What if there had been no tempter/serpent and Eve had decided totally herself to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge then leading Adam to do the same?
MaryM -----
if there was no tempter in the Garden to entice deception and disobedience to God;s Command ---then God would Not have had to give the Command He did for them to not eat the Fruit of the tree of Good and Evil because there would be no Evil to worry about ----Adam and Eve would have been God's Puppets just obeying and doing what God Wanted ----there would be no Free will ----there would be no corrupt Nature to worry about ----there would be no sickness --no disease --no wars ---no fighting --we would all have a uncorrupt nature and all would be living under the Blessings of God ---Jesus would have not been sent to walk on the earth to die and be resurrected as we would all have eternal life ----or shed his blood for sin cause there would be no sin -----
God needed a Tempter to carry out His Plan that He made before He created this earth and all in it ---God allowed Satan to deceive Eve and then allowed Eve to get Adam to commit sin against God so that His Plan to bring His Son to save the world could play out -----God needed free will to be present ---so He gave His angels free will to choose to rebel against Him or not and He allowed one angel to rebel against Him and then other angels followed -----
The Tree of Life was also in the middle of the Garden and they could eat from that tree but they didn't touch that tree which would have left them in a Holy God State forever ----
-I personally think God Kept them from eating of that tree as again God had a plan and the tree of life would have kept His plan from being Executed -----
Satan had access to God in heaven and went into a meeting God was having -----
Good Read here ------
https://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-access.html
Satan was originally one of God’s holy angels, but he rebelled against God and was cast out of heaven (
Luke 10:18). That was only the first stage of his judgment. Satan’s kingdom was vanquished at the cross (
John 12:31–32). Later, he will be bound in the abyss for one thousand years (
Revelation 20:1–3) and then will be cast into the lake of fire for eternity (
Revelation 20:10).
Until his final judgment, Satan is "the prince of this world" (
John 14:30),
but it seems that he still has restricted access to the heavenly realms.
In Job 1:6, Satan stands in the presence of God. There is a similar situation in 2 Chronicles 18:18–21 involving a "lying spirit."
Since God is holy and absolutely without sin (
Isaiah 6:3), and since He will not even look on evil (
Habakkuk 1:13),
how can Satan be in heaven?
The answer involves God’s sovereign restraint of sin. In
Job 1, Satan stood before God to give an account of himself. God initiated the meeting, led the proceedings, and remained in absolute control (verse 7). The result was that Satan’s power was limited (verse 12) and God was glorified.
Here are some other facts to note:
1) Satan does not have open access to God’s presence. He is summoned by God.
2) The visits are temporary. His time before God’s throne is limited.
3) In no way is the purity of heaven tainted by the brief, God-ordained presence of a sinful being, "quarantined," as it were, by God’s regulatory power. And,
4) Satan’s access is only granted prior to the final judgment. After the judgment, God creates a new heaven and new earth (
Revelation 21:1), wipes away all tears from our eyes (verse 4), reveals the New Jerusalem (verse 10), and promises the complete absence of sin (verse 27).
When we say, "God cannot allow sin into heaven," we simply mean that God cannot allow human beings who are still in their sin to live in His presence. But it is possible for God to command a sinful being to stand (temporarily) in His presence in order to commission him (
Isaiah 6), to exact an account from him (
Job 1-2), or to judge him (
Revelation 20:11–15) without compromising His holiness.
God’s holiness will eventually consume all sin. Until that day, His holiness regulates sin, and that means that Satan, on certain occasions, is briefly summoned before his Creator to give an account of his actions
I say -------Satan is part of God's plan and will remain until Jesus comes back and defeats him and he is put away for a thousand years ----
But Wait---God's not done with Satan ---after the thousand years has ended
Satan is released again --this is after the Millennial reign -----
Revelation 20 AMP Bible --and there is a footnote here ====on verse 8 tells you who these people are
- Revelation 20:8 Non-believing descendants of the survivors of the Tribulation.
The Final Rebellion
7 And when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison (the abyss),
8 and will come out to deceive and mislead the [c]nations which are in the four corners of the earth—[including] Gog and Magog—to gather them together for the war; their number is like the sand of the seashore.
9 And they swarmed up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints (God’s people) and the beloved city [[
d]Jerusalem]; but fire came down from heaven and consumed them.
10 And the devil who had deceived them was hurled into the lake of fire and burning brimstone (sulfur), where the beast (Antichrist) and false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night, forever and ever.
I say -------So Satan works for the Good of God's plan ----until His plan is complete -----
