The Apostasy is on Full Display for the Whole World to See

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Thanks. Good point. I mentioned earlier that I wonder if/when the "three men" might show up as they did at Sodom and Gomorrah.

The reason I went into the US is that we are at an inflection point here where what took place at the Olympics is in line with much of what we see going on here. And just as God ultimately responds to being kicked, so has the US been described after this fashion. At this point it's coming down to whether or not US Christians and even unbelieving moralists are going to continue to be kicked by these immoral to the extreme people who have no limits to pushing themselves on others including children. So far it's just being mainly contained to the elections arena with a few exceptions.
In terms of this I don't think we're going to let the democrats kick us around much longer. They played too much and putting Jezebel as their nominee and then trying to play the same Samson and Delilah game with us again so quickly is going to backfire pretty hard on them. Politically I think we will get Trump back and Trump will fix alot of the situation. However if this will fix the public's attitude towards God is a whole other matter, and it might not be so. It might be that God will bless us with Trump just so we can hang on a little bit longer, but judgement for America's many sins and rebellion against God will have to come sooner or later.
 

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According to the Bible we do not judge people in the world. This includes our coworkers, and all others we might meet or share the same community.

However that does not include those in the church. In that case we call out sin. Paul was very clear in 1 Corinthians about a man living in sin. We do not tolerate that, we do not make excuses for that. Yes, we all are sinners saved by grace. There is a difference between a repentant sinner, who has confessed their sins, been washed in the blood of Jesus and is looking to the Lord for a work of salvation in their life. That is one thing. But a person who is living in sin, proud of it and flaunting it, rejecting the fellowship of the apostles, we are not even to eat with them. You can tell them their fault, but not over coffee. I wouldn't even go into the coffee shop with them.

What they did by portraying the Lord's table was to declare that they are every bit as much a part of the church as anyone else who has partaken of the Bread and the wine. So to me this is not about judging the LGBTQ+ lifestyle, I don't have anything to do with judging them.

No, this is about judging those who reject the word of God and preach a false gospel to others that you can ignore the fellowship of the apostles and still be saved. You can live in sin and pride and not have to worry about hell or judgment. When people were asked they thought this was a message of inclusion and equity. This is not a message of inclusion, it is a false gospel that will lead some to hell.
 

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According to the Bible we do not judge people in the world. This includes our coworkers, and all others we might meet or share the same community.

However that does not include those in the church. In that case we call out sin. Paul was very clear in 1 Corinthians about a man living in sin. We do not tolerate that, we do not make excuses for that. Yes, we all are sinners saved by grace. There is a difference between a repentant sinner, who has confessed their sins, been washed in the blood of Jesus and is looking to the Lord for a work of salvation in their life. That is one thing. But a person who is living in sin, proud of it and flaunting it, rejecting the fellowship of the apostles, we are not even to eat with them. You can tell them their fault, but not over coffee. I wouldn't even go into the coffee shop with them.

What they did by portraying the Lord's table was to declare that they are every bit as much a part of the church as anyone else who has partaken of the Bread and the wine. So to me this is not about judging the LGBTQ+ lifestyle, I don't have anything to do with judging them.

No, this is about judging those who reject the word of God and preach a false gospel to others that you can ignore the fellowship of the apostles and still be saved. You can live in sin and pride and not have to worry about hell or judgment. When people were asked they thought this was a message of inclusion and equity. This is not a message of inclusion, it is a false gospel that will lead some to hell.
well, to a lot of liberals love to do things to insult Christians and make them mad.

i see them on twitter with their " flying spaghetti monster" and " imaginary sky father" and other such comments.

and, they like to mock God.

make one think- if they think that the Bible is just fairy tales and God is not real, then why are they so interested in mocking Him and insulting His followers..
 
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What they did by portraying the Lord's table was to declare that they are every bit as much a part of the church as anyone else who has partaken of the Bread and the wine. So to me this is not about judging the LGBTQ+ lifestyle, I don't have anything to do with judging them.

No, this is about judging those who reject the word of God and preach a false gospel to others that you can ignore the fellowship of the apostles and still be saved. You can live in sin and pride and not have to worry about hell or judgment. When people were asked they thought this was a message of inclusion and equity. This is not a message of inclusion, it is a false gospel that will lead some to hell.
You think they were declaring their Christianity through this portrayal???
 

