the Sabbath

[Stan_the_Man]

i do not take away from the rest we have in Jesus.. But just because we have rest in Jesus and are saved by faith in Jesus, do we stop obeying the laws of liberty.

The law of liberty (Law of Christ) in the new testament does not instruct Christians to observe Saturday sabbath.

Jesus said to obey the law. James said to obey the law, Paul said to obey the law and revelation said we should obey. They are all referring to the Ten commandments.

That would be the Law of Christ for us in the new testament.

No matter how you slice it, there are zero instructions in the NT telling us to keep Saturday sabbath because the concept of sabbath is different in the NT than it is in the OT - See Hebrews 4:1-11

If anyone thinks they are required to keep portions of the old testament law in order to earn their salvation then that's what they'll do. It's not what the Lord teaches in the NT but some folk think they are supposed to add to the Gospel by keeping some elements of the OT even though it's not of the Lord.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Hello, sorry to lead the topic off the rails a bit here but I cannot PM people here so I would like to just ask one quick question from you, as this has potentially opened my eyes to an idea.

1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.


I always thought about this verse "WHAT, circumcision IS a commandment of God" but after reading your post I was wondering if perhaps Paul is talking about the 10 commandments as a separate entity from the rest of the law?
Is there any Bible backing up this idea? Do you believe this is the case? thanks God bless you

Hi I am not sure if this was answered but the Ten Commandments was a separate law from all other laws.

Thats what the scriptures teach....

God personally wrote Ten Commandments- called it "My covenant" and "My commandments" and He finished writing the Ten Commandments- He added no more, it is a standalone until personally written by God.

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He (God) declared to you His covenant which He (God) commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God) wrote them on two tablets of stone.

After God wrote and God spoke the Ten Commandments , He added no more

Deut 5: 22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.


Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.


The Ten Commandments are inside the ark of the covenant Exo 40:20 that God told Moses to build the sanctuary as a miniature of God's heavenly Temple Heb 8:1-5 where lies the ark in heaven Rev 11:19 where the Ten Commandments are under His mercy seat, what all man will be Judged by James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30 Rev 22:14-15 and I would not want to remove anything covered by God's mercy . Every Judge has to have a law to judge by and God did not leave it up to man to write His holy and eternal law- He wrote it with His own finger it is God's perfect law converting the soul Psa 19:7 which has a much greater reach than most realize as Jesus taught Mat 5:19-30

Only the Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark of the covenant Exo 40:20 and ALL other laws was handwritten by Moses placed beside the ark, not inside and was there as a witness against for breaking what was inside the ark, the Ten Commandment's written by the finger of God. Deut 31:24-26 Exo 31:18. So yes God made a distinction between these laws, one law is what sin is when breaking 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 the other law was added because of sin Gal 3:19 not the same. Paul contrasted these laws and said what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19

 

[Zandar]

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

 

[glf]

Only the Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark of the covenant Exo 40:20 and ALL other laws was handwritten by Moses placed beside the ark, not inside and was there as a witness against for breaking what was inside the ark, the Ten Commandment's written by the finger of God. Deut 31:24-26 Exo 31:18. So yes God made a distinction between these laws, one law is what sin is when breaking 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 the other law was added because of sin Gal 3:19 not the same. Paul contrasted these laws and said what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19[/QUOTE]


Why the law?
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
And in Rom 3: 19-21:
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Now we know in Rom 7: 10-14:
And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
So we see that sin was made exceedingly sinful by the commandments of the law; whereby we've received the knowledge of sin. So the law is unable to bring justification to mankind, but rather it brings the curse of death, stopping every mouth and making all the world of man guilty before God.

