(Psalms 103:5) (Is The Earth is Not a Globe or is The Earth a Globe?)

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Which poll answer do you believe is the correct one?

  • I believe the earth is NOT a globe and I DON'T believe Psalms 103:5.

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  • I believe the earth IS a globe and I DON'T believe Psalms 103:5.

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Dino246

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We're living in a new paradigm, now. Those who were wrong about the covid vaccine hoax don't get to lecture those who were right about credibility. At least, not without stirring up much amusement due to the irony. Next time there's a world-wide hoax that 90% of people are falling for, and you're on the right side of the game, we'll be back on par (if - and this is a big if - I'm wrong about that one!) Until then, I will enjoy the irony! :cool:
What a ridiculous comparison. Covid was all about control and deceit, and most people were not equipped to do the investigation for themselves. Globe Earth is easily discernible from the application of basic physics.
 

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Human beings require a surface on which to live that, in its general character, shall be LEVEL; and since the Omniscient Creator must have been perfectly acquainted with the requirements of His creatures, it follows that, being an All-wise Creator, He has met them thoroughly. This is a theological proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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The best possessions of man are his senses; and, when he uses them all, he will not be deceived in his survey of nature. It is only when some one faculty or other is neglected or abused that he is deluded. Every man in full command of his senses knows that a level surface is a flat or horizontal one; but astronomers tell us that the true level is the curved surface of a globe! They know that man requires a level surface on which to live, so they give him one in name which is not one in fact! Since this is the best that astronomers, with their theoretical science, can do for their fellow creatures—deceive them—it is clear that things are not as they say they are; and, in short, it is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

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very man in his senses goes the most reasonable way to work to do a thing. Now, astronomers (one after another—following a leader), while they are telling us that Earth is a globe, are cutting off the upper half of this supposititious globe in their books, and, in this way, forming the level surface on which they describe man as living and moving! Now, if the Earth were really a globe, this would be just the most unreasonable and suicidal mode of endeavoring to show it. So that, unless theoretical astronomers are all out of their senses together, it is, clearly, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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We're living in a new paradigm, now. Those who were wrong about the covid vaccine hoax don't get to lecture those who were right about credibility. At least, not without stirring up much amusement due to the irony. Next time there's a world-wide hoax that 90% of people are falling for, and you're on the right side of the game, we'll be back on par (if - and this is a big if - I'm wrong about that one!) Until then, I will enjoy the irony! :cool:
I believe a higher percentage of those who believe the earth is a globe took the covid inoculation, versus those who don't believe the earth is a globe.
 
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I believe a higher percentage of those who believe the earth is a globe took the covid inoculation, versus those who don't believe the earth is a globe.
I've heard that old scientific paradigms aren't suddenly replaced by the new when the old is shown to be faulty. What happens is that the old (and often false) paradigms die out with their disciples, with the younger generation of scientists asking "Why would anyone believe that?"

I believe pride and habit (through indoctrination) are the main obstacles preventing a more rapid preference for Flat Earth over Ball Earth by the thinking population. Give this situation another 10 - 20 years, and I wouldn't be surprised to find the Globalists in the minority.

I've sort of seen this already with Evolutionism in my lifetime. Any atheist pushing Evolutionism in a fair debate is going to be struggling against a Creationist, given the knowledge we have today. I think it will be much the same with globalists in a decade or so, if we continue as we have.
 

Gideon300

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I've heard that old scientific paradigms aren't suddenly replaced by the new when the old is shown to be faulty. What happens is that the old (and often false) paradigms die out with their disciples, with the younger generation of scientists asking "Why would anyone believe that?"

I believe pride and habit (through indoctrination) are the main obstacles preventing a more rapid preference for Flat Earth over Ball Earth by the thinking population. Give this situation another 10 - 20 years, and I wouldn't be surprised to find the Globalists in the minority.

I've sort of seen this already with Evolutionism in my lifetime. Any atheist pushing Evolutionism in a fair debate is going to be struggling against a Creationist, given the knowledge we have today. I think it will be much the same with globalists in a decade or so, if we continue as we have.
Sure, people will be standing on the moon, looking at the earth and saying, "How can something so flat appear so much like a globe?" The only reason that FE will flourish is the ignorance and gullibility of a generation that has forsaken truth and reason.

It won't be all that long before the moon becomes a travel destination. That's if the world does not degenerate into total war. The cost of space travel is declining and tourists have already been into space. If you have half a million dollars to spare, you could go yourself.
 

Dino246

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I believe pride and habit (through indoctrination) are the main obstacles preventing a more rapid preference for Flat Earth over Ball Earth by the thinking population.
I believe common sense, general understanding of science, and insistence on sound evidence preserves us from a more widespread acceptance of a flat Earth.

I believe that, just like KJV-onlyism (with which it shares a significant portion of followers), flat-Earthism is characterized by a stubborn unwillingness to look at the evidence objectively and respond to it honestly.
 
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Sure, people will be standing on the moon, looking at the earth and saying, "How can something so flat appear so much like a globe?" The only reason that FE will flourish is the ignorance and gullibility of a generation that has forsaken truth and reason.

