The Apostasy is on Full Display for the Whole World to See

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SonJudgment

SonJudgment

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studier said:
Thanks. Good point. I mentioned earlier that I wonder if/when the "three men" might show up as they did at Sodom and Gomorrah.

The reason I went into the US is that we are at an inflection point here where what took place at the Olympics is in line with much of what we see going on here. And just as God ultimately responds to being kicked, so has the US been described after this fashion. At this point it's coming down to whether or not US Christians and even unbelieving moralists are going to continue to be kicked by these immoral to the extreme people who have no limits to pushing themselves on others including children. So far it's just being mainly contained to the elections arena with a few exceptions.
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In terms of this I don't think we're going to let the democrats kick us around much longer. They played too much and putting Jezebel as their nominee and then trying to play the same Samson and Delilah game with us again so quickly is going to backfire pretty hard on them. Politically I think we will get Trump back and Trump will fix alot of the situation. However if this will fix the public's attitude towards God is a whole other matter, and it might not be so. It might be that God will bless us with Trump just so we can hang on a little bit longer, but judgement for America's many sins and rebellion against God will have to come sooner or later.
 
ZNP

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According to the Bible we do not judge people in the world. This includes our coworkers, and all others we might meet or share the same community.

However that does not include those in the church. In that case we call out sin. Paul was very clear in 1 Corinthians about a man living in sin. We do not tolerate that, we do not make excuses for that. Yes, we all are sinners saved by grace. There is a difference between a repentant sinner, who has confessed their sins, been washed in the blood of Jesus and is looking to the Lord for a work of salvation in their life. That is one thing. But a person who is living in sin, proud of it and flaunting it, rejecting the fellowship of the apostles, we are not even to eat with them. You can tell them their fault, but not over coffee. I wouldn't even go into the coffee shop with them.

What they did by portraying the Lord's table was to declare that they are every bit as much a part of the church as anyone else who has partaken of the Bread and the wine. So to me this is not about judging the LGBTQ+ lifestyle, I don't have anything to do with judging them.

No, this is about judging those who reject the word of God and preach a false gospel to others that you can ignore the fellowship of the apostles and still be saved. You can live in sin and pride and not have to worry about hell or judgment. When people were asked they thought this was a message of inclusion and equity. This is not a message of inclusion, it is a false gospel that will lead some to hell.
 
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ZNP said:
According to the Bible we do not judge people in the world. This includes our coworkers, and all others we might meet or share the same community.

However that does not include those in the church. In that case we call out sin. Paul was very clear in 1 Corinthians about a man living in sin. We do not tolerate that, we do not make excuses for that. Yes, we all are sinners saved by grace. There is a difference between a repentant sinner, who has confessed their sins, been washed in the blood of Jesus and is looking to the Lord for a work of salvation in their life. That is one thing. But a person who is living in sin, proud of it and flaunting it, rejecting the fellowship of the apostles, we are not even to eat with them. You can tell them their fault, but not over coffee. I wouldn't even go into the coffee shop with them.

What they did by portraying the Lord's table was to declare that they are every bit as much a part of the church as anyone else who has partaken of the Bread and the wine. So to me this is not about judging the LGBTQ+ lifestyle, I don't have anything to do with judging them.

No, this is about judging those who reject the word of God and preach a false gospel to others that you can ignore the fellowship of the apostles and still be saved. You can live in sin and pride and not have to worry about hell or judgment. When people were asked they thought this was a message of inclusion and equity. This is not a message of inclusion, it is a false gospel that will lead some to hell.
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well, to a lot of liberals love to do things to insult Christians and make them mad.

i see them on twitter with their " flying spaghetti monster" and " imaginary sky father" and other such comments.

and, they like to mock God.

make one think- if they think that the Bible is just fairy tales and God is not real, then why are they so interested in mocking Him and insulting His followers..
 
Magenta

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ZNP said:
What they did by portraying the Lord's table was to declare that they are every bit as much a part of the church as anyone else who has partaken of the Bread and the wine. So to me this is not about judging the LGBTQ+ lifestyle, I don't have anything to do with judging them.

No, this is about judging those who reject the word of God and preach a false gospel to others that you can ignore the fellowship of the apostles and still be saved. You can live in sin and pride and not have to worry about hell or judgment. When people were asked they thought this was a message of inclusion and equity. This is not a message of inclusion, it is a false gospel that will lead some to hell.
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You think they were declaring their Christianity through this portrayal???
 
ZNP

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Magenta said:
You think they were declaring their Christianity through this portrayal???
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That is precisely what is happening in all these churches flying the LGBTQ+ flags and having openly gay and lesbian pastors and transgenders giving the sermon. There are many pretending to be in churches proclaiming that the Bible is sexist and out of date and saying they don't have to keep this word or that word or some other word in the Bible.

When they ask people on the street what they thought the common sentiment was "inclusive". Yes, definitely what was meant.
 
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