The word of God is not a secret code that needs unlocked.

[Dino246]

Psalms 12:6-7 (KJV)
6 "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

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Only KJV-onlyists believe that the "them" in verse 7 refers to words rather than people.

Only KJV-onlyists can't understand that "preserve them from this generation" means "keep safe from the evils of this generation".

Only KJV-onlyists don't comprehend the nature of simile, used here to compare the purity of God's words to silver refined seven times.

Only KJV-onlyists are too stubborn to admit that they are wrong about these things.

 

[Dino246]

That is just silly and dumb. The words that come from God (in the Bible) is a part of His own mind unless you simply desire to lobotomize God or seek to take a magic marker to wipe out His words. Besides, I have catalogued 40 places in Scripture where there is a connection between the Living Word (Jesus) and the Communicated Word (like Scripture). But this is not surprising you are hostile to the authority of Scripture. Your own Modern Bibles teach you to think that way. Ironically, one such example is in John 5:39 in the trojan horse update of the KJV known as the NKJV.[/QUOTE]
More slander, insults, and insinuations. Did your KJV teach you to treat people so poorly?

 

[Genez]

God’s Word says the Scriptures are holy (1 Timothy 3:15).
Many covers of the Bible say, "Holy Bible." Something that is holy from God does not have errors.
So if you believe the Bible has errors in it, then you must conclude that the cover of your Modern Bibles are lying to you when it says, "Holy Bible." In reality, it should say, "holey bible" a book full of holes and errors. ..

Speaking of errors?
1 Timothy 3:15, says the following:


If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household,
which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15

You goofed.

 

[Magenta]

Ironically, one such example is in John 5:39 in the trojan horse update of the KJV known as the NKJV.

King James Bible
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

New King James Version
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

Where is this Trojan horse?

 

[fredoheaven]

I see no need to do your homework for you.

My homework, no not mine, its yours and how does it connect to some kind of idol worship. Well, anyway, you could be wrong. Idol worship is a worship of convenience and modern bibles are like that. 👍

 

[Magenta]

My homework, no not mine, its yours and how does it connect to some kind of idol worship. Well, anyway,
you could be wrong. Idol worship is a worship of convenience and modern bibles are like that. 👍

How do you mean "convenience"? Like, it is convenient to read a Bible that is written in the language you speak and understand?

And doing so makes one an idolater? Should we then read the Bible in languages we do not understand?

That certainly would not be convenient. Though I dare say it would be wise to read what one understands.

 

[Genez]

My homework, no not mine, its yours and how does it connect to some kind of idol worship. Well, anyway, you could be wrong. Idol worship is a worship of convenience and modern bibles are like that. 👍

HEEE HAW! There's one of them there new fangled modern Bible translations!

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

King James Bible
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

New King James Version
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

Where is this Trojan horse?

John 5:39 is a key doctrinal verse that Modern scholars have altered in Modern Bibles. This change happens to align with Christians who criticize us for being overly focused on the Word of God, as if to suggest we are like the Pharisees or Jews with this particular problem. In the KJV, Jesus commands, “Search the scriptures” (present tense imperative), urging a continual and active engagement with God's Word. In the middle part of the verse, “for in them ye think ye have eternal life,” although written in the present tense, it reflects not only a current belief but also a belief the Jews have held for some time. Modern translations change the beginning of the verse to an indicative mood, rendering it as, “You search the Scriptures,” as though Jesus is merely acknowledging what the Jews were already doing, with no exhortation to continue in the Word. This change downplays the command to actively search the Scriptures and shifts the focus to past actions alone, bolstering their false argument that we take Scripture too seriously.

In fact, it is highly suspicious that key teachings of the Bible, which emphasize the importance and specific characteristics of God's divine words have been attacked in modern English translations. This is especially evident in verses such as Psalms 12:6-7, Psalms 96:13, Psalms 138:2, Romans 10:17, 1 Peter 1:23, 1 Peter 2:2, and 2 Corinthians 2:17. The foundation of Textual Criticism itself often involves not taking the words of God as seriously or absolutely as they were historically regarded. Modern Bibles alter these verses to de-emphasize or water down crucial aspects of the inspired Word of God. Therefore, it seems rather unlikely that these changes are merely coincidental, particularly when these verses challenge the very foundation of Textual Criticism, which is a mirror of its liberal belief and approach to God’s holy Word. In other words, most Modern Bible advocates tend to think that it was just the general truths and doctrines that are preserved, and not the precise words of God. They believe all forms of the Bible have errors in them. So then, you or the scholar becomes the ultimate authority and not God's Word, which is a major problem.


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[Bible_Highlighter]

King James Bible
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

New King James Version
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

Where is this Trojan horse?

