Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[Cameron143]

1Co 13:10
But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Gods "perfect" plan of salvation MUST include His purposed raising of the nation Israel. And the Law.
Because God does not make mistakes, this was the only correct perfect way.

And the fall of 1/3 angels, fall of Adam, Israels failure? Yes, they are part of the plan. How exactly? That is within the purview of the Trinity and is waaaaay past our pay grade.

So.....efforts at separating/parsing out ANY parameter of the Scripture from any other will doubtless end in disaster and produce heresies.

I would suggest that we refrain from harsh judgements. Especially upon Israel.
The truth is that we are eternally in their debt! Especially given how they have suffered in all of their trials.

Read the parable in Matthew 21:33-43. Jesus told them exactly what was coming and why.

 

[cv5]

Read the parable in Matthew 21:33-43. Jesus told them exactly what was coming and why.

Part of the program buddy.

Rom 11:11 - I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
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Rom 11:12 - Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

 

[cv5]

@ChuckCallesto

BREAKING REPORT: Letitia James $450 MILLION fraud case against Donald Trump is about to get NUKED in the NY appellate court.. ANOTHER B/S CASE CRAFTED TO INTERFERE IN THE 2024 ELECTION.. Judges are having NO PATIENCE for the Prosecutors and are questioning if there has ever been a case on record like this in the history..

 

[Cameron143]

Part of the program buddy.

Rom 11:11 - I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
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Rom 11:12 - Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Sure. So what is the fulness of the Jews? How and when does it manifest? Under what covenant does it transpire?

 

[cv5]

@mrddmia


Dear Fellow Colorado Voters: This is important. Monica Márquez and 3 other leftwing Colorado justices illegally took Trump off the Colorado ballot. Monica Márquez attempted to disenfranchise over 550,000 Colorado Trump primary voters. Her decision was so egregious the Supreme Court of the United States had to step in and reverse her. 9-to-0.

 

[cv5]

Sure. So what is the fulness of the Jews? How and when does it manifest? Under what covenant does it transpire?

This has been explained ad infinitum.
But one first needs to acknowledge Biblical "end time" reality.

 

[Cameron143]

This has been explained ad infinitum.
But one first needs to acknowledge Biblical "end time" reality.

Simple questions. I have more. How about this one? Is the fulness of the Jews similar to the fulness of the Gentiles? Or how about this: what question has Paul anticipated in making these claims?
In other words, why is Paul addressing the specific concerns of Jewish believers at this juncture?

 

[cv5]

@amuse on X: "TOWN HALL: Kamala Harris's disastrous Univision town hall featured a 'fake' audience. 50% of the attendees were handpicked from across the country and flown to the town hall and were allowed to ask questions. The other 50% of the attendees were hired by an 'audience-for-hire' https://t.co/Z0MXqn2VQL" / X

 

[cv5]

Simple questions. I have more. How about this one? Is the fulness of the Jews similar to the fulness of the Gentiles? Or how about this: what question has Paul anticipated in making these claims?
In other words, why is Paul addressing the specific concerns of Jewish believers at this juncture?

I have a question for you:
Why in the world are you asking questions that every studious Christian already has the answers to?
You see, diligent Christians really don't HAVE much of any questions. Because they already have all the right answers.
At least I do.

So then why exactly do these questions remain unanswered in your mind?
You need to hit the books? Or maybe first abandon those unbiblical ideas of yours?

 

[cv5]

John Rich🇺🇸 on X: "Tim Walz claimed he carried “weapons of war in combat” but he can’t load a shotgun? This guy is beyond weak. My little sister could beat him up. Ya gotta watch this👇 https://t.co/nd7CneGWBI" / X

@amuse on X: "ILLEGAL FIREARM? Tim Walz appears to have violated both state and federal firearms laws by using a magazine that was too large. Tim appears to load 5 shells into his handmade Italian shotgun - 4 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. Minnesota law and the Federal Migratory Bird https://t.co/OS7nG0fevi" / X

Jack. H 🇺🇲 🪖💜 on X: "@Tim_Walz (@GovTimWalz) claims he bought this shotgun a long time ago when he was doing a lot of trap shooting. The guy is a pathological liar. Nobody could use a firearm for "a lot" of shooting and somehow FORGET WHERE THE SHELLS GO! #TimWalzElemerFudd #TimWalzLies" / X

 

[Cameron143]

I have a question for you:
Why in the world are you asking questions that every studious Christian already has the answers to?
You see, diligent Christians really don't HAVE much of any questions. Because they already have all the right answers.
At least I do.

So then why exactly do these questions remain unanswered in your mind?
You need to hit the books? Or maybe first abandon those unbiblical ideas of yours?

What unbiblical ideas?
I'm not asking questions because these aren't settled matters for me. I'm asking questions to get you, and mostly others, to consider things you may not have considered.
I've also found that by asking questions, people are generally more open to having a discussion without feeling defensive. Just makes for better conversation.

 

[cv5]

What unbiblical ideas?

