No blame will come from me.the bible talks about how the devil would make war on women in the end days. All I see is hate toward us women and now we are to be blamed once more?
No blame will come from me.the bible talks about how the devil would make war on women in the end days. All I see is hate toward us women and now we are to be blamed once more?
Firstly, not everyone who disagrees with your misinterpretations of Scripture is a "progressive woman". I for one am neither progressive nor female..
God's son Jesus holds the position of firstborn among the Christians in God's
family circle.
"For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the
likeness of His son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."
(Rom 8:29)
The "many brethren" are heirs within God's family circle.
"Now if we are children, then we are heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ"
(Rom 8:17)
The thing is: the firstborn's seniority entitles him to a greater degree of
respect-- and a larger share of the paterfamilias' estate --than those in the
family whose station is below his. For example:
Isaac's outdoor son Esau may have been secular to the bone, but he fully
understood the advantages that should've been his in accord with
primogeniture which were transferred to his kid brother Jacob instead, to
wit:
"May God give you of heaven's dew and of earth's richness-- an abundance
of grain and new wine. May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you.
Be lord over your kindred, and may the sons of your mother bow down to
you." (Gen 27:28-29)
When Esau protested Jacob's blessing; his father answered: "I have made
him lord over you" (Gen 27:37)
Now, in the natural mind's eye, the firstborn's blessings are extremely unfair
to say the least because who among us has any say in matters related to
birth? We are not given an opportunity to select either our parents or
gender, let alone whether we be the eldest or the youngest.
So; I sincerely sympathize with women's dissatisfaction with their placement
in the divine scheme of things. I also sympathize with progressive womens'
resentment that Christianity burdens women with inequality. But at the same
time I must insist they accept it as a "born that way" disadvantage; and bloom
where they're planted, i.e. make do and make the best of it; keeping in mind
that our current circumstances-- whether the best or less than best -- are only
a temporary inconvenience.
"I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory
that will be revealed in us." (Rom 8:18)
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This is utter stupidity. Equal pay for equal work is both sound business practice and, in most Westernized countries, a legal requirement. It has nothing to do with the relationship of women to men in the Church or with gender roles in the home. There is no gender hierarchy in the Church (Galatians 3:28). Anyone who tries to differentiate remuneration by your reasoning is slandering the name of Christ to the world and foolishly inviting stiff legal consequences..
ACTIVIST: Shouldn't Christians be supporting equal pay for equal work?
REPLY: No.
ACTIVIST: Why Not?
REPLY: Because it makes juniors equal to seniors; and circumvents the
firstborn's preeminence.
The Christian version of gender hierarchy is based primarily upon origin and
primogeniture irrespective of marriage and/or family.
For example: the man was created in the image of God, whereas the woman
was created in the image of the man, viz: the man was a discrete specimen
created with material taken from the Earth's soil, whereas the woman was
constructed with material taken from the man's body, thus she was the flip
side of the same coin instead of made a whole other coin of her own, viz: he
was the senior of the two on the one coin and she the junior, viz: the man
and the woman weren't siblings: their relationship was more along the lines
of a father and daughter than brother and sister.
* Women will never be truly equal with men except artificially by means of
man-made statutes because the divine scheme of things is a fixed frozen
sea, i.e. I doubt God has any plans to go back and do it over so as to
appease progressive women's complaints about their station in life.
ACTIVIST: Don't Christians believe in the separation of Church and State?
REPLY: Whereas the Bill Of Rights prevents the US Government from
establishing a nationwide religion to which all US citizens must conform; the
Bill does not prohibit US citizens from applying a religion's spiritual values in
their personal political philosophies.
ACTIVIST: So in your spiritual opinion; equal pay for equal work is a humanistic
aberration of the divine blueprint, so to speak?
REPLY: Yes.
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I overheard a female caller on radio imperiously announcing to Dr. Laura
that she couldn't respect her husband. So Dr. Laura asked her why. The
caller responded: Because he doesn't deserve it. So Laura asked the caller:
Have you earned your husband's love? The caller retorted: I don't have to
deserve his love. It's a husband's duty to love his wife just as she is.