When the lost stand before the Lord's great white throne judgement at the end of the world, they will all be judged by the standard contained within the ten commandments. This includes even those who turned from Christ to the law for their justification as seen in Gal 5: 4:
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Therefore before we attained to faith through repentance:
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
And not by the works of the law which made all the world guilty before God.
This can be seen first in Heb 10: 1-4:
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
This leads us to faith as seen in Heb 9: 13-15:
For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Except for a very few instances, there is no curse of death for sin under the New Covenant which can be seen in 1 Jn 5: 16-18:
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

The keeping of the commandments of the law are not for our justification, that is left to Jesus' sacrifice but rather become a reflection of our growing love for the Lord as we walk in obedience to the Spirit. This is seen in Jn 14: 21:
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Or again in 1 Jn 3: 19-24:
And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Only the Ten Commandments was placed inside the ark of the covenant Exo 40:20 and ALL other laws was handwritten by Moses placed beside the ark, not inside and was there as a witness against for breaking what was inside the ark, the Ten Commandment's written by the finger of God. Deut 31:24-26 Exo 31:18. So yes God made a distinction between these laws, one law is what sin is when breaking 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 the other law was added because of sin Gal 3:19 not the same. Paul contrasted these laws and said what matters is keeping the commandments of God 1 Cor 7:19


Why the law?
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
And in Rom 3: 19-21:
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Now we know in Rom 7: 10-14:
And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
So we see that sin was made exceedingly sinful by the commandments of the law; whereby we've received the knowledge of sin. So the law is unable to bring justification to mankind, but rather it brings the curse of death, stopping every mouth and making all the world of man guilty before God.

When the lost stand before the Lord's great white throne judgement at the end of the world, they will all be judged by the standard contained within the ten commandments. This includes even those who turned from Christ to the law for their justification as seen in Gal 5: 4:
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Therefore before we attained to faith through repentance:
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
And not by the works of the law which made all the world guilty before God.
This can be seen first in Heb 10: 1-4:
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
This leads us to faith as seen in Heb 9: 13-15:
For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Except for a very few instances, there is no curse of death for sin under the New Covenant which can be seen in 1 Jn 5: 16-18:
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

The keeping of the commandments of the law are not for our justification, that is left to Jesus' sacrifice but rather become a reflection of our growing love for the Lord as we walk in obedience to the Spirit. This is seen in Jn 14: 21:
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Or again in 1 Jn 3: 19-24:
And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

This is a good example when one doesn't understand the difference between the law that is perfect converting the soul and the law that was outside the ark that was contrary and against. Many confuse these laws but if we understand the differences and carefully study the context especially with Paul's writings we won't get them confused. Pau never contradicted Jesus and Jesus taught us to keep the commandments of God and condemns those who keep their rules over obeying God. Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

The wages of sin is death even in the NC Rom 6:23 and disobeying God's commandments is still a sin even in the NC Rom 7:7 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 and keeping Gods commandments is how one in Christ lives Rev 14:12 not to be saved but because one loves Jesus and has faith in what He teaches and how He lived for our example to follow 1 John 2:5-6

 

[ewq1938]

Paul never contradicted Jesus and Jesus taught us to keep the commandments of God and condemns those who keep their rules over obeying God. Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

Paul taught to NOT keep the commandments of the first cov which does not contradict any teaching of Jesus because Jesus taught during the first cov while Paul taught during the second cov.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Paul taught to NOT keep the commandments of the first cov which does not contradict any teaching of Jesus because Jesus taught during the first cov while Paul taught during the second cov.

No, Jesus didn't teach "old covenant" He is our example to follow in His footsteps if we abide in Him.

1 John 2: 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God [a]is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

And no Paul did not teach we can worship other gods, or vain God's holy name, or break His holy Sabbath day, or covet, or murder or break the least of these commandments just as Jesus taught Mat 5:19-30. Paul is a servant of Christ and a follower of Christ just as we should be.

Paul taught the same thing Jesus taught. He condemned those who broke God's commandments.

Romans 2:21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal? 22 You who say, “Do not commit adultery,” do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?

Paul is not teaching one to dishonor God and sin.

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”

Both of these references are directly from the Ten Commandments. Obviously some misunderstanding of the different laws and their purposes.

