heart and am given it, along with all the other believers too.
The risen Jesus is where this new life is at to live new. The Death was for reconciliation to all, no life in reconciliation and no perfection in anyone trying to do Law.
Move from death to life in trust to Father it is done for you to be new and not be the old you anymore. Not having to try, when it is given you as that takes time for anyone to go through this truth of troublers first, not, to not say you will never go through troubles anymore here on earth, that is a lie!
God does just love us all y'all
the Enemy, evil, not the people here replying, the evil of this world
Uses
Doubt, fear, anger, to get to us the people in belief to not see clearly, evil especially goes after those that see they are born again by God and only give God all the credit as Jesus did during his entire earth walk.100% dependent on Father.
You see, all anyone needs is just a modicum of doubt, to not be confident.
As said by God through Isaiah Chapter 7:1-9 They were told what God was going to do, and Were told if they doubt, then they will not be established. Amazing, how deep, high and wide does that go?
I have no doubt God will and does carry on God's done work through all the that believe God. God puts up with us all, even though not one of us is perfect ever of the self, ever. Anyone stop 100% sin in them?? Anyone??
God by son made us as perfect, as if I, you or no one else ever sinned Col 1:21-23
Amazing. And that continues in you, you, you and me too. That is amazing grace that is from God as sufficient from God to us the children to praise and worship God only, at least me.
All others, that you think you can lose salvation is not from God to you, it is you that first born flesh of you in doubt. Thinking, if you do this and or that, then you not in, Really????????????/ You kick you out in doubt, God does not do that, you do it, by not believing God (Phil 1:6)
If that is you, doubting then you do not know this loving God I know in mercy of Son for us to be new in
love and mercy to everyone as he did that on that cross for us all, to be first reconciled as forgiven. to see in thanksgiving and praise all sin first taken away, so we can be born new in God's Spirit and Truth, thank you.
Uses
Doubt, fear, anger, to get to us the people in belief to not see clearly, evil especially goes after those that see they are born again by God and only give God all the credit as Jesus did during his entire earth walk.100% dependent on Father.
You see, all anyone needs is just a modicum of doubt, to not be confident.
As said by God through Isaiah Chapter 7:1-9 They were told what God was going to do, and Were told if they doubt, then they will not be established. Amazing, how deep, high and wide does that go?
I have no doubt God will and does carry on God's done work through all the that believe God. God puts up with us all, even though not one of us is perfect ever of the self, ever. Anyone stop 100% sin in them?? Anyone??
God by son made us as perfect, as if I, you or no one else ever sinned Col 1:21-23
Amazing. And that continues in you, you, you and me too. That is amazing grace that is from God as sufficient from God to us the children to praise and worship God only, at least me.
All others, that you think you can lose salvation is not from God to you, it is you that first born flesh of you in doubt. Thinking, if you do this and or that, then you not in, Really????????????/ You kick you out in doubt, God does not do that, you do it, by not believing God (Phil 1:6)
If that is you, doubting then you do not know this loving God I know in mercy of Son for us to be new in
love and mercy to everyone as he did that on that cross for us all, to be first reconciled as forgiven. to see in thanksgiving and praise all sin first taken away, so we can be born new in God's Spirit and Truth, thank you.
The person never had it or saw it as good for them to be given it, Unbelief. Is what began the fallen race of people to begin with, the first Adam
Then the second Adam (Jesus Christ) to return to belief to God. Father knows best, and I am in process learning truth over error, as all are here on earth also in process. Some believing and some not yet
There is a final choice to be made and that will be done consciously, as then there can be no excuse for anyone to use to say, Hey God I did not know.
All know from within themselves. What is good and bad, I personally choose God the only one good, have a blessed day
Then the second Adam (Jesus Christ) to return to belief to God. Father knows best, and I am in process learning truth over error, as all are here on earth also in process. Some believing and some not yet
There is a final choice to be made and that will be done consciously, as then there can be no excuse for anyone to use to say, Hey God I did not know.
All know from within themselves. What is good and bad, I personally choose God the only one good, have a blessed day
Has nothing to do with personal claims. Either God saves you and keeps you saved or He doesn't. No-one is more powerful than God and He finishes what He begins.
Philippians 1:6
being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
No-one saves themselves not do they keep themself saved and God is not a fair weather friend dropping you like a hot cake because you don't measure up.
