Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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I hope you're right, Brother. The Turd Reich has to be flushed after this election.
By "turd Reich" if you are referring to AOC and the squad then I would agree. You were kidding when you said AOC was right, right? I mean even for someone with TDS that seems too much to believe that anyone takes anything that clown says seriously. Right?
 

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ZNP

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Regardless of who the victor is next week, the question remains; Should a Christian or anyone with a strong sense of right or wrong be supporting Trump? From what I've seen of Trump's behavior and many of the things he's said over these past 9 years along with many of his supporters, the answer is a resounding "No".
https://www.christianpost.com/voice...efuse-to-support-donald-trumps-candidacy.html
This is a complete misunderstanding of the Bible. As citizens every Christian has the right to vote. Whether or not they do vote is between them and the Lord Jesus. As long as they are one with the Lord and follow His leading they are fine.

The election is not for a pastor of a church. If that were the case we would demand the candidates declare that Jesus Christ is Lord and King. Failure to do that would disqualify anyone from being a pastor, but is not a requirement to be the ruler of a nation. That is because nations are not under the covenant in the New Testament, nor are they under the covenant given by Moses. No, they are under the Covenant given to Noah. It is their job to deal faithfully and honestly with murder. That should be the only criteria of any Christian in voting for a leader in a US election.

Now you can consider that dealing faithfully and honestly with murder would include war. I would say that Obama was the biggest violator of this covenant when he increased the bombs from drones exponentially with many killed in "collateral damage". I would also say that Biden violated this covenant when he gave the Taliban a list of people who worked with the US in Afghanistan knowing they would be hunted down and killed. I would also say the Clintons were in direct violation of this as well with 100 people close to them committing "suicide".

Now you can expand this to locking up innocent people. It is not directly referenced by God in the Noah covenant but it is inferred that He is talking about dealing with crime. Also at the time of Noah there was no prison. If you were caught you were sold as a slave to pay back what you stole. But there were a lot of abuses with slavery that resulted in death and that was certainly directly spoken of by God to Noah. If you want to widen the net to deal with abuse of the justice department then I think you can definitely say Kamala Harris violated that.

You can also expand this to the border issue since we have had 100,000 killed by Fentanyl in the last year, and that is brought across the border. We have also had criminals come into this country illegally who then commit crimes including murder. So if the government is going to faithfully deal with murder they would be diligent to secure the border. So you could definitely feel that Kamala Harris did not act faithfully to secure the border.

Of course Abortion is a very clear and explicitly prohibited in the Bible. Anyone who causes their son or daughter or seed (fetus) to pass through the fire is cursed. The ten commandments prohibits the worship of idols and aborting your baby in the Bible is a form of idol worship to either Moloch or Baal (fornication or your career). Obviously any Christian who votes for someone advocating abortion is in direct violation of the Bible. However, some may feel that this includes both Trump and Harris. Some may feel before the Lord that if the candidate does not come out openly and condemn all forms of abortion that they cannot vote for them. Once again, that is between you and the Lord. I am not going to judge another man's servant. That said, I will openly judge anyone who votes for Kamala Harris as being in direct rebellion with the word of God.
 

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Sedition is trying to forcefully stop a government proceeding like what they did on January 6th
I suggest you look at the evidence for Jan 6. many people have released the videos that were not released by the government, there was no sedition in Jan 6. if anything, there was an attempt by Pelosi and her thugs to make trump look bac.

I am sorry dude, I can not take your nonsense any more. You have been brainwashed. Good day
 

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By "turd Reich" if you are referring to AOC and the squad then I would agree. You were kidding when you said AOC was right, right? I mean even for someone with TDS that seems too much to believe that anyone takes anything that clown says seriously. Right?
A.O.C.'s assertion about the Trump rally was spot on. How does that make her a clown?
 

true_believer

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another false accuser?

I belong to no cult my friend

what I want is to make things for this country great again, and stop the nonsense and lies of the left trying to take us to communism
First, what is your definition of communism?
And second, how is affordable education, universal access to health care, maintaining social security, protecting women's rights, multiculturalism, freedom of religion, protecting the environment, and caring for veterans communism?
 

ZNP

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A.O.C.'s assertion about the Trump rally was spot on. How does that make her a clown?
If you think she is not a clown that is up to you. In my opinion her four years as a congresswoman have been a complete clown show. I thought that was your joke, but if not, ok, go give her trillions of dollars and send her my sympathy for the trauma she suffered on Jan 6th.
 

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First, what is your definition of communism?
There are many defenitions. it is based on socialsim. do youi know what this is?
And second, how is affordable education, universal access to health care, maintaining social security, protecting women's rights, multiculturalism, freedom of religion, protecting the environment, and caring for veterans communism?
1st off. The left does not care about womens rights. if they did, they would fight this LGBTQ nonsense which has men undressing in womens locker rooms and taking medals away from women and causing them hard by competing in womens sporting events
2nd - the left does not care about affordable education. anymore then MAGA does. we all want affordable education. We just do not want liberal agendas and other stuff forced down our kids throats.
3rd, Universal access to healthcare is not a left agenda. MAGA wants it also. we just want to reduce the cost of healthcare. not give it away from free 9there is no such things as free healthcare. somone has to pay for it.)
4th I am a veterinary, I am retired from the US military and I tell you right now. the left does not have my interest at heart. it started with clinton removing most of the benefits I had. And it continues today. MAGA has more respect for me and more care about my right as a veteran than any of the two rejects currently holding office as president or vice president
5th - Social security is on the verge of being bankrupt BECAUSE of the people you are supporting. They are not trying to maintain it. They are stealing from it to pay for their government agenda
6th - freedom of religion - So when a person yells jesus is lord. and gets mocked for it by Kamila Harris, thats freedom of religion?
7th. All the anti-white stuff we are getting from the left is multiculteralism?

where do you get your information from my friend?

You to have been fooled into a lie
 

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What does make America "great again" even mean? Look at any time in history that people think was great and you'll find many things that weren't so great. It's really just an empty slogan that people can make mean whatever they want it to mean. For the most part, from what I can tell about the MAGA party, it just means making America great for certain people who feel they've been treated unjustly. They're mad as heck and they aren't gonna take it anymore. The Donald has found a way to tap into that anger.