Dan 9:25 7 weeks & 62 weeks

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Lets see

God called the temple that the jewish sinners where making a mockery of his fathers house.

And he also said when he returns, It will be his house (the house he rules in)

so you tell me..
Where does he say when He returns its His house? I have read the Bible quite a bit, and ive never seen a single verse that states Jesus returns to some antichrist temple and calls it His fathers? Jesus said your house is left to you desolate. It was the Father's house, then it was their house, now its no one's house lol. Its done my friend, no physical temple will ever be considered the temple of God, Jesus is the true temple and those who are in Christ are a part of that living temple.
 
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Reconsider it. We are still under the law of Moses if thats the case.
Actually this is in error

God gave his promise to them through the abrahamic covenant, not the mosaic covenant.

Thats why it still stands

1 Abrahamic is an I will covenant,
2. God said I WILL to isreal. forever
3. Forever sill exists. so the promise still stands

IT was an eternal covenant as well, yet Hebrews 8 tells us its obsolete and as we know it passed away in AD70 with the destruction of the temple.

I do agree with you they were blinded in part. But why does the future salvation of jews have something to do with the 70 weeks of Daniel is what I am missing.
If we look to the OT prophets. we see that Israel will reject God. and God will give what was theirs to the gentiles (the church)
but after a time, Israel will repent. and God will give it back to them. in fact he said, when this happens, The son of David will rule from their land and in their temple.

We are told this time occurs at the end of the 70 weeks.

also the 70 weeks. For YOUR PEOPLE. for YOUR HOLY CITY (Israel)

to make an end of sin - Israel will repent of her sin of rejecting God and receive her messiah)
to finish transgression - She will again repent, and not play with her idols. and turn from her sins.
to bring in everlasting righteousness. The OT prophet said at this time israel will not sin her sins anymore. and they will all fpllow God. non of them will need to be taught, because they all know

and to anoint the most Holy - The messiah came first to die for the sin of the world. the next time he comes, he will come as king.

He comes at the end of the 70th week. to destroy the final gentile ruler (the antichrist)

I can go over the other prophecies if you would like
 
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Where does he say when He returns its His house? I have read the Bible quite a bit, and ive never seen a single verse that states Jesus returns to some antichrist temple and calls it His fathers? Jesus said your house is left to you desolate. It was the Father's house, then it was their house, now its no one's house lol. Its done my friend, no physical temple will ever be considered the temple of God, Jesus is the true temple and those who are in Christ are a part of that living temple.
Antichrist temple? Lets see. The antichrist places an abomination which causes desolation in that temple.

So it was not his temple to begin with.

Also.. Again in dan 9

70 weeks are determined for your people and your holy city

the Temple is part of that holy city..
 

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I myself could never believe in being a Preterist saying the events in Revelations ad the resurrection were already fulfilled.

Even Apostle Paul made comment about those who believe the resurrection was already fulfilled in 2 Tim 2: 17-18

Among them are Hymenae′us and Phile′tus, 18 who have swerved from the truth by holding that the resurrection is past already. They are upsetting the faith of some.
 
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He comes at the end of the 70th week. to destroy the final gentile ruler (the antichrist)

I can go over the other prophecies if you would like
Thank you. From what I understand the only place that talks about the 70 weeks is Daniel 9 and nothing is said of the final gentile ruler, nothing is said of a gap between the 69th and 70th week. It seems to run in a straight line. The prince who destroyed the city would obviously be in AD70 no? Wasnt the sacrifices stopped when the temple was destroyed?

I just have no reason to put this in to the future do I?

Well, if I see a third temple built and the sacrifices resume, only to be stopped by some ruler, I know we are in some serious fulfillment here! So I will keep my eyes open and be open to this idea that it could be future as well
 

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And besides what I stated in post #44 Paul gives a warning to those who believe in such nonsense as wickedness.

2 Tim. 2:19 But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let every one who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”
 
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Thank you. From what I understand the only place that talks about the 70 weeks is Daniel 9 and nothing is said of the final gentile ruler, nothing is said of a gap between the 69th and 70th week. It seems to run in a straight line. The prince who destroyed the city would obviously be in AD70 no? Wasnt the sacrifices stopped when the temple was destroyed?
thank you for giving me the opportunity to share more.

Its actually in the text. Everything, including the gap.

Dan 9:
“Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times.


