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You have the right to hold to your wrong view. I respect everyone's right to an opinion even whey they are wrong.
But one of the reasons for discussion is to clarify. Your insistence that you "don't need to clarify SQUAT!" is not conducive to communications or discussion. It's recalcitrant.
In this discussion, it means you refuse to clarify your position on anti-Semitism even as you assert that there exists a satanic global talmudic Pharisitical conspiracy and that the Catholic church and all major economic and political powers are involved.
Historically, this type of assertion in an anti-Semitism context has resulted in terrible atrocities on Jewish people.
Which is why we'd love to know your position on anti-Semitism. It's a fine line and we don't know which side of it you're on... because you refuse to clarify it for us.
For all we know strangelove...
But one of the reasons for discussion is to clarify. Your insistence that you "don't need to clarify SQUAT!" is not conducive to communications or discussion. It's recalcitrant.
In this discussion, it means you refuse to clarify your position on anti-Semitism even as you assert that there exists a satanic global talmudic Pharisitical conspiracy and that the Catholic church and all major economic and political powers are involved.
Historically, this type of assertion in an anti-Semitism context has resulted in terrible atrocities on Jewish people.
Which is why we'd love to know your position on anti-Semitism. It's a fine line and we don't know which side of it you're on... because you refuse to clarify it for us.
For all we know strangelove...
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Are you aware of the intrinsic historical link between the Jewish people and Judaism?
In any event, you appear to be unaware of how your assertion that certain religious Jews and a central text of Judaism (e.g. the Talmud) being the source of a satanic global Jewish talmudic Pharisitical conpsiracy in control of all world institutions and Christian/Catholic mainstream institutions could be conceived as anti-Semitic (not to mention false) by many people.
Merriam-Webster defines anti-Semitism as hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.
Historically, the link between Jewish people and Judaism (the "religion, philosophy, and way of life" of the Jewish people [reference Wiki Judaism]) has been an integral one.
The Jews have often been persecuted, both in antiquity and after Christ, throughout history for practicing religious Judaism and failing to abandon it.
Scholars assert that for much of Jewish history, Jewishness and being a Jew were inextricably tied to religious Judaism and that only in modern times has a new Jew emerged integrally and biologically part of larger societies.
Historically, religious persecution has been a major factor (and sometimes the defining factor) in the persecution of the Jewish people.
Typically the people that I've engaged (or authors I've read) that have asserted a satanic global talmudic Jewish Pharisitical conspiracy: are anti-Semitic.
And everyone that I've ever talked to that's run across the conspiracy online, in print, or in person has said the same thing about those expousing it.
Given the large number of anti-Semitic people in the world claiming the conspiracy you advocate, asking for clarification of your position on anti-Semitism is a natural and logical extension of the discussion as it provides a possible ulterior motive for holding to such a conspiracy that transcends the 'attacking the motive' fallicy (in other words in argumentation theory it is permitted to ask for and gather information if it might provide a real ulterior motive but it is fallicious to make the accusation without evidence).
Your refusal to provide a clarification of your own position regarding anti-Semitism doesn't mean you have a position one way or the other but it doesn't rule out that you possibly could be an anti-Semite which might be a real ulterior motive behind holding to such a fantastic conspiracy theory which, by the way, you have failed to prove or provide adequate evidence for despite being asked repeatedly for it.
I hope you have found this informative and I look forward to the day that you both clarify your view on anti-Semtisim and provide material emperical scholarly evidence proving your theory so that we may qualify it.
In any event, you appear to be unaware of how your assertion that certain religious Jews and a central text of Judaism (e.g. the Talmud) being the source of a satanic global Jewish talmudic Pharisitical conpsiracy in control of all world institutions and Christian/Catholic mainstream institutions could be conceived as anti-Semitic (not to mention false) by many people.
Merriam-Webster defines anti-Semitism as hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group.
Historically, the link between Jewish people and Judaism (the "religion, philosophy, and way of life" of the Jewish people [reference Wiki Judaism]) has been an integral one.
The Jews have often been persecuted, both in antiquity and after Christ, throughout history for practicing religious Judaism and failing to abandon it.
Scholars assert that for much of Jewish history, Jewishness and being a Jew were inextricably tied to religious Judaism and that only in modern times has a new Jew emerged integrally and biologically part of larger societies.
Historically, religious persecution has been a major factor (and sometimes the defining factor) in the persecution of the Jewish people.
Typically the people that I've engaged (or authors I've read) that have asserted a satanic global talmudic Jewish Pharisitical conspiracy: are anti-Semitic.
And everyone that I've ever talked to that's run across the conspiracy online, in print, or in person has said the same thing about those expousing it.
Given the large number of anti-Semitic people in the world claiming the conspiracy you advocate, asking for clarification of your position on anti-Semitism is a natural and logical extension of the discussion as it provides a possible ulterior motive for holding to such a conspiracy that transcends the 'attacking the motive' fallicy (in other words in argumentation theory it is permitted to ask for and gather information if it might provide a real ulterior motive but it is fallicious to make the accusation without evidence).
Your refusal to provide a clarification of your own position regarding anti-Semitism doesn't mean you have a position one way or the other but it doesn't rule out that you possibly could be an anti-Semite which might be a real ulterior motive behind holding to such a fantastic conspiracy theory which, by the way, you have failed to prove or provide adequate evidence for despite being asked repeatedly for it.
