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Jesus is on the throne and is ruling and reigning in the hearts of every believer...the kingdom is in you...Luke 17:21.
Further, Jesus is building His church and the gates of hell can do nothing about it.

What land is the following verses about?
Where is this land located?

Revelation 20
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 

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Do you not know what kingdom under heaven this is speaking of?


Daniel 7

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
That's exactly what is occurring now. There are more Christians than ever before. Because it hasn't happened all at once doesn't mean it isn't increasingly occurring. The kingdom was referred to as a mustard seed. Starts out small, but becomes the largest. Or like leaven that grows to affect the whole lump.
 

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What land is the following verses about?
Where is this land located?

Revelation 20
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
It's referring to earth. The Holy city is the people of God...1 Peter 2:9, Revelation 21:2.
 

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So your saying ,no one was living in the land before the Jews arrived?
Does no one else live there now?

I'm not saying anything. Open a history book. It's easily found. Israel has 3000 yrs history in their land. They have a right to defend it.
 

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The Jews that settled Israel did not arrive by land.They came out of the sea.

The Exodus 1947
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Daniel 8
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.


They came from the north west ,and arrived in the pleasant land via the Mediterranean.

What the cornbread heck are you talking about?? The land belonged to the Jews before 48 and after. Always have the Jews been there, it's always been their homeland.
 
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What the cornbread heck are you talking about?? The land belonged to the Jews before 48 and after. Always have the Jews been there, it's always been their homeland.
You believe all the Jews who have moved to Canaan since the 40s have always lived there?

Really?
 
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I'm not saying anything. Open a history book. It's easily found. Israel has 3000 yrs history in their land. They have a right to defend it.

You believe all the Jews who have moved to Canaan since the 40s have always lived there and owned that land for 3000 years?
 
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It's referring to earth. The Holy city is the people of God...1 Peter 2:9, Revelation 21:2.

Where is that city on earth located?
The city which Gog and the nations with him surround?



Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 

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You call me antisemite because I do not support the beast which you support

You support antichrist


1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.


So ,do you support all antichrists or just jews who are antichrist?

I support the Jews, apostle Paul was supporting in Romans 11 when he said -


1. I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.


11. I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid

18. Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

23. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

24. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?


25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
 

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Where is that city on earth located?
The city which Gog and the nations with him surround?



Revelation 20

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Not sure. But it's talking about the end of the world as we know it, and not the destruction of Israel in the 1st century.
Chapters 4 through 14 are dealing with 1st century Israel. The rest of the book is dealing with God's plans moving forward.
This is why I asked if you had an outline for the book and if you had compared it to the book of Deuteronomy.
 
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Not sure. But it's talking about the end of the world as we know it, and not the destruction of Israel in the 1st century.
Chapters 4 through 14 are dealing with 1st century Israel. The rest of the book is dealing with God's plans moving forward.
This is why I asked if you had an outline for the book and if you had compared it to the book of Deuteronomy.
Revelation 20 is not talking about the end of the world as we know it because the saints have not been given the land that is promised to them yet.

That is 1000 years after Christ comes and resurrects the saints who are killed for their testimony during the tribulation which hasn't even started yet
 

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Revelation 20 is not talking about the end of the world as we know it because the saints have not been given the land that is promised to them yet.

That is 1000 years after Christ comes and resurrects the saints who are killed for their testimony during the tribulation which hasn't even started yet
That's your take and you are sticking with it.
 
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God gave them the land, with an everlasting promise. Take it up with Him.
No,God gave Christ the land with an everlasting promise.If they are not in Christ,then they are not heirs with Christ.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.

Galatians 3:29
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.



You say it is theirs because Christ died.
You agree with murderers.


Mark 12:7
“But the tenants said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’
 
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I support the Jews, apostle Paul was supporting in Romans 11 when he said -


1. I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.

11. I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid

18. Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

23. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

24. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
All 144,000.
 
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And why might they need a word from God at that time?
They need all the help they can get during that time.I mean,if they are not warned to not take the mark of the beast,then what would have stopped them from taking it?But now that they have been warned,they would rather die than take it

Revelation 14

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.