Also, the NKJV is a trojan horse for several reasons. While I will not give you the full story, the creators of the NKJV for the New Testament version that first came out said they were not going to expose you to the Westcott and Hort text. Yet, when the full version came out, they essentially did so by placing footnotes that point to the Nestle and Aland Critical Text, which is based on Westcott and Hort's work in several ways (Both in translation theories and the texts like Vaticanus and Sinaiticus).

Also, the creators said that the NKJV is based on the TR. This is true for the most part, but not entirely. There a few points where it does not follow the Textus Receptus used by the KJV translators. They also used a different Hebrew text, as well. So when a cover of a Bible or name of it states that it is a KJV by saying NKJV, it is deceptive. It is not in the tradition of the KJV because it departs from it. Hence, it makes you think that it just updates words, but that is simply not the case.

Many translation choices have also favored critical text readings found in Modern Critical Text Bibles, as well.

These are just some of the many problems with the NKJV being a trojan horse type Bible.


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[Bible_Highlighter]

Speaking of errors?
1 Timothy 3:15, says the following:


If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household,
which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15

You goofed.

Yes, humans can make mistakes in writing or in misquoting a verse reference when they are typing really fast. It is 2 Timothy 3:15. However, if catching typos is the distraction you want to run with to evade talking about how the Scriptures are holy, then by all means, continue your insignificant "psyop mission."


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[Bible_Highlighter]

Only KJV-onlyists believe that the "them" in verse 7 refers to words rather than people.

Only KJV-onlyists can't understand that "preserve them from this generation" means "keep safe from the evils of this generation".

Only KJV-onlyists don't comprehend the nature of simile, used here to compare the purity of God's words to silver refined seven times.

Only KJV-onlyists are too stubborn to admit that they are wrong about these things.

Actually, I see "them" as in reference to both the words, and the people being preserved. I am also technically not a KJV-onlyist. I am Core KJV. This means I am willing to use Modern Translations to help flesh out the meaning in the 1600s English in the KJV at times. However, Modern Bibles cannot be trusted because they teach many false doctrines.


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[Bible_Highlighter]

Where is that in Scripture?

It was a typo of the verse.
Here is the actual verse I was referring to:

2 Timothy 3:15.


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[fredoheaven]

Its almost like prefaces we see in our modern bibles today.

The translators, in effect, admitted that there can be no perfect translation.
Its weird how the KJV Only folks insist and claim its the perfect translation!

For sure, the Preface to the Readers is not part of the scripture and can barely defend it. For Kjb preface was written by Miles Smith if not mistaken.
Btw, could yoy quote me their admission that there could be no perfect translation? Thanks

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

For sure, the Preface to the Readers is not part of the scripture and can barely defend it. For Kjb preface was written by Miles Smith if not mistaken.
Btw, could yoy quote me their admission that there could be no perfect translation? Thanks

Even if the KJV translators did state that all Bibles have errors and even their own translation may not be perfect, it does not mean that God was not overseeing the KJV translation. John the baptist declared Jesus is the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world by the Holy Spirit, and yet, at another point in time he questioned whether Jesus was the Messiah while in prison. So men can be moved by God to speak at certain points in their life, and yet another point, they can act on their own carnal thinking that is not influenced or moved by the Lord our God.


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[Dino246]

It was a typo of the verse.
Here is the actual verse I was referring to:

2 Timothy 3:15.


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Miss the point much?

Where in Scripture does it say, “Something that is holy from God does not have errors”?

 

[Dino246]

Even if the KJV translators did state that all Bibles have errors and even their own translation may not be perfect, it does not mean that God was not overseeing the KJV translation.

So you believe in double inspiration? I hope not. If so, you don’t need to bother arguing for the translators’ skill or abilities, nor in the textual sources for the KJV, nor be using any format other than the 1611. No Blaney, no Cambridge, no Oxford.

 

[cv5]

God’s Word says the Scriptures are holy (1 Timothy 3:15).
Many covers of the Bible say, "Holy Bible."
Something that is holy from God does not have errors.
So if you believe the Bible has errors in it, then you must conclude that the cover of your Modern Bibles are lying to you when it says, "Holy Bible." In reality, it should say, "holey bible" a book full of holes and errors.
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The Bible is an integrated message system coming from outside our time domain.
It is written with various types of embedded codes, a signal with a certain bandwidth.
This code is intentionally widely distributed across the bandwidth to prevent hostile jamming.

Should small errors creep in, they will not affect the coherence or the comprehension of the signal.
Errors = noise in the signal.

Have small errors crept in over the millennia? Thats for you to decide.