1. seven weeks plus 62 weeks = 69 weeks (69 periods of 7 years - or 480 years according to the Jewish calendar)
2. In this time, the only thing we are told will happen is that the street and the wall of Jerusalem will be built again, even in troublesome times, and this was true. they were rebuilt while Israel were slaves to gentile kings (Media Persia - then became Greece and we saw the first Abomination of desolation by Antiochus epiphanies, and finally, we had Rome up until Jesus day)
3. At the end of this 69 weeks. messiah the prince is introduced to Jerusalem as king. just as the prophet said he would

Zechariah 9:9
The Coming King
“Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey.

we call this palm Sunday now I believe.

so at this point 69 weeks are completed. so lets continue

26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

1. Immediately after the 69th week, messiah is killed (this happened the next weekend)
2. The next even occures almost 40 years late. the events of 70 AD when Titus and his armies leveled Jerusalem. and wiped out the city, so severe was this that the historian Josephus said those who saw it could not even tall a city was even there.
3. Even if you say Jesus died in the begining of the 70th week. The destruction of the city is long after the 70th week would have ended.
4. It says in the passage, the city will be left desolate for a period of time which is undetermined (actually it says they are determined, but only God knows)
5. This desolations and wars have continued until today, and we see it even today with the wars in the middle east over this very land. which remains desolate.

lets continue

27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”

1. Who is he, to find out we need to go back to vs 26, which says and the people of the PRINCE WHO IS TO COME. So he is a future prince, and the people is Rome, or what we call today Europe
2. He confirms some covenant for 1 week. (the 70th week begins at this time - the only issue is what covenant? It does not say, about the only thing we can assume is it maybe has something to do with the temple. as in the middle of this 7 year period he breaks his own covenant by entering the temple.
3. When he enters, he places the abomination which causes desolation. which is spoken of By Jesus in Matt 24. telling the people when you see this think stand in the holy place. RUN.
4. Finally, we see this desolation will continue for another period of time, which is said to be the sonsumation being poured out on the desolate. Jesus called this the great tribulation. so severe. he will put an end to it himself otherwise no flesh would survive. (which was impossible in Jesus day by the way)

so as we see. the gap is in the text. Granted, before messiah was killed and jerusalem destroyed no one could see the GAP. but that was on purpose. It is part of the hidden mystery, used to keep satan at Bay, because if Satan knew the truth, he would have stopped the crucifiction. which is why there are no many gaps in prophecy in the OT. which is opened up to us in the church.


I just have no reason to put this in to the future do I?
I just gave you one,m of many reasons to put it in the future. Like I said, I can share more.

Well, if I see a third temple built and the sacrifices resume, only to be stopped by some ruler, I know we are in some serious fulfillment here! So I will keep my eyes open and be open to this idea that it could be future as well
We all need to do this, Amen.. Many believe God will rapture the church before this happens. I am not too sure. I used to believe this, but now am not sure.. But that is why God tells us these things, so we can know the time is near. and use this to spread the word and bring others to christ. and to prepare ourselves for what may happen.
 
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thank you for giving me the opportunity to share more.

Its actually in the text. Everything, including the gap.

Dan 9:
“Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times.


1. seven weeks plus 62 weeks = 69 weeks (69 periods of 7 years - or 480 years according to the Jewish calendar)
2. In this time, the only thing we are told will happen is that the street and the wall of Jerusalem will be built again, even in troublesome times, and this was true. they were rebuilt while Israel were slaves to gentile kings (Media Persia - then became Greece and we saw the first Abomination of desolation by Antiochus epiphanies, and finally, we had Rome up until Jesus day)
3. At the end of this 69 weeks. messiah the prince is introduced to Jerusalem as king. just as the prophet said he would

Zechariah 9:9
The Coming King
“Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey.

we call this palm Sunday now I believe.

so at this point 69 weeks are completed. so lets continue

26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

1. Immediately after the 69th week, messiah is killed (this happened the next weekend)
2. The next even occures almost 40 years late. the events of 70 AD when Titus and his armies leveled Jerusalem. and wiped out the city, so severe was this that the historian Josephus said those who saw it could not even tall a city was even there.
3. Even if you say Jesus died in the begining of the 70th week. The destruction of the city is long after the 70th week would have ended.
4. It says in the passage, the city will be left desolate for a period of time which is undetermined (actually it says they are determined, but only God knows)
5. This desolations and wars have continued until today, and we see it even today with the wars in the middle east over this very land. which remains desolate.