Philippians 1:6
being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
No-one saves themselves not do they keep themself saved and God is not a fair weather friend dropping you like a hot cake because you don't measure up.
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And the parable is about forgiveness, not salvation. If you are saved, you are in Christ where all forgiveness is to be found and cannot be revoked or lost. One's failure to utilize their position whether through ignorance or willful stupidity does not mean God has removed salvation from them so that they are once again dead.
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Yes, the scriptures teach that a person can lose his salvation. As w
yes, definitely, you can lose your salvation. And here are the scriptures that prove it:
EXODUS 32:33-“The Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will BLOT HIM OUT OF MY BOOK.”
REVELATION 3:5- Whoever overcomes (sin), “ …I will not blot out his name from the book of life.”
Galations 5:4-“ …you are FALLEN FROM GRACE.”
2 JOHN 1:8-“ Look to yourself, that we do not LOSE those things we worked for.”
1 CORINTHUABS 10:12- “Let him who thinks he stands, take heed lest he FALL”
HEBREWS 6:4-6- For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have BECOME PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, and have tasted the good word of God…IF THEY FALL AWAY to renew them again to repentance…”
HEBREWS 10:35- “therefore do not CAST AWAY your confidence…so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise.
Verse 38- “but IF anyone DRAWS BACK, my soul has no pleasure in him.”
HEBREWS 12:15- “…lest ANYONE FALL SHORT. Of the grace of God…and by this many become defiled.”
HEBREWS 2:1- Therefore we must give the earnest heed to the things we have heard, LEST WE DRIFT AWAY.”
HEBREWS 4:11- “Let us be diligent to enter that rest, lest SOMEONE FALL according to the same example of disobedience.”
Romans 11:22- “…consider the goodness and the severity of God. On those who fell, severity. But toward you goodness IF YOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS. Otherwise you also WILL BE CUT OFF!”
Read the example of Simon the sorcerer in Acts 8:9-24. He had become a Christian in verse 13. Then he sinned. Peter told him to REPENT and PRAY for forgiveness. The Bible is true and God does not show partiality. If that is what Simon needed to do , then that is what WE need to do when we sin after becoming a Christian. We can trust God’s word.
yes, definitely, you can lose your salvation. And here are the scriptures that prove it:
EXODUS 32:33-“The Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will BLOT HIM OUT OF MY BOOK.”
REVELATION 3:5- Whoever overcomes (sin), “ …I will not blot out his name from the book of life.”
Galations 5:4-“ …you are FALLEN FROM GRACE.”
2 JOHN 1:8-“ Look to yourself, that we do not LOSE those things we worked for.”
1 CORINTHUABS 10:12- “Let him who thinks he stands, take heed lest he FALL”
HEBREWS 6:4-6- For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have BECOME PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, and have tasted the good word of God…IF THEY FALL AWAY to renew them again to repentance…”
HEBREWS 10:35- “therefore do not CAST AWAY your confidence…so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise.
Verse 38- “but IF anyone DRAWS BACK, my soul has no pleasure in him.”
HEBREWS 12:15- “…lest ANYONE FALL SHORT. Of the grace of God…and by this many become defiled.”
HEBREWS 2:1- Therefore we must give the earnest heed to the things we have heard, LEST WE DRIFT AWAY.”
HEBREWS 4:11- “Let us be diligent to enter that rest, lest SOMEONE FALL according to the same example of disobedience.”
Romans 11:22- “…consider the goodness and the severity of God. On those who fell, severity. But toward you goodness IF YOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS. Otherwise you also WILL BE CUT OFF!”
Read the example of Simon the sorcerer in Acts 8:9-24. He had become a Christian in verse 13. Then he sinned. Peter told him to REPENT and PRAY for forgiveness. The Bible is true and God does not show partiality. If that is what Simon needed to do , then that is what WE need to do when we sin after becoming a Christian. We can trust God’s word.
with respect, i say to you, you are doing a lot of mixing & crossing of verses & meanings. it doesn't make sense that you can never know you"re saved. 1 verse does it alone: 1st John 5:13! once saved always saved is what God teaches. quite simply, if you can lose salvation, when will you get it back? what if someone is close to passing in a hospital bed & you think you are unsaved?
