God's Sovereign LAW

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Hey @RodB651 someone's playing your song!

enoth: to explain, "taxation is theft" is one of Rod's favorite catchphrases.
I'd qualify that catch phrase. Extorted tax is theft. Voluntary purchase taxes are Godly. Forcing the INNOCENT to pay yearly EXTORTION fees for owning vehicles, guns, and other property is organized CRIME.

The term “extortion” means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official RIGHT or pretense of official RIGHT.
18 U.S. Code § 872.Extortion by officers or employees of the United States
Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; but if the amount so extorted or demanded does not exceed $1,000, he shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
(b)As used in this section—
(2) The term “extortion” means the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.

Any attempt to threaten the INNOCENT defendant with more EXTORTION, KIDNAPPING, or imprisonment, the court and its State employees will be held accountable to the codecs listed below:
  1. 18 U.S. Code § 872 – Government EXTORTION up to 3 years.
  1. 18 U.S. Code § 1951 – Organizations that Interfere with commerce with threats of violence which the State is doing with Blue Mound Transport. Up to 10 years.
  1. 18 U.S. Code § 1961 – Organizations that EXTORT involving or the threat of KIDNAPPING. Up to 20 years.
 

Lynx

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I see... Now it is clear why you started this thread.

Well it is what it is, and neither you nor I will change it any time soon.

Your options are pretty simple.
- Move to a different country.
- Don't own any of those things you don't like the taxes on.
- Do own them and pay taxes on them.
- Do own them and pay taxes on them, but complain a lot about it.
- Do own them, refuse to pay taxes on them and suffer the consequences.

Whatever you choose, be aware that nothing anybody says in this forum thread will change anything about any taxes anywhere in the country or the world.
 

Soyeong

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God's LAW is our God given RIGHTS. Ordinances, codecs, rules, etcetera are man-made not God given LAW/RIGHTS. Man-made rules are created to punish those that violate God's LAW, our RIGHTS. A commandment is very similar but very specific. Do not murder, do not steal, do not covet your neighbors wife, etcetera. If you follow God's LAW you need no commandments.
I showed that all of the Law of Moses is the Law of God, so there are no man-made rules in the OT.
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus Yeshua teaches us about taxes to pay them so as not to offend those who do the taxing.
 
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I see... Now it is clear why you started this thread.

Well it is what it is, and neither you nor I will change it any time soon.

Your options are pretty simple.
- Move to a different country.
- Don't own any of those things you don't like the taxes on.
- Do own them and pay taxes on them.
- Do own them and pay taxes on them, but complain a lot about it.
- Do own them, refuse to pay taxes on them and suffer the consequences.

Whatever you choose, be aware that nothing anybody says in this forum thread will change anything about any taxes anywhere in the country or the world.
I have one option. To follow God's LAW and do as God commands and visit Nineveh and hope God's People hear His voice. The options that are presented are the options of man's laws.
 
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I showed that all of the Law of Moses is the Law of God, so there are no man-made rules in the OT.
We are to obey the ordinances of man until they violate the LAW of God. When those who govern have an ordinance that requires us to rob the INNOCENT or murder Jews and the unborn, then those ordinances violate the LAW of God which are the RIGHTS he bestowed upon us at our creation. There are no man-made LAWS, just ordinances that are to be used to punish those that violate God's LAW.

"1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake:" especially if it says to rob or murder your neighbor.
 

Lynx

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We are to obey the ordinances of man until they violate the LAW of God. When those who govern have an ordinance that requires us to rob the INNOCENT or murder Jews and the unborn, then those ordinances violate the LAW of God which are the RIGHTS he bestowed upon us at our creation. There are no man-made LAWS, just ordinances that are to be used to punish those that violate God's LAW.

"1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake:" especially if it says to rob or murder your neighbor.
That puts a different complexion on it.

Now you're trying to make it sound like it is sinful to pay the taxes you disagree with. That's something entirely different. Also something very wrong.
 
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That puts a different complexion on it.

Now you're trying to make it sound like it is sinful to pay the taxes you disagree with. That's something entirely different. Also something very wrong.
You pay taxes on what you voluntarily purchase. Forced payments and calling it a tax is EXTORTION.
  1. 18 U.S. Code § 872 – Government EXTORTION, 3 years.
  2. 18 U.S. Code § 1951 – Organizations that Interfere with commerce with threats of violence which the State is doing with Blue Mound Transport, 10 years.
  3. 18 U.S. Code § 1961 – Organizations that EXTORT involving or the threat of KIDNAPPING, 20 years.
You've bought into mans "laws", ordinances, instead of God's LAW for taxes. You are trying to make it sound like it is not sinful to EXTORT the INNOCENT. You follow the ordinances until they violate God's given RIGHTS. Forcing payments for owning cars, guns, homes, etcetera is a violation of God's LAW.
 

Lynx

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You pay taxes on what you voluntarily purchase. Forced payments and calling it a tax is EXTORTION.
  1. 18 U.S. Code § 872 – Government EXTORTION, 3 years.
  2. 18 U.S. Code § 1951 – Organizations that Interfere with commerce with threats of violence which the State is doing with Blue Mound Transport, 10 years.
  3. 18 U.S. Code § 1961 – Organizations that EXTORT involving or the threat of KIDNAPPING, 20 years.
You've bought into mans "laws", ordinances, instead of God's LAW for taxes. You are trying to make it sound like it is not sinful to EXTORT the INNOCENT. You follow the ordinances until they violate God's given RIGHTS. Forcing payments for owning cars, guns, homes, etcetera is a violation of God's LAW.
That's different again. That's THEIR sin, not MINE.

We are to obey the ordinances of man until they violate the LAW of God. When those who govern have an ordinance that requires us to rob the INNOCENT or murder Jews and the unborn, then those ordinances violate the LAW of God which are the RIGHTS he bestowed upon us at our creation. There are no man-made LAWS, just ordinances that are to be used to punish those that violate God's LAW.

"1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake:" especially if it says to rob or murder your neighbor.
This post makes it sound like it is OUR sin if we pay those taxes.
 
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That's different again. That's THEIR sin, not MINE.


This post makes it sound like it is OUR sin if we pay those taxes.
There's no sound in my posts. It is a sin to EXTORT the INNOCENT. It is the duty of every Christian to enforce God's LAW. Not sure why you want to put sounds or words in my replies. Me thinks you protests to much. I want every true believer to fully know God's LAW so that the INNOCENT aren't being raped by those who write their own ordinances that authorize themselves to exploit the INNOCENT.

I'd like to have iron sharpen iron but not if you keep making assertions as to what I'm saying, when you could just ask.

Rape: Websters dictionary
2: an outrageous violation of God's given RIGHTS.
3: an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force, kidnapping.

The man of God cannot be offended. The man of men is always offended.
 

Lynx

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And the man of the forum rolls his eyes and walks away from yet another concert of grinding axes.
 
Jan 9, 2024
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And the man of the forum rolls his eyes and walks away from yet another concert of grinding axes.
Sure, I'm not a fan nor am I interested in Christian Karens and Darrens grinding axes. I enjoy 2 knives sharpening each other, instead of the grinder being offended by the blade. Good luck on your religious journey.