lets continue

27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”

1. Who is he, to find out we need to go back to vs 26, which says and the people of the PRINCE WHO IS TO COME. So he is a future prince, and the people is Rome, or what we call today Europe
2. He confirms some covenant for 1 week. (the 70th week begins at this time - the only issue is what covenant? It does not say, about the only thing we can assume is it maybe has something to do with the temple. as in the middle of this 7 year period he breaks his own covenant by entering the temple.
3. When he enters, he places the abomination which causes desolation. which is spoken of By Jesus in Matt 24. telling the people when you see this think stand in the holy place. RUN.
4. Finally, we see this desolation will continue for another period of time, which is said to be the sonsumation being poured out on the desolate. Jesus called this the great tribulation. so severe. he will put an end to it himself otherwise no flesh would survive. (which was impossible in Jesus day by the way)

so as we see. the gap is in the text. Granted, before messiah was killed and jerusalem destroyed no one could see the GAP. but that was on purpose. It is part of the hidden mystery, used to keep satan at Bay, because if Satan knew the truth, he would have stopped the crucifiction. which is why there are no many gaps in prophecy in the OT. which is opened up to us in the church.



I just gave you one,m of many reasons to put it in the future. Like I said, I can share more.



We all need to do this, Amen.. Many believe God will rapture the church before this happens. I am not too sure. I used to believe this, but now am not sure.. But that is why God tells us these things, so we can know the time is near. and use this to spread the word and bring others to christ. and to prepare ourselves for what may happen.
Thank you. I will pray about this and do more research. Maybe I haven't been thorough enough in my eschatology and have come to sloppy conclusions. Perhaps my own ideas have hypnotized me to think that its all done we're just waiting for Jesus to come back any moment now, for the resurrection. That can happen, but as the Bible teaches lets cast down all imaginations and strongholds even when it comes to this subject. May God guide me to the correct view of this as well, and all the rest of you reading too!

Im a pan-tribulationist when it comes to the rapture, whatever pans out i'll take it. Although I must say that I believe both partial preterism and pre-trib rapture have one thing in common that I dislike. Which is the idea of two comings, in the pre-trib rapture Jesus comes first for the church then with the church, in partial preterism Jesus came once to destroy Jerusalem and will come again on the last day. I believe the system that has one singular coming is most likely to be correct, or otherwise we end up guessing which coming is being spoken of and I would contend that the people who received these letters imagined a singular second coming.

Very great point about the gap and keeping satan at bay. Very smart. I know of one example like this gap as well, when Jesus quoted the passage about acceptable year of the Lord and said this has now been fulfilled, He quoted the first part of the verse but the second part is yet to be fulfilled, the day of vengeance. Isn't that fascinating? One sentence divided in a way that there is atleast two thousand years in between. God works in the big picture.

Could you tell me the verse that mentions Jesus coming to "His house"? I would struggle with the idea of going back to the old covenant ways of animal sacrifices and levitical priesthoods, when we have a better eternal priesthood of the Melchizedek order.
 
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Although I must say that I believe both partial preterism and pre-trib rapture have one thing in common that I dislike. Which is the idea of two comings
This is a common mistake. A "coming" by definition means that the Lord Jesus Christ descends TO EARTH with all His saints and angels. But at the Resurrection/Rapture he comes "in the air" momentarily and then returns to Heaven with all His saints. Read 1 Thessalonians 4 again.
 
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This is a common mistake. A "coming" by definition means that the Lord Jesus Christ descends TO EARTH with all His saints and angels. But at the Resurrection/Rapture he comes "in the air" momentarily and then returns to Heaven with all His saints. Read 1 Thessalonians 4 again.
I did and it says those who are alive and remain to His........... coming.
 
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I did and it says those who are alive and remain to His........... coming.
I'm not sure what you mean but that passage shows ALL the saints being taken up at the same time. And 1 Corinthians 15 confirms this. So what this mean is that while the saints who have passed on will receive their resurrected glorified bodies, the saints who are alive at that time will also be transformed and raptured with them. Hence it is the Resurrection/Rapture, not just the Rapture. And most commentators do not address this at all.
 