For me to answer that you would first of all have to state your position.
Which frankly you never have.
Having said that let us begin should you care to inform me:

1) Where does the nation Israel fit into Gods plan today?
2) What is your opinion of the future of the nation Israel?
3) Does the Church have a termination point in terms of a time in the future?
4) Do you see the Church persisting for thousands of years from today?
5) Does the Church fit into a future Biblical eschatology?
6) Does Israel fit into a future Biblical eschatology?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I was going to vote early this year until I went to Andrew Wommack's website to watch his latest series called America's Hope for the Future.
It featured David and Tim Barton from Wallbuilders and they discussed the reasons that even conservative Republicans refuse to vote for Trump because he doesn't match up to every expectation they have. There are Christians who won't vote for him, saying, "Trump's not Godly."

The Bartons then mention Hebrews 11, basically a checklist of people who God called for His work, even for all their sins.

- In Genesis 9:20-23, after leaving the ark, Noah became a farmer and planted a vineyard. Noah got drunk and naked in his tent and passed out from drinking his wine. His sons found him in his tent and covered him up with a garment.
So Noah was a drunkard yet he did what God told him to do.

- In Genesis 12:10-16, Abraham and his wife Sarai left Canaan because of a great famine in the land and they went to Egypt.
Before entering Egypt, Abraham told Sarai that because Sarai was beautiful, The Egyptians will kill Abraham to take his wife but they would keep her alive. He tells her to tell the Egyptians that she is his sister so that they will keep them both alive.
Sure enough, the Egyptians took Abraham and Sarai to the Pharoah, where she was taken into Pharoah's house and Pharoah gave Abraham servants and both livestock animals and work animals to compensate him.
God sent plagues into Pharoah's house because of Abraham's deception.
So Abraham was a lying coward whose priority was to love and protect his wife instead of worrying about his own life at her expense.
Yet God still blessed Abraham with a covenant for all his future generations of children

- In Exodus 2:11,12, Moses saw an Egyptian beating one of his fellow Hebrews, he looked around to see if anyone was watching and killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand.
So Moses was a murderer and yet God still used him to lead the Hebrews into the promised land of Israel.

- In Joshua 2, Joshua sent 2 men as spies to Jericho and they stayed at Rahab's home. She was a prostitute and she hid the 2 men in her house.
She was called to answer about the men by the king of Jericho and she told him that they already left the city and to pursue after them.
She then hid the men on top of her roof and hid them with flax.
She told them that she knew God has given Jericho to the Hebrews and that she had heard about the miracles done to lead the Hebrews out of Egypt. She asks and makes them promise that when the Hebrews come to take the city that they spare her family's lives. She then helped them escape Jericho.

- In 2 Samuel 11, David saw Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah the Hittite, from his rooftop as she washed herself. He sent messengers to bring Bathsheba to him, where he got her pregnant.
David then called for her husband Uriah to return home from the wars against Ammon and Rabbah. David expected Uriah to spend the night with Bathsheba so that it would look as though he was the father of Bathsheba's child.
When Uriah stayed in Jerusalem, he slept at the door of David's house. When David asked him why he didn't go to his own home, he said while his fellow soldiers are sleeping in the open fields, he refused the comforts of his home.
David then sent a message to Uriah's commander Joab to send Uriah into the frontlines of the hardest battle to let him die.
So David was a murdering adulterer and yet God used him to enlarge the land of Israel.

All of them far from perfect and Tim Barton said that the reason they're considered biblical heroes is that they're not defined by their sinful moments but by how God used them and did amazing things through them.
Would anyone today vote for those biblical heroes for office today?

Romans 3:10,11 "There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God."

Tim Barton followed up by saying the following:
Sin doesn't disqualify you from being used by God.

So we have 2 imperfect candidates and that is our starting point.
Righteousness in a nation can be determined by the nation's policies rather than by the candidate's personality.

May God help us as we mark up those ballots.

My little reaction emotions still aren't working, but I would give this a winning vote if I could!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

God’s covenant to Abraham was unilateral.

He put Abraham into a deep sleep, and passed through the split animal pieces HIMSELF.

Oh for the love of Pete, I have been trying to drill this into the people in the Hatred of the Jews thread!!!! Apparently they don't understand how a covenant was made and what everlasting and unconditional means!!!

 

[Cameron143]

For me to answer that you would first of all have to state your position.
Which frankly you never have.
Having said that let us begin should you care to inform me:

1) Where does the nation Israel fit into Gods plan today?
2) What is your opinion of the future of the nation Israel?
3) Does the Church have a termination point in terms of a time in the future?
4) Do you see the Church persisting for thousands of years from today?
5) Does the Church fit into a future Biblical eschatology?
6) Does Israel fit into a future Biblical eschatology?

So...I ask you some questions and you refuse to answer them, and then ask me questions. How about, you go back and answer my questions, and we will have the foundation in place to answer your questions.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Did Trump say the state had laws permitting infanticide, no he did not.

So your Youtuber looking for clicks is a liar too btw...

Yeah I don't even bother watching. It's a waste of time.

 

[Magenta]

So...I ask you some questions and you refuse to answer them, and then ask me questions. How about, you
go back and answer my questions, and we will have the foundation in place to answer your questions.

Always the optimist...

 

[Cameron143]

Always the optimist...

God is an optimist.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Or people vote for Trump to try to stem the tide of innocent blood being washed down the drains
of abortion clinics, and/or to stem to tide of illegal immigrants flooding into the country.

Can't do it, but in my mind I gave this a winning emoji...

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Part of the program buddy.

Rom 11:11 - I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
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Rom 11:12 - Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Same on this post, winning emoji.