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bobby34

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my 15yr was caught steal in a store. The owner of the store knew him and me so he called me up and told me about it. I came down to the store yesterday And paid for the item. A history book on comics. He did not call the cops, and I thanked him for that. I took my son home and gave him a long hard bare bottom spanking with the paddle. making sure he would not sit down for a while and he even slept on his bellie last night naked. He is grounded until further notice.

Now I feel guilt, did I do the right thing?
 
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I say don't worry about it, just think of how it will help his soul. Also think about how God thinks that it will help his soul...Teach your child about how much worse hell and jail is, and that it was for his own good that you did it. Teach him about the fact that thieves will not go to heaven.

If he feels bitter towards you, just tell him that you are sorry and that it was for his own good.
If you feel it was too severe, just apologize, tell him that you love him, and you want him to be a better person.
 
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Rachel777

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You did good.

2 Samuel 7:14 says : I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men, with floggings inflicted by men.

Giving him a couple of floggings it's okay,but not in excess.
God teach us love.the most important thing is teach him what is wrong and what is good , teach him about the consecuences of his actions and above all about what happen with sinners and thieves according Bible.

God Bless You.
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shekaniah

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I will be praying that God speaks to both of your hearts. Let him know that you did it out of love for him. You care about the man he will become.

Hebrews 12:10 Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness.
 
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needmesomejesus

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my 15yr was caught steal in a store. The owner of the store knew him and me so he called me up and told me about it. I came down to the store yesterday And paid for the item. A history book on comics. He did not call the cops, and I thanked him for that. I took my son home and gave him a long hard bare bottom spanking with the paddle. making sure he would not sit down for a while and he even slept on his bellie last night naked. He is grounded until further notice.

Now I feel guilt, did I do the right thing?

Wow :/ Sounds like a bad situation for both of you. He didn't make the best decision by stealing, but I don't think spanking him on the bare was the best decision either. I mean he's 15 there are so many other things that would probably work better. I know for me my parents caught me drinking so they removed everything out of my room except my bed; trust me that never happened again. Just talk to your son and be honest and let him know how much you love him despite what he does.
 
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sloppy3

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I'd say you handled this very badly - i'm sorry

You beat a 15 year old so that he could not sit down? You ought to be thankfull he has not had you arrested for assault!, Or worse, made him turn on you instead.

Teaching a teenager with violence will only instill in him that misdemeanors must be met with a disproportionally violent response.

If it were my son, I would have taken him to the police station, no questions. He could have had them give him the short sharp shock of seeing the cells etc - a timely reminder of his obligations to society.

You doling out violence did not teach him responsibility, which should come from social awareness, not fear of pain.

You need to seriously reconsider your approach
 
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Seek biblical counseling on this one, Brother. Not worldly opinion.

I wouldn't say you handle this badly, for the bible do tells us how we to handle such things with our children. Although i would want to hit my kid, i wouldn't not do it, if it's called for.

Each one of us, may have our own way of handling this situation. But seeking biblical counseling rather then worldly opinion, would be the best answer for you. Let no man, condemn.
 
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stealing is wrong even if you don't get cought God does not like theifs but as for the beating that was uncalled for i suggest al privalages taken away till further notice
 
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Tobby17

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I'd say you handled this very badly - i'm sorry

You beat a 15 year old so that he could not sit down? You ought to be thankfull he has not had you arrested for assault!, Or worse, made him turn on you instead.

Teaching a teenager with violence will only instill in him that misdemeanors must be met with a disproportionally violent response.

If it were my son, I would have taken him to the police station, no questions. He could have had them give him the short sharp shock of seeing the cells etc - a timely reminder of his obligations to society.

You doling out violence did not teach him responsibility, which should come from social awareness, not fear of pain.

You need to seriously reconsider your approach
Hellooooooo,come to Nigeria and try stealing something that is not up to a dollar, and you'd get burned life and direct, no films!!!.. I mean it, you'd get BURNED!!!!!.... It's your terrible law in Europe that says you shouldn't beat your children, you should beat them!.. Really, some children need it.. The DEVIL in the heart of Children needs to be beaten out and it's simple!, no matter how harsh it sounds.. I've been beaten a lot of times.. I REPEAT.. A LOT OF TIMES!!!.. And it hasn't killed me, has it?..It's actually taught me a lot unlike what you said!!.. I'm not dead, i'm still replying this thread am i not?
 

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Spare the rod and spoil the child. I believe in captiol punishment, but as far as the severity, that is between you and GOD and your son. Your consicence plays a roll. But I agree with Biggiestomp. Use scripure and go to GOD. There will be the answer for you.
 
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In my opinion you beat the child too severely. I used to get beat by my father that way and it has caused me to become socially inept, fearful of people, easily offended, afraid to stand up for myself, and quick tempered. Is that how you want your child to be when he grows up?

Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them. Rather, bring them up with the discipline and instruction that comes from the Lord. - Ephesians 6:4 NLT
 
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Also, 15 is too old for spanking. You will make him feel very immasculated and ashamed among his friends.

I still suffer from very low self-esteem and deep insecurities because of how i was treated as a child. Don't do the same thing to your boy.
 