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Thank you. I will pray about this and do more research. Maybe I haven't been thorough enough in my eschatology and have come to sloppy conclusions. Perhaps my own ideas have hypnotized me to think that its all done we're just waiting for Jesus to come back any moment now, for the resurrection. That can happen, but as the Bible teaches lets cast down all imaginations and strongholds even when it comes to this subject. May God guide me to the correct view of this as well, and all the rest of you reading too!

Im a pan-tribulationist when it comes to the rapture, whatever pans out i'll take it. Although I must say that I believe both partial preterism and pre-trib rapture have one thing in common that I dislike. Which is the idea of two comings, in the pre-trib rapture Jesus comes first for the church then with the church, in partial preterism Jesus came once to destroy Jerusalem and will come again on the last day. I believe the system that has one singular coming is most likely to be correct, or otherwise we end up guessing which coming is being spoken of and I would contend that the people who received these letters imagined a singular second coming.

Very great point about the gap and keeping satan at bay. Very smart. I know of one example like this gap as well, when Jesus quoted the passage about acceptable year of the Lord and said this has now been fulfilled, He quoted the first part of the verse but the second part is yet to be fulfilled, the day of vengeance. Isn't that fascinating? One sentence divided in a way that there is atleast two thousand years in between. God works in the big picture.
Love that example of Jesus reading from the scroll. I use it often to prove the concept of a gap. which then can be taken to other prophecies also.

As for pre-trib, It is one of my hold ups also. Except one must remember, Jesus does not actually return to earth. It says we meet him in the clouds..

it then says at the end when Christ returns, we return with him, while he also gathers the elect from the 4 corners of the earth (the living) and the rest will remain for 1000 years.. which is when they will be resurrected..

Its one of those where I say we will know when it happens. until then, the best we can do is guess..

Could you tell me the verse that mentions Jesus coming to "His house"? I would struggle with the idea of going back to the old covenant ways of animal sacrifices and levitical priesthoods, when we have a better eternal priesthood of the Melchizedek order.
I will try

Zech 14.. concerning the King -
16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. 18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 19 This shall be the [i]punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

1. Everyone will come to Jerusalem
2. They will worship. where were Jesus be?
3. The feast of tabernacles - a celebration of God rescuing them fro, Egypt.. Only this time, I think the world will celebrate the rescue from the world. and the death we deserved.. via the cross.

also, we see in the davidic covenant, that the son of david would be established forever.. This is through the christ or anointed one, or the messiah.. And he will rule from the house built For God.. or the temple
 
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Hey @Hakawaka

As to there being more than one return of Jesus, there actually is. He will come in the clouds, which I see as a return at least to the earthly realm, to call those who are the Father's children to be removed. However, that is not the same time spoken of when his feet stand atop the Mount of Olives and Kidron Valley. Nor, I don't believe, is that a description of his reign with us on the earth for 1,000 years after God's wrath has been dispensed upon the remaining wicked.

As far as Daniel's 70 weeks, I believe that there are three divisions. The first two follow one after the other, but the last not necessarily so. I believe the division of the first two, the 7 and 62 sevens, is to allow that the prophecy being made of the rebuilding of the city is one of the measuring sticks. The first 7 sevens ended when the city was rebuilt. It took Israel some 40 years to complete the city and temple mount. It also was built in troublous times according to the account of the event in the Scriptures. So the first group of sevens covers that period.

Then the next group, the 62 sevens, begins immediately after the first 7 sevens expire and they speak of Messiah being cut off. According to some pretty studious theologians, the date of the end of that second span of sevens ended on crucifixion week. It actually allows that the 62 sevens end AND THEN Messiah is cut off. So there is still one seven left to go.

Nothing of any real match happened in the seven years immediately after the Messiah gets cut off. So it has to be a break. In the seven years immediately after Jesus' sacrifice. We have no Scriptural or historical account of anything like what is described as being the goings on of the last seven. Now yes, some will say that it was picked up and ended in 70 A.D. or thereabouts and the destruction was the Jewish temple and city by the Romans. I don't agree because a lot of the other stuff that we're told will be going on in the last seven period didn't happen then.

God bless,
Ted
 

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I will pray about this and do more research.
In general - a good idea - but, be careful in/with your research - especially if you plan to read other people's opinions.

