Pagan Holiday Thread

[daisyseesthesun]

Did you just slice right through whole pistachios there?

What in the world kind of knife were you using?!

Lynx its a cake made of soft dry nuts It is easily cut but be careful that it does not crumble.

as for the Carlos bars well have you tried it three times? It's kind of like Mexican hot chocolate but less spicy.

 

[SonJudgment]

A two for one for this Halloween and keeping the original intention of the holiday which is to remember the saints. Specifically the saints that destroyed the pagans and thus gave us Christmas and its most familiar motiffs. Glory to God for saints Nicholas and Boniface whom smote the heretics and cut down the dead religion of the pagans, glory to Jesus.

 

[Ambassador]

The children around here wait all year for Halloween. It would break their hearts if one of there regulars suddenly stopped givin. I just put on a scarf every year like my mother but others think I'm a gypsy so that... yeah. But no I don't celebrate Halloween and I don't watch Halloween movies.

Do you hand out candy? If so, is this action not also condoning the pagan holiday as well? If not, instead of opening the door and handing out candy, perhaps open the door and hand out tracts promoting Jesus.

 

[Lynx]

Do you hand out candy? If so, is this action not also condoning the pagan holiday as well? If not, instead of opening the door and handing out candy, perhaps open the door and hand out tracts promoting Jesus.

Howdy and welcome to the Forum.

Have you ever tried that? Back in my day that was an excellent way to get eggs all over your windows. And soap all over your car. If you don't have any candy it's much more neighborly to just turn your porch light off and don't answer your door.

Giving a child a tract when he is expecting candy is like giving a man a salad when he is expecting a steak. It's pretty cruel.

 

[seoulsearch]

Its a delicious peanut treat it soft powered peanut cake. its taste like that white desert made of nuts from Israel. i think they call it mana or something like that. its good.

Interesting!!

I would have to proceed with caution. I like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, but not so much other peanut-flavored treats... Most taste like imitation peanut butter to me, if there is such a thing.

I'm thinking it's mostly backlash from that cheap peanut-butter "flavored" taffy that was thrown in with most candy mixes when I was a kid.



At any rate, @daisyseesthesun, THANK YOU for posting pics and info of all these interesting-looking treats!! It's always neat learning about what kinds of foods other people like.

There are definitely a few here I would love to try if I get a chance!

 

[seoulsearch]

I was simply keeping you from tree worship. Anything beyond that is an overactive imagination. But I do think you should go on a date and have a nice time. Who knows? The next CC get-together may be a wedding. Hope this doesn't get twisted into another evil plot.

LOL!!

Well, you're not technically match-making or setting anyone up on a blind date, so I think you're still in-bounds.

The singles I know here rejoice at weddings -- but see most match-making (unless it's by someone who REALLY knows both people) and blind dates as being the 7th level of evil.

So as long as no one is trying to set me up a blind date that's going to double a surprise wedding, I think we're all good!

 

[seoulsearch]

seoulsearch,

mazipan? seoulsearch have you even had Dutch Christmas log? Banketstaaf (Dutch Christmas Log) - Lavender & Macarons

I have seen things and tried things like this, but they never had the marzipan filling or I would scoop the right up!

I know it's probably kind of heathen, but while I don't like artificial peanut butter flavoring I do like almond flavoring a lot.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I was a child of the 70s and teenager of the 80s. We had to worry about glass in our candy bars ... and marijuana brownies. 🥴

I don't know how us Gen-Xers survived our childhood, lol!


🍸

 

[Lynx]

LOL!!

Well, you're not technically match-making or setting anyone up on a blind date, so I think you're still in-bounds.

The singles I know here rejoice at weddings -- but see most match-making (unless it's by someone who REALLY knows both people) and blind dates as being the 7th level of evil.

So as long as no one is trying to set me up a blind date that's going to double a surprise wedding, I think we're all good!

I'm still keeping my flamethrower serviced.

What, you forgot about that? I still keep it around, just in case.

And those peanut taffies were actually kind of good. Not as good as "real" candy bars, but not bad. And they were free, so... Gift horse.