Paul often times just uses the word "law" and sadly people instead of carefully and prayerfully reading the context just add the law they don't want to keep instead of allowing the context to speak for itself. What Paul condemned most was the teaching of one had to be circumcised to be saved. He spoke about this often in many chapters and if that were true one could save themselves, but we can't we need Jesus to save us through faith.

There is no scripture that says we can break God's commandments. While they can't save us, they show us our sin Rom 7:7 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 and so we are not depending on our righteousness but on Christ Psa 119:172 Isa 56:1-6 and are kept through faith and love Rom 3:31 John 14:15 1 John 5:3 that's the faith that reconciles Rev 22:14 instead of leaving us outside the gates Rev 22:15. We are not saved in our sins Heb 10:26-30 we are saved from sin Mat 1:21 we need a conversion.

 

[KohenMatt]

Did Jesus keep the Sabbath?
If He did, and we are to be His disciples, then we should walk the way He walked. And if anything else in Scripture seems to contradict walking like Him, we need to re-evaluate what those apparent contradictions are truly saying in light of our Savior's example.

 

[glf]

1 Tim 1: 9-10:
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
and in Gal 3: 1-5:
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
And again in Gal 3: 10-14:
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
And again once more in Gal 3: 23-26:
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

 

[gb9]

Did Jesus keep the Sabbath?
If He did, and we are to be His disciples, then we should walk the way He walked. And if anything else in Scripture seems to contradict walking like Him, we need to re-evaluate what those apparent contradictions are truly saying in light of our Savior's example.

Jesus was a jewish man, born under the Law of Moses.

gentiles were never under the Law, hence were never commanded to keep the Sabbath..

 

[KohenMatt]

Jesus was a jewish man, born under the Law of Moses.

gentiles were never under the Law, hence were never commanded to keep the Sabbath..

So how much of Jesus' deeds, actions and life should we follow?

 

[gb9]

So how much of Jesus' deeds, actions and life should we follow?

missing the point- gentiles were and are not under the Law of Moses.

Jesus kept the Passover. who kept the Passover? the Jewish people. who did not? gentiles.

 

[KohenMatt]

I'm not missing the point.

If we're supposed to be disciples of Jesus and we're told to follow Him, shouldn't we try to do all the things He did? Instead of making a distinction between what we think is applicable or not, when He never made that disctinction?

In other words, when Jesus said "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. (John 14:15) He only meant certain ones?

 

[Zandar]

Jesus said, Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and love thy neighbor as thyself these are the greatest commandments.

These some up the whole law.

 

[Magenta]

Did Jesus keep the Sabbath?
If He did, and we are to be His disciples, then we should walk the way He walked. And if anything else in Scripture seems to contradict walking like Him, we need to re-evaluate what those apparent contradictions are truly saying in light of our Savior's example.

How is your walking on water coming along? Perfected that yet?

 

[Magenta]

Jesus said, Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and love thy neighbor as thyself these are the greatest commandments.

These some up the whole law.

Galatians 5:14, Ecclesiastes 12:13, Romans 13:10b The entire law is fulfilled in a single decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” When all has been heard, the conclusion of the matter is this: Fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the whole duty of man. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

missing the point- gentiles were and are not under the Law of Moses.

Jesus kept the Passover. who kept the Passover? the Jewish people. who did not? gentiles.

The Ten Commandments are not the law of Moses....

They are God's commandments at least that what's God said- should we believe Him?

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He (God) declared to you His covenant which He (God) commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God) wrote them on two tablets of stone.

The sacrificial feast days came after the fall. The Sabbath is part of Creation. Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 made for man Mark 2:27 and for everyone Isa 56:6 because everyone needs God sanctification, man cannot sanctify themselves we need God Eze 20:12

Jesus was born under the law because He could not be our Savior or example to follow had He not had to follow the same laws we are to

Heb 4:15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
1 Peter 2: 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for [e]us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 “Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;

Sin is the transgression of His law 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7

The sacrificial laws ended at the Cross fulfilling in Christ Heb 10, 1 Cor 5:7

The moral code written in the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath never ends, at least if we believe what Jesus taught.