So Laura pointed out that the caller was practicing a double standard. She
demanded that her husband love her unconditionally, while refusing to
respect him unconditionally. And on top of that; had the chutzpah to dictate
the rules of engagement regardless of how her husband might feel about it;
thus making herself not only impossible to like, but also quite difficult to live
with.
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"The Lord God said: The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." (Gen
3:22) In other words; Adam became a tin God, viz: Adam became his own guiding light, so to
speak
It is sexist and slanted to claim that "progressive women" need to do this. The shed blood of Jesus Christ is the only means of salvation for all people.● Heb 2:14 . . Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their
humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death; that is: the Devil.
That is at least one good reason why progressive women need to RSVP God and take advantage of His son's death to avoid leaving this life under the Devil's supervision. They've got to get that arrangement dissolved now, while an opportunity for liberty is on the table.
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● Matt 5:31-32 . . It has been said: Anyone who divorces his wife must give
her a certificate of divorce. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife,
except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and
anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
For a while here @ home in the USA, youngster's were getting married on an
experimental basis via so-called starter marriages with the expectation that
their first marriages will probably fail but at least they'll get some experience
out of it.
That may be a reasonable practice in the minds of progressive women but
Christian women cannot be doing that because serial marriages are little
more than legalized promiscuity, i.e. whoredom.
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You're only talking about progressive women.
None of this commentary relates to the thread topic..
● Gen 2:21a-22a . . So the Lord God cast a deep sleep upon the man; and,
while he slept, He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that spot.
And the Lord God fashioned the rib that He had taken from the man into a
woman;
The woman isn't presented as a unique species; she was constructed with
material taken from the man's body, viz: the woman was the flip side of the
same coin rather than a whole other coin of her own.
● Gen 2:22b . . and He introduced her to the man.
The woman wasn't given an opportunity to fit in with the animal kingdom
before giving her to the man probably because her specific purpose was to
be with a man (Gen 2:18) whereas Adam's specific purpose was to represent
the image and likeness of God. (Gen 1:26 & 1Cor 11:7) Men can make do
with a hound dog and/or a soccer ball named Wilson if they have to; but as
a rule, normal women can't. (I think we may safely assume Eve was normal
at first)
Men and Women share a lot of similarities; but the resolve to go it solo, to
be a rugged individual, is not one of them. There are exceptions, of course;
but as a rule, women do not care to live alone and unloved in the world. It's
curious, but when we think of hermits; our minds typically think of them as
male because female hermits just seem so contrary to nature.
● Gen 2:23a . .Then the man said: This one at last is bone of my bones and
flesh of my flesh.
The man's rib wasn't taken out of his body as only a bare section from his
skeleton, rather, it was taken from him with meat on it; which of course
would've included some of his blood too in order to keep the meat from
dying, which would've rendered it quite useless for constructing the woman
"for the life of the flesh is in the blood" (Lev 17:11)
The one who designed a man said it is not good for a man to live alone. And
if it's not good for a man to live alone, then it goes without saying that it's
not good for a woman either. If men are supposed to be happier with a
woman, then women should be happier with a man. In other words:
mankind's designer didn't intend men and women to function independently
of each other. They were created to be together; as couples.
● Gen 2:24a . . Hence a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his
wife,
Most people don't care much for needy spouses because they're so high
maintenance; but I don't think Genesis is talking about that kind of clinging.
It's said that dogs are Man's best friend. No they aren't; dogs are
domesticated beasts. They might bring a man his slippers, guard his
property, and lick his face; but a dog lacks the capacity to be concerned that
a man isn't eating right and getting enough sleep and/or sympathize with a
man when his job is outsourced to cheap labor in a foreign country.
How many dogs shared their master's alarm when the housing bubble burst
in 2008 and Wall Street fell off a cliff resulting in thousands of people all
over the globe suddenly finding themselves with a severely diminished 401K,
unemployed, and losing their homes? Had one done so, that would've been a
very unusual dog.
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There have been so many shocking murders of women lately... at the hands of their husbands, boyfriends.the bible talks about how the devil would make war on women in the end days.
All I see is hate toward us women and now we are to be blamed once more?