 

[seoulsearch]

Do you hand out candy? If so, is this action not also condoning the pagan holiday as well? If not, instead of opening the door and handing out candy, perhaps open the door and hand out tracts promoting Jesus.

Something I've been wondering about... In the 15 years I've been here reading about how holidays are evil and pagan, I've never once seen a post that mentioned Purim. Why is this?

Granted, I might have missed it, and I only learned about it from a Bible commentary last year, but according to the article I looked up, Purim is, "The Jewish holiday that celebrates the deliverance of the Jewish people from a plot to exterminate them in Persia (by Haman.)"

Activities for this grand event include:

* The reading of the book of Esther.
* Charity for the needy.
* Fasting.
* Food and drink -- a festive meal is shared, and "Purim baskets" are sent to friends and family. (Not sure where the fasting is scheduled into all of this, but hey, I'm learning.)
* Parades and carnivals.
* Costumes -- children AND adults dress up in costumes, often of figures from the story.
* Gift giving -- gifts are given to friends and family.


Seriously. How much evil can you cram into ONE holiday???!!! I mean, Purim BASKETS? The Easter bunny would sue over the competition. GIFT GIVING??? Santa would file for a copyright claim. And CHILDREN AND ADULTS DRESSING UP IN COSTUMES??? If this doesn't make people clutch their pearls and fall over in a display of f self-righteousness, I don't know what will. Why has it never been mentioned?

Is this something that can only be celebrated by the Jewish people? And I'm certainly not trying to say that this makes it right to celebrate.

But if this one holiday wraps up just about everything people point out as being evil about holidays into one big heathen package -- AND it's observed BY GOD'S OWN PEOPLE -- why is it that no one ever brings this up?

 

[seoulsearch]

I'm still keeping my flamethrower serviced. What, you forgot about that? I still keep it around, just in case.

And those peanut taffies were actually kind of good. Not as good as "real" candy bars, but not bad. And they were free, so... Gift horse.

Believe me, anyone who knows anything about you would never forget that you threaten all potential matchmakers with a flame thrower.

 

[Lynx]

Something I've been wondering about... In the 15 years I've been here reading about how holidays are evil and pagan, I've never once seen a post that mentioned Purim. Why is this?

Granted, I might have missed it, and I only learned about it from a Bible commentary last year, but according to the article I looked up, Purim is, "The Jewish holiday that celebrates the deliverance of the Jewish people from a plot to exterminate them in Persia (by Haman.)"

Activities for this grand event include:

* The reading of the book of Esther.
* Charity for the needy.
* Fasting.
* Food and drink -- a festive meal is shared, and "Purim baskets" are sent to friends and family. (Not sure where the fasting is scheduled into all of this, but hey, I'm learning.)
* Parades and carnivals.
* Costumes -- children AND adults dress up in costumes, often of figures from the story.
* Gift giving -- gifts are given to friends and family.


Seriously. How much evil can you cram into ONE holiday???!!! I mean, Purim BASKETS? The Easter bunny would sue over the competition. GIFT GIVING??? Santa would file for a copyright claim. And CHILDREN AND ADULTS DRESSING UP IN COSTUMES??? If this doesn't make people clutch their pearls and fall over in a display of f self-righteousness, I don't know what will. Why has it never been mentioned?

Is this something that can only be celebrated by the Jewish people? And I'm certainly not trying to say that this makes it right to celebrate.

But if this one holiday wraps up just about everything people point out as being evil about holidays into one big heathen package -- AND it's observed BY GOD'S OWN PEOPLE -- why is it that no one ever brings this up?

The only thing missing is tree worship.

I'm certain there's cultural appropriation here, but I'm not sure who is appropriating from whom.

I'm going to go with everybody else is appropriating from Jews, because purim was here first.

 

[Lynx]

Believe me, anyone who knows anything about you would never forget that you threaten all potential matchmakers with a flame thrower.

Yes but we are always getting new people coming through here, so it is good to occasionally brandish the flamethrower a bit, just to make sure they know.