He said in His own Words the Sabbath would be kept 40 years after His death at the fall of Jerusalem Mat 24:20 which has a dual application to His Second Coming and will be kept for eternity thus saith the Lord Isa 66:23

God's people keep God's commandments faithfully by love until His return

Rev 14:12 Here is the [a]patience of the saints; here[b] are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who [a]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

1 Tim 1: 9-10:
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Rom 6:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us
Rom 3:10 As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;

Thats why we all need God's righteousness Psa 119:172 which is everlasting Psa 119:142 so we are not depending on our own righteousness

and in Gal 3: 1-5:
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
And again in Gal 3: 10-14:
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
And again once more in Gal 3: 23-26:
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Freind which law is being referred to?

Paul tells us clearly
Gal 2:3 Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised
The same law is talked about to death in several chapters
Acts 15:1 And certain men came down from Judea and taught the brethren, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.

The Jews were trying to make Gentle converts get circumcision in order to be saved. The is the main law Paul is referring to throughout Galatians Gal 2:3,7,8,9,12, Gal 5:2,6,11 Gal 6:12,13,15.

Circumcision cannot save us which means we could save ourselves, this is the works of the law Paul is referring to and the sacrificial system. The only way we are saved is by Jesus by grace through faith.

Paul is not telling us in Galatians not to obey God or His commandments.

He made a distinction between the ceremonial types of laws i.e. circumcision and keeping God's commandments. This was his conclusion

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

God people keep God's commandments Rev 14:12 not to be saved but because of love and faith which reconciles Rev 22:14

 

[gb9]

The Ten Commandments are not the law of Moses....

They are God's commandments at least that what's God said- should we believe Him?

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He (God) declared to you His covenant which He (God) commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God) wrote them on two tablets of stone.

The sacrificial feast days came after the fall. The Sabbath is part of Creation. Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 made for man Mark 2:27 and for everyone Isa 56:6 because everyone needs God sanctification, man cannot sanctify themselves we need God Eze 20:12

Jesus was born under the law because He could not be our Savior or example to follow had He not had to follow the same laws we are to

Heb 4:15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
1 Peter 2: 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for [e]us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: 22 “Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;

Sin is the transgression of His law 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7

The sacrificial laws ended at the Cross fulfilling in Christ Heb 10, 1 Cor 5:7

The moral code written in the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath never ends, at least if we believe what Jesus taught.

He said in His own Words the Sabbath would be kept 40 years after His death at the fall of Jerusalem Mat 24:20 which has a dual application to His Second Coming and will be kept for eternity thus saith the Lord Isa 66:23

God's people keep God's commandments faithfully by love until His return

Rev 14:12 Here is the [a]patience of the saints; here[b] are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who [a]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

the Torah is one whole thing.

the hebrew word means " Law", or can be rendered as " Teachings'

it is one word. and the 10 are in it, part of it, and can't be set aside as something seperate...

 

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the Torah is one whole thing.

the hebrew word means " Law", or can be rendered as " Teachings'

it is one word. and the 10 are in it, part of it, and can't be set aside as something seperate...

Yet Paul separates them

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

Because God did.

What number do you see here?


Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He (God) declared to you His covenant which He (God) commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God) wrote them on two tablets of stone.

There is a law that defines sin and a law that was added because of sin- so no not all the laws are the same. God's law didn't start in Mt Sinai, it was a sin to commit murder with Cain. Without law there is no sin Rom 4:15 so obviously God's law started before sin because it defines what sin is. Sadly many get the different laws confused but they are not the same. The Ten Commandments is part of the law of Moses, its part of everyone's law because God is King and A King has laws, God didn't leave it up to man to write His holy and righteous law, that is perfect converting the soul, He wrote them and called them God's commandments, not the law of Moses. Moses is not God. Just like Paul is not above God t countermand anything God commands.