Tonight's Presidential Debate

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Magenta

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Well yes, but you're not really supposed to let it get to that point in the first place, God already stated his judgment and stated what you are supposed to do as a society to prevent it. Terrible, but just, is the judgment of God upon such a nation that allows and then falls into whoredom, but this is a whole big topic in itself, after all directly or indirectly, a huge chunk of the Bible both OT and NT is devoted to this. Either way as this topic is concerned, shouldn't be too surprising that the party of the defenders of the sluts is being endorsed by Taylor Swift one of the most infamous sluts of her generation. The army of Jezebel versus the army of God.
People have been breaking the commandments since the dawn of time. Not sure what you think you can do to prevent it.

Do you disagree with what Paul has said?
 

cv5

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Exactly how many minutes did it take to get the "migrants" out of Martha's Vineyard?!

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The hopeful hapless pawns/hostages were intended to be sent to the strategic locations where they were assigned.
And it was not the Liberal Democrat $$$ gated communities $$$.

Fortunately, the red states got wise and shipped them out to inundate and bankrupt the Democrat cities.
This just happens to be a major and unanticipated dilemma for the progressive left nutters.
And a useful object lesson for the peanut gallery.
 

SonJudgment

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People have been breaking the commandments since the dawn of time. Not sure what you think you can do to prevent it.

Do you disagree with what Paul has said?

Well it's not about me, it's about what God says, right? God says that to prevent the land from falling into whoredom you put the whores to death. If you fail in doing that then your society will become unjust and full of evil and God himself will destroy that society with his most severe of judgments. You really can't read the prophets nor the apostles without coming across this theme over and over again. Perhaps this would make a good BDF topic, I have been thinking about taking another stab at making a topic, I will think about this.

No, I do not disagree with Paul, but I agree with him quite well on this topic which he talks at length about, though of course John probably puts it the best in my opinion. 1 Corinthians 10:8.
 
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Magenta

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Well it's not about me, it's about what God says, right? God says that to prevent the land from falling into whoredom you put the whores to death. If you fail in doing that then your society will become unjust and full of evil and God himself will destroy that society with his most severe of judgments. You really can't read the prophets nor the apostles without coming across this theme over and over again. Perhaps this would make a good BDF topic, I have been thinking about taking another stab at making a topic, I will think about this.

No, I do not disagree with Paul, but I agree with him quite well on this topic which he talks at length about, though of course John probably puts it the best in my opinion. 1 Corinthians 10:8.
These things took place as examples to keep us from craving evil things as they did.
Isn't Paul addressing believers? Do you go around murdering immoral people?
 
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If it's not happening, why didn't she sign the Born Alive Bill? Why did her VP also refuse and changed the language so that if a baby is born alive they will get "care" instead of being taken to a hospital?
This is why. It was fake legislation. Dog whistle crap by the extreme evangelical right who want everyone to live the way they think is right. There has NEVER been legislation requiring a single person to have an abortion,
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/a...alive-is-another-lie-to-stigmatize-abortion-2
 
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I can agree partially but "gaslighting" is the attempt to convince someone of something that is not real usually to cause harm to the other person or for personal gain.

Narcissists are really good as gaslighting, I have to work with one everyday and I suspect we have a few on CC.

I think this situation about the debate was just a failure of communication with no faking involved.
It was a failure of policy by DJT who never reads anything. Virtually every one of his former secretaries whom he fired because they disagreed with him has endorsed Harris.
 

SonJudgment

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These things took place as examples to keep us from craving evil things as they did.
Isn't Paul addressing believers? Do you go around murdering immoral people?
Paul is speaking to all that by him many might profit It's not like there is one set of rules for believers and one set of rules for unbelievers. It's not murder if one who deserves to die is put to death. This society has fallen into such depravity and injustice that it might just have to undergo the ultimate judgment of the Holy God.
 

cv5

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I draw your attention to the fact that I have actually been born alive and not aborted beforehand.
Evidently, the insidious influence of the Progressive Leftist eugenicists was not effective in my case.
 

cv5

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Very misleading. Berkshire Hathaway paid $8 billion in taxes. When you buy and sell stocks there is a capital gain tax that must be paid, so every person who owns the stock paid a portion of this tax, but in total it was $8 billion.

Amazon.com paid $2.1 billion in the US, they pay taxes in other countries as well.

Now Tesla did not pay any tax on income of $96 billion in 2018. Why? I don't know but I suspect they bought a whole lot of equipment that they were able to write off for depreciation. That law is favorable to domestic manufacturing and encourages companies to invest in new equipment. So even though they did not pay taxes you should also look at all their suppliers. Did they pay taxes? Also Tesla employs 121,000 people, did they pay taxes?

I am all for billionaires paying their fair share, but the word fair means everyone is treated the same. If Warren Buffet is trying to minimize the tax burden on his fund that benefits everyone investing in his fund fairly. He has long term investments so when he sells he gets the lower long term capital gains tax, and only when he sells. These laws encourage investors to invest. That is why capitalism works because money flows quickly to reward the winners and punish the losers. All that money they invest is being used by businesses to employ others and to keep their businesses competing with the rest of the world.

Ask yourself what "loophole" are these billionaires using to lower their tax rate? The write offs they have are available to everyone. Most of them do not take a salary which would be taxed at a higher rate, they profit when the stock goes up. As a rule investors want the CEO to profit when the stock goes up and to lose when the stock goes down.

One way they can cut their taxes is by taking a capital loss on a stock trade and carrying that forward to the next year. By law you can carry forward capital losses indefinitely. Perhaps they took big losses in 2008 and 2015 that they are still carrying forward. Again, this is fair, all investors get to do this.

Do not try to twist this as a defense of billionaires. I have no idea what their tax return looked like, or how they are able to pay such low taxes. What I do know is that simply looking at this one number does not fairly tell us anything.
Here you go buddy. The wise guys get the picture......the useful idiots, not so much.

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:ROFL::ROFL: I am totally enjoying Black Rock and their ESG initiatives and all the DEI hires who have no clue.

Maybe @Eli1 can help explain the real world.
It's unfortunate that you don't trust the sovereignty of God and in His goodness. You pull one bad example out of thousands who have helped you. That's why you complain rather than live in an estate of thanksgiving.
@Eli1 lives a life of contentment, peace, and joy. You could learn alot from him.
 

PennEd

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PennEd,

it's a free country. Go ahead answer something else. You will fail the psyche exam though.
Umm. Not gonna be free for long if Marxist Kammie gets elected!

As for psyche exam, how much sense does it make to antagonize someone you think is a psyche?

Water a mile wide, and a quarter inch deep we got here.
 

Magenta

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Paul is speaking to all that by him many might profit It's not like there is one set of rules for believers and one set of rules for unbelievers. It's not murder if one who deserves to die is put to death. This society has fallen into such depravity and injustice that it might just have to undergo the ultimate judgment of the Holy God.
Fornication in your view is deserving of death?
 

Magenta

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I believe her goal is truth. She sometimes has trouble getting beyond prejudices and misunderstanding.
"Sometimes" is a gross understatement. But that is to be expected when you build on sand.
 

SonJudgment

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Fornication in your view is deserving of death?
Yes, that is what God says and I just merely agree with him. It's not like it's a light thing in the eyes of God, after all, again, a huge portion of the Bible is devoted to this subject, it is probably the most recurring subject in the whole of the Bible. There is not one prophet or apostle in the entire Bible that writes about it like it is a small matter. At any rate I think we are disrupting this topic, but I will consider making a new topic in the BDF later today or tomorrow and perhaps we will continue there.