 

[seoulsearch]

A two for one for this Halloween and keeping the original intention of the holiday which is to remember the saints. Specifically the saints that destroyed the pagans and thus gave us Christmas and its most familiar motiffs. Glory to God for saints Nicholas and Boniface whom smote the heretics and cut down the dead religion of the pagans, glory to Jesus.

Do you hand out candy? If so, is this action not also condoning the pagan holiday as well? If not, instead of opening the door and handing out candy, perhaps open the door and hand out tracts promoting Jesus.

Something I've been wondering about... In the 15 years I've been here reading about how holidays are evil and pagan, I've never once seen a post that mentioned Purim. Why is this?

Granted, I might have missed it, and I only learned about it from a Bible commentary last year, but according to the article I looked up, Purim is, "The Jewish holiday that celebrates the deliverance of the Jewish people from a plot to exterminate them in Persia (by Haman.)"

Activities for this grand event include:

* The reading of the book of Esther.
* Charity for the needy.
* Fasting.
* Food and drink -- a festive meal is shared, and "Purim baskets" are sent to friends and family. (Not sure where the fasting is scheduled into all of this, but hey, I'm learning.)
* Parades and carnivals.
* Costumes -- children AND adults dress up in costumes, often of figures from the story.
* Gift giving -- gifts are given to friends and family.


Seriously. How much evil can you cram into ONE holiday???!!! I mean, Purim BASKETS? The Easter bunny would sue over the competition. GIFT GIVING??? Santa would file for a copyright claim. And CHILDREN AND ADULTS DRESSING UP IN COSTUMES??? If this doesn't make people clutch their pearls and fall over in a display of f self-righteousness, I don't know what will. Why has it never been mentioned?

Is this something that can only be celebrated by the Jewish people? And I'm certainly not trying to say that this makes it right to celebrate.

But if this one holiday wraps up just about everything people point out as being evil about holidays into one big heathen package -- AND it's observed BY GOD'S OWN PEOPLE -- why is it that no one ever brings this up?

Call me dense, but this is the kind of question I would have loved to have been able to ask when I was going to Lutheran school.

During the festival of Purim, the people are doing pretty much everything done at Halloween, Christmas, and Easter -- all rolled into one. And they're not celebrating witches or demons, but rather, the time God rescued them from genocide in Persia.

I just wrote a post listing all of the activities done during this celebration -- giving gifts and gift baskets, dressing up in costumes, feasting and making special foods to indulge in and share.

I'm just curious -- which parts of this are evil, and why?

 

[seoulsearch]

The only thing missing is tree worship.

I'm certain there's cultural appropriation here, but I'm not sure who is appropriating from whom.

I'm going to go with everybody else is appropriating from Jews, because purim was here first.

Look up "What decorations are used for Purim?" and I think it's got you well-covered.

There doesn't seem to be anything central like a tree, but this is just a partial list:

* Honeycomb centerpiece (surely a good substitute for a tree!)
* Garlands
* Hanging swirls (can't anyone see the Satanic symbolism in this??!)
* Gragger and Tzedakah box (not sure what they are, but are apparently Purim decorations)
* Wall art
* Paddle balls and pinball games (Hey, this is starting to sound like more fun than American holidays!!!)
* Rubber bracelets (Isn't adornment vanity??)
* Gift bags (SPENDING MONEY on gifts??? Giving away material goods??? This is sin at the highest level.)
* FACE PAINT and *gasp* MASKS. WEARING DISGUISES ON a HOLIDAY??? Might as well call in a witch doctor.

Seriously.

I think this one holiday has out-heathened every other holiday we're told is evil -- combined.

 

[SonJudgment]

Call me dense, but this is the kind of question I would have loved to have been able to ask when I was going to Lutheran school.

During the festival of Purim, the people are doing pretty much everything done at Halloween, Christmas, and Easter -- all rolled into one. And they're not celebrating witches or demons, but rather, the time God rescued them from genocide in Persia.

I just wrote a post listing all of the activities done during this celebration -- giving gifts and gift baskets, dressing up in costumes, feasting and making special foods to indulge in and share.