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Ugly

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Umm.. yeah, i bet if the state heard what you did, your kid would be taken from you and you'd be investigated for child abuse. That's not an appropriate age for spanking. Chances are he feels degraded, humiliated and angry... more than he feels regret. When you discipline a child the consequence should not be so over the top as they forget their wrongs and focus on the wrong you're doing to them. Punishment of any kind should never be given in anger. My parents handled things great when i did something wrong, they would initially give me the scolding i deserved, haha, then send me to my room. They would calm down, discuss my punishment, and then come in and tell me, or spank. Of course spankings stopped before i was a teen. And when i was spanked it was never done while they were still angry. And it was never so bad i had to sleep on my stomach naked. When you take it that far, you aren't punishing the child, you're taking your anger out on them.
Yes, the bible say spare the rod spoil the child, but that does not mean hitting or beating your child out of anger and leaving bruises, or making it so painful they can't even touch that spot hours later. Or that clothes are painful. Thats just mean and abusive.
Also, a major part of discipline most parents miss is the last part. The reassurance to the child that despite their failings, and though you had to punish them, they are no less loved or cared for. People think true discipline ends with the punishment, when it should actually end with a hug and an 'i love you'.
 
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Bobbyking

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Hi Bobby

I encourage you to spend time with him. A 15 yr old boy has a lot of influence (good and bad) from friends and media. You need to know him more. Give him opportunity to talk, listen to him. Learn to recognize his life values, his inspirations, his needs and goals. Pick an activity where both of you can do together and enjoy doing. (Sports activity is great).

And start a simple bible reading with him, at least once a week. Or Simply read the Bible together (Gospels for a start), read aloud, you take 3 verses, he takes 3 verses, .. just two of you... Father and son. Let the Holy Spirit minister to him through the word.

He needs a role model, and he have one at home... you.

Hope the above helps.
 
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kayem77

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Umm.. yeah, i bet if the state heard what you did, your kid would be taken from you and you'd be investigated for child abuse. That's not an appropriate age for spanking. Chances are he feels degraded, humiliated and angry... more than he feels regret. When you discipline a child the consequence should not be so over the top as they forget their wrongs and focus on the wrong you're doing to them. Punishment of any kind should never be given in anger. My parents handled things great when i did something wrong, they would initially give me the scolding i deserved, haha, then send me to my room. They would calm down, discuss my punishment, and then come in and tell me, or spank. Of course spankings stopped before i was a teen. And when i was spanked it was never done while they were still angry. And it was never so bad i had to sleep on my stomach naked. When you take it that far, you aren't punishing the child, you're taking your anger out on them.
Yes, the bible say spare the rod spoil the child, but that does not mean hitting or beating your child out of anger and leaving bruises, or making it so painful they can't even touch that spot hours later. Or that clothes are painful. Thats just mean and abusive.
Also, a major part of discipline most parents miss is the last part. The reassurance to the child that despite their failings, and though you had to punish them, they are no less loved or cared for. People think true discipline ends with the punishment, when it should actually end with a hug and an 'i love you'.

I completely agree with you.

Discipline comes out of love, not out of anger, just like God disciplines us. Im sure you wanted to do the right thing, but you took it too far. Although my parents never hit me , they were very hard on me , especially my mom, I never felt loved, I just felt the anger coming out from her. This caused me a lot of problems with myself later, .... I suggest you to talk to your son. He was completely wrong at stealing, but you need a different approach so he doesn't hold resentment towards you .
 
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needmesomejesus

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Hellooooooo,come to Nigeria and try stealing something that is not up to a dollar, and you'd get burned life and direct, no films!!!.. I mean it, you'd get BURNED!!!!!.... It's your terrible law in Europe that says you shouldn't beat your children, you should beat them!.. Really, some children need it.. The DEVIL in the heart of Children needs to be beaten out and it's simple!, no matter how harsh it sounds.. I've been beaten a lot of times.. I REPEAT.. A LOT OF TIMES!!!.. And it hasn't killed me, has it?..It's actually taught me a lot unlike what you said!!.. I'm not dead, i'm still replying this thread am i not?

Just cause Nigeria allows abuse does not mean its right. You can beat the devil out of someone thats totally stupid.
 
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sloppy3

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Hellooooooo,come to Nigeria and try stealing something that is not up to a dollar, and you'd get burned life and direct, no films!!!.. I mean it, you'd get BURNED!!!!!.... It's your terrible law in Europe that says you shouldn't beat your children, you should beat them!.. Really, some children need it.. The DEVIL in the heart of Children needs to be beaten out and it's simple!, no matter how harsh it sounds.. I've been beaten a lot of times.. I REPEAT.. A LOT OF TIMES!!!.. And it hasn't killed me, has it?..It's actually taught me a lot unlike what you said!!.. I'm not dead, i'm still replying this thread am i not?

That's perhaps why Nigeria is one of the most lawless, corrupted places on earth. If my european country is so bad, why do so many people want to come and live here.

I hope you never get a UK visa with your attitude.
 
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sloppy3

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Seek biblical counseling on this one, Brother. Not worldly opinion.

I wouldn't say you handle this badly, for the bible do tells us how we to handle such things with our children. Although i would want to hit my kid, i wouldn't not do it, if it's called for.

Each one of us, may have our own way of handling this situation. But seeking biblical counseling rather then worldly opinion, would be the best answer for you. Let no man, condemn.

There are good people doing good things and there are bad people doing bad things. But for a good person to do bad things, it takes religion.

Your advice is a perfect example of the immoral actions your blind faith leads to.

I'd hate to be your offspring
 
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Tobby17

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That's perhaps why Nigeria is one of the most lawless, corrupted places on earth. If my european country is so bad, why do so many people want to come and live here.

I hope you never get a UK visa with your attitude.
well unfortunately for you, i live in Germany now... Sorry to burst your bubble:rolleyes:

And yes, just so you know, when God punished the children of Israel, he didn't do it by patting their head
 
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Tobby17

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Just cause Nigeria allows abuse does not mean its right. You can beat the devil out of someone thats totally stupid.
Well, if you want to beat the Devil out of your child, go ahead and do that.. But nobody should say it's wrong to beat your child