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You think they were declaring their Christianity through this portrayal???
That is precisely what is happening in all these churches flying the LGBTQ+ flags and having openly gay and lesbian pastors and transgenders giving the sermon. There are many pretending to be in churches proclaiming that the Bible is sexist and out of date and saying they don't have to keep this word or that word or some other word in the Bible.

When they ask people on the street what they thought the common sentiment was "inclusive". Yes, definitely what was meant.
 

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To go to this extent with this in the Olympic games shows how close it is to the New Age Christ/antichrist, appearing.

For the closer it is the more blatant their Luciferian showing is out and the Olympic games is a good place to display it for it involves the nations.

Also it lets you know how much the nations governments are involved.

The United Nations has been operating since 1945 to work for peace on earth so eventually they will get to this point.

Which the United Nations supports new age organizations.

The new age believes aliens will help mankind to have peace, and advance, which is why we hear so much on the internet telling us aliens exist.

Which they believe Lucifer is a god, and an alien, that gave mankind intelligence, and will cause people to evolve along with the New Age Christ.

They do not believe Lucifer is a fallen angel for they do not believe in a personal God especially one of that magnitude.

The world is a power struggle, and has been pushing for power and control for thousands of years between the nations, ethnic groups, and genders.

Oh those white people, oh those black people, oh those men, oh those women, oh this group, oh that group, but their group acts the same, and wants the same.

Because arrogance does not care about its faults, but it wants to dog out, and belittle, and does not care about truth, or facts, but it wants to exalt itself.

The Woke movement is just another group dogging people saying they are better, and they cry they are not accepting of us, and exclusive, all the while they dog out, and mock, and are exclusive themselves.

They are mean spirited, and hateful, a product of the 1960's counter culture movement that caused the behavior in society that made them insecure, and have low self esteem, so they do not feel important in society, and a nobody, so they operate from that stance.

The same as with the so called Karens that want to lash out at people that they view as selfish, arrogant, self centered, do not care about her feelings, but only care about themselves.

American society caused the Woke movement, and Karens.

They created the monster and now they want to cry about the monster.

Americans fight, and belittle each other, and exalt themselves, and the internet is ground zero.

The politicians fight, and belittle each other, testifying that the general attitude in America is fighting, belittling, and individual exaltation.

Husbands and wives, men and women, parents and children, students and teachers, politicians, cannot get along, and in general all around rooten tooten fighting.

But the Woke movement makes me laugh saying do not mock us all the while mocking others, do not be exclusive but they are exclusive, do not be hateful but they are hateful, we should have the freedom to be how we want to be all the while not respecting the freedom of those that oppose them all the while they oppose them.

But the new age movement had a hand in the 1960's counter culture movement to get them away from the 1950's attitude which is the second wave of feminism popular person .

This gave birth to the Woke movement which they will accept the new age movement.

The beam around that one transgender's head could be a reference to Lucifer at the wrongful display of the last supper.

But they are acknowledging the new age Jesus which some believe he was born a woman and transgendered to be a man which is a trick of the devil to pervert them, and to get them away from the truth of the Bible, and to accept the new age interpretation.

But the Woke movement will fall hard which the nations governments will come together believing that aliens will help mankind to have peace, advance, and evolve, which they talk about the return of the gods, and go against all people that oppose them which God will end their folly.

Like at the flood when they corrupted God's ways on earth of love, and violence filled the earth, and the imaginations of their heart was evil continually.

It is time for God to end sin on earth.

The new age movement is the beginning of the end and it
 

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The French are very brave for mocking Christians but not Muslims.
So so brave.
In fact, I googled their military victories and this is what came up.

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the internet is ground zero.
It is time for God to end sin on earth

Just a couple highlights vs. quoting everything.

How much are you involved on the internet and how do you stay out of the fray?

Do you have a range of time in mind as to when God ends sin on the earth?
 

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I've not looked around much. Do you know how Muslims are responding to the ceremony?
Muslims usually forgive.
For example when a French journalist at Charlie Hebdo made fun of Muhammad, the Muslims in France forgave them, they didn’t kill them.
 

studier

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Muslims usually forgive.
For example when a French journalist at Charlie Hebdo made fun of Muhammad, the Muslims in France forgave them, they didn’t kill them.
Wasn't that after some level of uprising and death threats?