I'm just curious -- which parts of this are evil, and why?

I don't really understand what exactly you are asking me. Halloween was created to remember the saints, hence the meme is a celebration of two great saints who just so happened to create the two iconic traditions of Christmas. In an ironic fashion, or unironic depending on your viewpoint and study of history, both saints Nicholas and Boniface actions were directly against the pagans and heretics. As for Purim, it is for the jews, it is in February or March, its not really a widely celebrated holiday given the fact that it doesn't really pertain to any race besides the jews, but it's not pagan either.

 

[seoulsearch]

On a serious note...

The whole reason I mention Purim is because I'm the product of Lutheran Sunday schools, Bible school, vacation Bible school, catechism, and everyday regular Lutheran school kindergarten through 8th grade. In other words, I've been taught a lot about what I'm supposed to see as evil. And I'm thankful for the Biblical background the Lutheran education gave me.

But it also taught me to question every rigid set of "this is evil" rules I was given, because it was a constant inflow.

And I'm certainly not trying to say that we shouldn't stay away from evil.

But I saw the churches that condemned anyone for reading or watching Harry Potter (magic, spells, talking animals, witches, enchantments) arrange for entire church outings to go see things like The Lion, The WITCH, and The Wardrobe (Narnia -- magic, spells, talking animals, witches, enchantments) because it's by a Christian author and Aslan (magic enchanted lion) is "an allegory of Christ."

Now I'm not saying people shouldn't stay away from Harry Potter -- I believe God will convict people individually of such things -- but I also have a very hard time with people saying, "Witches and magic -- secular author, bad; witches and magic -- Christian author, good! Support! Read! Go See! We've reserved a bus so there's no excuse for all you church members not to go and see it!"

Yeah.

Anyone who tells me, "This is EVIL! (from the world) but this other thing (from a Christian) THAT USES THE SAME THINGS is GOOD!" -- is going to have give me a lot more to work with than than just that.

Because what I've found is that there are a lot of Christians out there who aren't interested in making you like God. They're most interested in making you like them. And if you don't talk like them, act like them, think like them... You're not a Christian.

As a single person, I was recruited many times by people pushing their own ministry agendas rather than what God had in mind, then told I was being rebellious if I didn't take the bait. So I proceed only with the utmost caution, and I don't take "warnings" at face value.

But, that's just me.

 

[seoulsearch]

I don't really understand what exactly you are asking me. Halloween was created to remember the saints, hence the meme is a celebration of two great saints who just so happened to create the two iconic traditions of Christmas. In an ironic fashion, or unironic depending on your viewpoint and study of history, both saints Nicholas and Boniface actions were directly against the pagans and heretics. As for Purim, it is for the jews, it is in February or March, its not really a widely celebrated holiday given the fact that it doesn't really pertain to any race besides the jews, but it's not pagan either.

Why are you saying Purim isn't pagan if it contains all the elements of the holidays you ARE saying are pagan in other posts?

In other words, you saying all the things that go on for holiday celebrations are ok, as long as it's not a holiday you label as pagan?

 

[SonJudgment]

Why are you saying Purim isn't pagan if it contains all the elements of the holidays you ARE saying are pagan in other posts?

In other words, you saying all the things that go on for holiday celebrations are ok, as long as it's not a holiday you label as pagan?

For the same reason I say that Halloween and Christmas aren't pagan; it just wasn't created by the pagans, it's simple as that.

 

[seoulsearch]

For the same reason I say that Halloween and Christmas aren't pagan; it just wasn't created by the pagans, it's simple as that.

Interesting -- I apologize if I misread your post.

So you're saying it's the intent behind the holiday, and not the holiday itself or how it's celebrated (within Christian morals of course) that matters? And that these holidays actually aren't pagan themselves, but the intent has turned pagan over time?

Such as, you're not opposed to wearing costumes or giving gifts or hanging decorations if it's with Christian motivation?

I'm not defending holidays -- I'm just looking for consistency across reasons as to why I'm told something is pagan or evil vs. acceptable as a Christian.