It won't be all that long before the moon becomes a travel destination. That's if the world does not degenerate into total war. The cost of space travel is declining and tourists have already been into space. If you have half a million dollars to spare, you could go yourself.
Lol Gideon. Usually I find your posts snide, but this one made me laugh. No, tourists haven't been into "space". But if you've been convinced by NASA's expensive optical wizardry, I don't think I'll be able to convince you otherwise with real science and a budget of just a few bucks.
 

Gideon300

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Lol Gideon. Usually I find your posts snide, but this one made me laugh. No, tourists haven't been into "space". But if you've been convinced by NASA's expensive optical wizardry, I don't think I'll be able to convince you otherwise with real science and a budget of just a few bucks.
Now you make me laugh. Real science? The FE community knows nothing of real science.
 

Publican

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Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.
I don't know what translation you are using, but its a very poor one.

Circle of the earth would be much more accurate.
 

Publican

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Let's be honest, we are dealing with cult followers, who are guided by a yoga instructor, who "authored" a book about flat earth, using memes. Now that we know where this bear scat is coming from, it all makes sense. lol

You wonder where are all the great memes are coming from?!?! A yoga instructor. Yup! lol


Here, creating a flat earth meme right now...


If your learning science from a yoga instructor.......

You maybe a flat earther.
I presume you are speaking of Eric Dubay. Eric Dubay is s strange man, granted. But he did not invent flat earth. But if you visit his website, I believe he has an extensive list of source materials available. Some of which would be textbooks from the late 19th and early 20th centuries which still taught flat earth. .

I would wager that you have never watched one of Mr. Dubays videos all the way through, and you probable never will, because your mind has already been made up. If I am mistaken, please forgive the presumption, you're exceptional.

You say, "let's be honest." And then proceed to accuse your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ of being cult members. I assure you, flat earth is not a cult. And no two flat earthers are alike. We come from every walk of life and every field of employment, we are preachers, pastors, doctors, lawyers, truck drivers, and even respected theologians. For whatever that's worth.

Here's a flat earther you may have heard of, A.W. Pink. I have a copy of A.W. Pinks commentary on the book of Hebrews, where he specifically denies the globe theory as a "popular delusion."

Here's another quote from Mr. Pink, "the writer is well aware that this paragraph may evoke a pitying smile from some, but that will not move him. Let God be true and every man a liar."
Exposition of Hebrews (one of the most Christ honoring tomes ever penned) page 72 paragraph 3
By A.W.Pink
Baker Book House 1954

Was our brother A.W. a cult member? He was no fool, I guarantee you that. Neither was he alone in his beliefs concerning flat earth.

So let's be honest as you suggested.

You hold us in derision and question our faith, because unlike you, we dared not only to question the obvious lies we have been told, but to investigate them.

We are commanded to judge things righteously. Condemnation prior to investigation is not righteous judgment. We are also instructed to examine fruit. Are you aware of just how many people have come to Christ because of flat earth? Go read the comments in any flat earth forum, the testimonies will amaze you. Flat earth is an idea, and most of us who hold to that idea, have no interest in putting anyone down, much less questioning their faith.
 

Publican

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"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" - Albert Einstein

 

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The common sense of man tells him—if nothing else told him—that there is an “up” and a “down” in nature, even as regards the heavens and the earth; but the theory of modern astronomers necessitates the conclusion that there is not: therefore, the theory of the astronomers is opposed to common sense—yes, and to inspiration—and this is a common sense proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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Man’s experience tells him that he is not constructed like the flies that can live and move upon the ceiling of a room with as much safety as on the floor: and since the modern theory of a planetary earth necessitates a crowd of theories to keep company with it, and one of them is that men are really bound to the earth by a force which fastens them to it “like needles round a spherical lodestone,” a theory perfectly outrageous and opposed to all human experience, it follows that, unless we can trample upon common sense and ignore the teachings of experience, we have an evident proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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God’s Truth never—no, never—requires a falsehood to help it along. Mr. Proctor, in his “Lessons,” says: Men “have been able to go round and round the Earth in several directions.” Now, in this case, the word “several” will imply more than two, unquestionably: whereas, it is utterly impossible to circumnavigate the Earth in any other than an easterly or a westerly direction; and the fact is perfectly consistent and clear in its relation to Earth as a Plane. Now, since astronomers would not be so foolish as to damage a good cause by misrepresentation, it is presumptive evidence that their cause is a bad one, and—a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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I believe common sense, general understanding of science, and insistence on sound evidence preserves us from a more widespread acceptance of a flat Earth.

I believe that, just like KJV-onlyism (with which it shares a significant portion of followers), flat-Earthism is characterized by a stubborn unwillingness to look at the evidence objectively and respond to it honestly.

Neither group listens to God. If they did, they'd be able to read the Bible the way God wants them to.

The flat-earthers can't discern when to read the passages in the Bible as literal or figurative. While the KJV-only idolizes a translation over the guidance of the Holy Spirit (who would give them the ability to learn from any translation as He sees fit).


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1 Chronicles 16:30
Let all the earth be moved at his presence: for he hath founded the world immoveable.
 

Gideon300

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1 Chronicles 16:30
Let all the earth be moved at his presence: for he hath founded the world immoveable.
So the earth can be moved but it can't be moved. Not confusing much.

Also, the world is not the same as it was when God created it. Maybe the earth was not rotating to begin with. We were not there so we do not know. Maybe it started spinning when Jesus came to earth. It moves at His presence! Except it's immovable. Go figure.