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If you like to be liberal with God’s Word, then this is how you approach the Bible. You approach it as a Science and not as a Holy text preserved throughout time. If you simply believe the Bible in what it says about itself, then you will believe God’s Word is perfect and that it will be preserved forever.
occurs to me that if the kjv translating committee thought as you did they would not have made the kjv.

so who is right, you or kjv?

:coffee::unsure:

you say they sinned by making a new translation.
they say you sin by considering theirs perfect.

weird conundrum
 

Eli1

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I was sorry to see that. Jon was harassed and harangued endlessly.
He seemed like someone who genuinely loved God and has left all the comforts of his home and travel around the country without knowing what would happen to him.
So i find that very admirable despite his faults. Nobody is perfect.
 

Magenta

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He seemed like someone who genuinely loved God and has left all the comforts of his home and travel around the country without knowing what would happen to him.
So i find that very admirable despite his faults. Nobody is perfect.

John 15:9-14
 

Genez

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what do you have against being rational?

:oops:
Being rational, based upon objective reality, limit's one's ability to recreate his own reality more to his own bias and liking.
Those who wish to establish their own authority become irked by the Highest authority standing in their way.

And, we all must pass divine authority testing before God will grant us promotion into maturity in Christ.
Those who fail will to mature will end up seeing their wood, hay, and stubble burned up in huge barn fire.

1 Corinthians 3:11-15​
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or stubble,
their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be
revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. If what has been
built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer
loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.

grace and peace ............
 

Genez

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He seemed like someone who genuinely loved God and has left all the comforts of his home and travel around the country without knowing what would happen to him.
So i find that very admirable despite his faults. Nobody is perfect.
God is the Word.

John 1:1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."


Those who 'genuinely' love God?

They will, over time, go through bumps and grinds of mistakes. Only to eventually find themselves being given access to excellent teachings.

Teachings that will not only show them what they had been failing to see. But, will also be teach what corrects them, and will find themselves LOVING being corrected. Proverbs 9:8


Grace and peace ............
 

Eli1

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God is the Word.

John 1:1

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."


Those who 'genuinely' love God?

They will, over time, go through bumps and grinds of mistakes. Only to eventually find themselves being given access to excellent teachings.

Teachings that will not only show them what they had been failing to see. But, will also be teach what corrects them, and will find themselves LOVING being corrected. Proverbs 9:8


Grace and peace ............
I think that i may have misread about you having health issues and i think that you were studying clinical psychology if i remember correctly.
 

Genez

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I think that i may have misread about you having health issues and i think that you were studying clinical psychology if i remember correctly.
In college I excelled (i.e., did very well) in Psychology classes.
God gifted me, and was simply like being a duck placed on water...

But, I also was sad and frustrated to discover that secular psychology was too busy finding excuses for the human condition.
Having too many theories, but without objective answers.

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occurs to me that if the kjv translating committee thought as you did they would not have made the kjv.

so who is right, you or kjv?

:coffee::unsure:

you say they sinned by making a new translation.
they say you sin by considering theirs perfect.

weird conundrum
I am not opposed to the approach taken by the KJV translators. However, their method was distinct from Modern Textual Criticism, which is rooted in German Rationalism. I would even be open to a KJV update, but only if it adhered to a strict, conservative approach in updating words—one that could convince even my fellow KJV supporters, including those who argue that Hebrew and Greek are no longer necessary. Ideally, such an update would reference Greek and Hebrew definitions where beneficial.

It's also essential to recognize that the personal views of the KJV translators on Bibliology do not limit God’s ability to use them in preserving His Word. The KJV stands apart from any other book in existence. With even a basic level of investigation, one can see that the KJV is, at the very least, the most reliable translation, while Modern Bibles show significant corruption.


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Dino246

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I am not opposed to the approach taken by the KJV translators. However, their method was distinct from Modern Textual Criticism, which is rooted in German Rationalism.
How are the methods different? Please don't respond with any slander of the modern version; just tell us the differences as you understand them.

With even a basic level of investigation, one can see that the KJV is, at the very least, the most reliable translation, while Modern Bibles show significant corruption.
Given that with even a basic level of investigation, one can find that the KJV has several errors, how can it possibly be the most reliable translation?
 

Genez

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This is insane..... Period.

Who gave anyone the right to say the KJV is a perfect translation of God's Word must be God Himself!