 

[Genez]

For sure, the Preface to the Readers is not part of the scripture and can barely defend it. For Kjb preface was written by Miles Smith if not mistaken.
Btw, could yoy quote me their admission that there could be no perfect translation? Thanks

The Bible originally was intended to be taught to man by someone who had access to a scroll.
Even if you could read the original language? We are all limited in our knowledge to use for correlation.

I believe God requires each one of us only so much to know in our lifetime.
Those who are given much, much will be required of them by God.

The church is to self police itself. Checking each other when someone is in error, and providing more information
to those who lack enough knowledge to get put something together correctly.

This notion that some translation will make you accepted by the Lord into the order of the Morning Star is trying to use
a given translation in itself a good luck charm.

We all need to be taught competently. 2 Timothy 4:3 is a warning that many in the church will never know what God requires
of them. But, some will still fight on, thinking his is the one who is right when he is wrong too many times.

God must sort it out in the end. He is faithful, and for those who desire true faith they will find it.

Enjoy your translation. What we really need is good teachers.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

The Bible is an integrated message system coming from outside our time domain.
It is written with various types of embedded codes, a signal with a certain bandwidth.
This code is intentionally widely distributed across the bandwidth to prevent hostile jamming.

Should small errors creep in, they will not affect the coherence or the comprehension of the signal.
Errors = noise in the signal.

Have small errors crept in over the millennia? Thats for you to decide.

Its not for me to decide.
The Bible tells me that God's words are pure and perfect (Psalms 12:6) (Psalms 119:140) (Proverbs 30:5). God’s Word says His words will be preserved forever (Psalms 12:6-7) (Isaiah 40:8) (1 Peter 1:23-25). There is nothing in the Bible that talks about how His Word would continue in error or corruption (Whereby we could not trust it). On the contrary, God’s Word says Scripture cannot be broken (John 10:35); It is: “incorruptible...the word of God...” (1 Peter 1:23). So if I believe God's Word, and take it face value, then the issue is a matter of faith in what God says. Do I believe God's Word vs. the scholars and their agenda? That is what this is really about. Faith. Faith in what God said, and not the scribes (that Jesus warned us about). But alas, most will let Scripture's promise of God on the perfect preservation of His Word fall into the background like white noise because they do not like the idea of being under an authority or perfect Word. They like to be able to have some wiggle room when it comes to God's words. They like to have a "Choose Your Adventure Bible." Hence, why the liberal approach to God's Word exists with the current Modern Bible Movement.

Also, it is highly illogical to claim the Bible has errors in it, and then say we trust the Bible. How do you know what is true or false? Not every Christian or scholar agrees on what is true or false on every verse in the Modern Bible Movement.

I think the NKJV sums up the false approach to the Bible by Christians today perfectly.

Taken right out of the NKJV pages. It says this:

This goes against the warning in Revelation 22:19.

Revelation 22:19 says,
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

I say to those who have this mentality:
Have fun taking your Bible to the butcher's market and slicing and dicing it to your own liking like a piece of meat.
Just know, there will be a judgment on such matters.

Behold, it is written...



God’s Word tells us that Christians are to speak the same thing (1 Corinthians 1:10). This can only be if there is one Word of God that we can all agree upon. Therefore, the Modern Bible Movement is not the path of truth. Sure, God can save you with a Modern Translation, but when it comes to following the Lord in what He actually said precisely, that is only going to happen with a King James Bible.

Think. How can you commit the sins in Revelation 22:18-19 by adding or subtracting from His Word if there is no settled text?


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[Bible_Highlighter]

The Bible is an integrated message system coming from outside our time domain.
It is written with various types of embedded codes, a signal with a certain bandwidth.
This code is intentionally widely distributed across the bandwidth to prevent hostile jamming.

Should small errors creep in, they will not affect the coherence or the comprehension of the signal.
Errors = noise in the signal.

Have small errors crept in over the millennia? Thats for you to decide.

You are also missing the point I made. In 2 Timothy 3, we learn that Timothy had known the Scriptures since he was a child. Did Timothy have the originals? No. Timothy had access to copies of the Scriptures (either in his home or a synagogue) whereby he was able to know them to make him wise unto salvation in Christ Jesus. Yet, 2 Timothy 3:15 says that these very same Scriptures are holy. Okay. If you know of anything about the Bible, you would know that God is called holy, and certain objects or things could be holy. This means that it is without defilement or error. So this means, that the copies of Scripture (not the originals) that Timothy learned from as a child were called "holy." This means they were free from error. This proves that a copy of Scripture can be without error because it is holy. This is what you missing if you simply read and believe the Bible plainly like a child, my friend.

So I encourage you take that first step of child-like faith on this topic involving God's Word.
May you be set free from the trap that the Modern day scribes have set.


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