Churches teach bible theology but not how to apply it

[jacko]

Why do Churches do such a poor job of integrating theology into real life. Everday living.
In theory, you don't have a black belt in BJJ train with a white belt... there are levels to the game so they say. Same should apply to faith. A new born in Christ needs to be nurtured and taught differently that a PHD a theology from Biola, they need their own time slot a distinct message at Church.

Most churches have morning service and a late service. Maybe it should be broken up differently. Beginner, intermediate, advance.
Maybe new ideas need to be tossed around.

 

[DRobinson]

How many churches have you attended?

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Why do Churches do such a poor job of integrating theology into real life. Everday living.
In theory, you don't have a black belt in BJJ train with a white belt... there are levels to the game so they say. Same should apply to faith. A new born in Christ needs to be nurtured and taught differently that a PHD a theology from Biola, they need their own time slot a distinct message at Church.

Most churches have morning service and a late service. Maybe it should be broken up differently. Beginner, intermediate, advance.
Maybe new ideas need to be tossed around.

I think this is true. At least in my own life. It took a long time for me to understand and learn how a Christian is suppose to grow in Christ and become more like Him, being more obedient, and sinning less as you grow in Him. I actually learned from praying and begging God to help me because I never heard how in any of the churches I've been in. What I wanted is to hear the testimonies of people - leaders and congregants alike - of how they were able to overcome any habituals sins, how they grew to reflect Jesus, etc. - but I would only get testimonies of how they got saved at the beginning, never their journey to maturity after that.


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[jacko]

How many churches have you attended?

Only 3

 

[jacko]

I mean, I kinda get it in a sense that look they’ve gotta be able to pack a lot in and then one and a half hour service if 20 minute of that is devoted to praise and worship then the remaining time has to be a suitable message for the masses…

So basically, it’s a shotgun approach… any pastors, please chime in

 

[TheLivingStone]

I've been a bit disappointed in church services where i was really hoping to learn a lot. Always hoped there'd be a good amount of teaching.
That's what Christ did, didn't He? Taught in the synagogues.

 

[studentoftheword]

My View

Not many Ministers ---and church elders and deacons ----are saved ----most theology that is taught in the Churches today is being taught by false prophets ----they themselves have no understanding of the Spiritual meaning of the Scripture -----Many are still teaching that as long as you serve your neighbour your saved -----Jesus is never in the picture -----they are still Preaching the law ------not Salvation by Grace through Faith -----

God says in James 3:1----many need to pay attention to this --I say ---

Amplified Bible
Not many [of you] should become teachers [serving in an official teaching capacity], my brothers and sisters, for you know that we [who are teachers] will be judged by a higher standard [because we have assumed greater accountability and more condemnation if we teach incorrectly].

Many are not called by God to enter the Ministry ---they call themselves into the ministry and Wrongly divide the Word of God ------ and are in for a shock when they pass on from this world ----

People need to be careful when choosing a church to attend ----they need to be familiar with scripture to know when to run from a Church that is teaching wrongly -----

 

[Tall_Timbers]

Some churches have many home groups, various Bible studies, numerous opportunities to be directly involved in church ministry, etc.

 

[JohnDB]

I mean, I kinda get it in a sense that look they’ve gotta be able to pack a lot in and then one and a half hour service if 20 minute of that is devoted to praise and worship then the remaining time has to be a suitable message for the masses…

So basically, it’s a shotgun approach… any pastors, please chime in

The lessons about HOW to live and act do not come from the sermons directly but indirectly....they come from making friends within the congregation and doing life as a community. A new family of sorts. Where the life lessons are made in conjunction with others.

Even the Lord's Prayer is teaching this with the first word ""Our" Father, who art in Heaven" and the resulting thought is that even prayers are not supposed to be done alone.

Because in truth, most sermons are forgotten by the next day but a 20 minute meeting with friends is usually remembered for weeks afterwards. Sometimes years. And your friends always have a more profound influence on your behavior than any sermon ever has.
Trying to make friends in a coffee shop with strangers is very very difficult. However, usually at church, there are all kinds of people usually eager and willing to make new friends.

Despite the hype and focus on the sermons....it's the people who are the living stones. A Stone was once set up to show and mark where God performed some sort of miracle. But today the "stones" are alive and speaking for themselves.

 

[jacko]

Some churches have many home groups, various Bible studies, numerous opportunities to be directly involved in church ministry, etc.

I belong to a fantastic church with a great pastor… but like you said, the focus is on Bible study.
I’m saying I want to have, “Life Study” but though the lens of a believer.

 

[jacko]

The lessons about HOW to live and act do not come from the sermons directly but indirectly....they come from making friends within the congregation and doing life as a community. A new family of sorts. Where the life lessons are made in conjunction with others.

Even the Lord's Prayer is teaching this with the first word ""Our" Father, who art in Heaven" and the resulting thought is that even prayers are not supposed to be done alone.

Because in truth, most sermons are forgotten by the next day but a 20 minute meeting with friends is usually remembered for weeks afterwards. Sometimes years. And your friends always have a more profound influence on your behavior than any sermon ever has.
Trying to make friends in a coffee shop with strangers is very very difficult. However, usually at church, there are all kinds of people usually eager and willing to make new friends.

Despite the hype and focus on the sermons....it's the people who are the living stones. A Stone was once set up to show and mark where God performed some sort of miracle. But today the "stones" are alive and speaking for themselves.

yes, you get it , real talk.. not Bible flexing and throwing around verses.

 

[Tall_Timbers]

I belong to a fantastic church with a great pastor… but like you said, the focus is on Bible study.
I’m saying I want to have, “Life Study” but though the lens of a believer.

My post didn't indicate the focus was on Bible study, though I think that would be highly commendable. Small home groups can be good for what I think you're calling "Life Study" though I think Believers need to take a little responsibility for their own growth and development in Christ. If we rely too much on an organized church for what we need, I think we'll ultimately be disappointed.

 

[Billyd]

We have 2 worship services, a social service, and three Bible studies each week. We also have a weekly children's service. Worship services are led by our pastor. One of the Bible studies is also led by our pastor. All remaining services are tailored for each age group, and are led by lay leaders with many hours of experience teaching the material for their age group. We also have community wide social meetings. We are a typical SBC Baptist church.

As with most churches that I have visited, our 18 to 30 age group does not adequately serve that sector of our community population.

 

[ZNP]

I was raised on Watchman Nee, he covered many critical teachings and his "Normal Christian LIfe" and "Normal Christian church life" cover essential doctrines that all believers should apply. You can purchase the complete works of Watchman Nee online, but if you go to Christian book stores you will only get the sanitized teachings that they approve, usually "Sit, Walk, Stand".

I also went through the Witness Lee trainings -- he did an exegesis of the entire Bible, covering every book in both the New Testament and Old Testament. It was thorough and comprehensive, but like anyone else, no person is complete. Some teach the word, others are gifted evangelists, others are prayer warriors.

So then you want to be involved in a ministry with many genuine brothers and sisters who pray and preach the gospel as well as teach the word. I am in the Gideon's ministry.