Maybe I haven't been thorough enough in my eschatology and have come to sloppy conclusions.
Most folks seem to simply believe what they are taught - without making a personal "deep dive" study into eschatology. And, because there is a tremendous amount of readily-available erroneous ideas to influence them, they can all-to-easily come to some sloppy conclusions.

My advice - stick to the simple straight-forward approach to scripture. Don't get carried away by overly-complex ideas - God did not make it that complicated.

Way too many people go out of their way to "twist" scripture instead of simply believing what it says in a straight-forward manner. They "invent" things - like gaps where there are none, for example. And, multiple comings of Christ - rather than the two comings the Bible tells us about - the First Coming of Christ and the Second Coming of Christ.

Perhaps my own ideas have hypnotized me to think that its all done we're just waiting for Jesus to come back any moment now, for the resurrection.
A few things are still yet to occur before Jesus "shows up on the scene" - the last one, we call the Two Witnesses.

From what I can tell, you are ahead of and more "on track" than most in this thread so far - many of them could certainly learn some things from you...

In other words, they have a greater need to learn from you than you have to learn from them.

Again - be careful...
 
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In general - a good idea - but, be careful in/with your research - especially if you plan to read other people's opinions.


Most folks seem to simply believe what they are taught - without making a personal "deep dive" study into eschatology. And, because there is a tremendous amount of readily-available erroneous ideas to influence them, they can all-to-easily come to some sloppy conclusions.

My advice - stick to the simple straight-forward approach to scripture. Don't get carried away by overly-complex ideas - God did not make it that complicated.

Way too many people go out of their way to "twist" scripture instead of simply believing what it says in a straight-forward manner. They "invent" things - like gaps where there are none, for example. And, multiple comings of Christ - rather than the two comings the Bible tells us about - the First Coming of Christ and the Second Coming of Christ.


A few things are still yet to occur before Jesus "shows up on the scene" - the last one, we call the Two Witnesses.

From what I can tell, you are ahead of and more "on track" than most in this thread so far - many of them could certainly learn some things from you...

In other words, they have a greater need to learn from you than you have to learn from them.

Again - be careful...
Let me take a look at your website. Thanks for the positive feedback. I will always try to be honest with the Scriptures and try to interpret everything in the light of the new covenant we are in
 

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Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. KJV

“Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. NIV

Can anyone explain the two comings and the time?
IMHO the translations you have here are poor.

What the text actually says IMHO is -
25 Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until an anointed one, a fore-runner (John the Baptist) comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall the Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the tribe of the fore-runner that shall come (John the Baptist, a Levite) shall cause to be destroyed the city and the sanctuary (through their rejection of Christ and continuing to sacrifice animals) and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27And he (the Messiah) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease ( by dying as the perpetual sacrifice once for all), and for the overspreading of abominations (continuing animal sacrifices denying the Saviour) he (Christ) shall make it (the temple, Ichabod, the glory has departed) desolate, even until the consummation (of the 490 years ending at the murder of Stephen and the gospel then being taken beyond Judah), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate (Titus destroys the God-forsaken temple).
 
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Its done my friend, no physical temple will ever be considered the temple of God...
Actually "the temple of God" is a generic term for the temple in Jerusalem regardless of whether it is being used prperly or whether it is being polluted and desecrated.

So while the Second Temple was being polluted during the earthly ministry of Christ, He still regarded it as the temple of God. And that is why He said this: And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. (John 2:16)

That is also why Paul -- when prophesied about a future temple which would be desecrated by the Antichrist -- he called it "the temple of God" -- Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thess 2:4)

And that is also why the apostle John called the same future temple "the temple of God": And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. (Rev 11:1)
 

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Actually "the temple of God" is a generic term for the temple in Jerusalem regardless of whether it is being used prperly or whether it is being polluted and desecrated.

So while the Second Temple was being polluted during the earthly ministry of Christ, He still regarded it as the temple of God. And that is why He said this: And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. (John 2:16)

That is also why Paul -- when prophesied about a future temple which would be desecrated by the Antichrist -- he called it "the temple of God" -- Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thess 2:4)

And that is also why the apostle John called the same future temple "the temple of God": And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. (Rev 11:1)
There seems to be a lot of circular reasoning and question begging going on there.

You are assuming 2 Thess. 2:4 and Rev. 11:1 are referring to an inanimate physical building, and then asserting that because they do, all references to "the temple of God" are incontrovertibly allusions to an inanimate physical building.