I hope you have found this informative and I look forward to the day that you both clarify your view on anti-Semtisim and provide material emperical scholarly evidence proving your theory so that we may qualify it.
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Age do you mean antisemite or anti jew? America is becoming antisemite seeing that there are more semites outside
Israels borders than inside, that they want to war against. More clarification might be needed. Also why are more and more
Torah following jews across the world standing up(in fear) and speaking out against the impostors in Israel?
Israels borders than inside, that they want to war against. More clarification might be needed. Also why are more and more
Torah following jews across the world standing up(in fear) and speaking out against the impostors in Israel?
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"Anti-semitism refers specifically to prejudice against Jews alone despite the fact that there are other speakers of Semitic languages (e.g. Arabs, Ethiopians, or Assyrians) and that not all Jews speak a Semitic language." -"Anti-Semitism", Encyclopaedia Britannica, 2006.
The answer to your question is that "for much of Jewish history, Jewishness and being a Jew were inextricably tied to religious Judaism and that only in modern times has a new Jew emerged integrally and biologically part of larger societies."
In statistics, we plot observable deviations from the mean based on emperical factors. The above is an emperical factor and an obvious dependency correlation for that behavior.
The answer to your question is that "for much of Jewish history, Jewishness and being a Jew were inextricably tied to religious Judaism and that only in modern times has a new Jew emerged integrally and biologically part of larger societies."
In statistics, we plot observable deviations from the mean based on emperical factors. The above is an emperical factor and an obvious dependency correlation for that behavior.
alright.
i'm going to believe the best about you.
it was a dreadful joke.
asserting to a Talmudic Global plan of Domination is agreeing with the Bible, for one thing. Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem.
and i know verywell ppl view that as antisemitic. deal with it everday.
we have been trying to show you the reality, but you have ridiculed and rejected what we have been saying.
so as for clarifying: what would make you happy? if i said some of my best friends are jewish?
this isnt about JEWS.
its about the religion of The Pharisees, who since 700AD haven't been semitic peoples: ever. but you don't know about any of that because you reject and ridicule what we say.
my views on antisemitism:
a word invented to innoculate a group of people from criticism.
semites are people who racially are peoples who have generationally lived in the region of Palestine.
today arabs are semitic people, as are sephardic jews, and some others.'
ashkenzai jews (white) WERE NEVER AND ARE NOT NOW SEMITIC PEOPLE.(i am racially ashkenazi on maternal side)
i'm going to believe the best about you.
it was a dreadful joke.
asserting to a Talmudic Global plan of Domination is agreeing with the Bible, for one thing. Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem.
and i know verywell ppl view that as antisemitic. deal with it everday.
we have been trying to show you the reality, but you have ridiculed and rejected what we have been saying.
so as for clarifying: what would make you happy? if i said some of my best friends are jewish?
this isnt about JEWS.
its about the religion of The Pharisees, who since 700AD haven't been semitic peoples: ever. but you don't know about any of that because you reject and ridicule what we say.
my views on antisemitism:
a word invented to innoculate a group of people from criticism.
semites are people who racially are peoples who have generationally lived in the region of Palestine.
today arabs are semitic people, as are sephardic jews, and some others.'
ashkenzai jews (white) WERE NEVER AND ARE NOT NOW SEMITIC PEOPLE.(i am racially ashkenazi on maternal side)
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Thank you for your reply. I am happy to hear that you are not anti-Semitic and really didn't believe you were (yes I was joking) but wanted to hear it first-hand.
Now you've not really been giving me much at all to prove your theory. Other than speculation that certain events (JFK, 9/11, accelerating technology shrinking the world, your personal view on Biblcial eschatology, etc...) are the result of a few Pharisees controlling the world, what else is there? That's not going to do it.
Where is the emperical evidence that a few Pharisees are controlling the world?
THAT, I would like to see.
Thank you for replying. Peace.
Now you've not really been giving me much at all to prove your theory. Other than speculation that certain events (JFK, 9/11, accelerating technology shrinking the world, your personal view on Biblcial eschatology, etc...) are the result of a few Pharisees controlling the world, what else is there? That's not going to do it.
Where is the emperical evidence that a few Pharisees are controlling the world?
THAT, I would like to see.
Thank you for replying. Peace.
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I'm aware that after the second Jewish diaspora (e.g. first century) Pharisitical Judaism became the Rabbinic Judaism responsible for all forms of Judaism today except Karaism. With the temple unavailable to Jews once more (following the Roman induced Jewish diaspora), it was entirely predictable that would occur.
So Rabbinical Judaism exists in the world... so does Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, atheism, etc... Where is the emperical proof that a few Pharisees control the world?
So Rabbinical Judaism exists in the world... so does Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, atheism, etc... Where is the emperical proof that a few Pharisees control the world?
i'd like to know why the definition excludes others who "speak semitic languages"? LOL!
languages?
that's a scream.
how about peoples period.
that's what this is about. that term is reserved (they say for jews) but the big joke is ashkenazis are not semitic peoples.they never were....they are not biblical hebrews. and that's fine.
but they're not and never were SEMITIC.
....now what? so what's really going on?
the Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Anti-Semitism (CPCCA):
While the CPCCA’s final report does contain some cases of real anti-Semitism, the committee has provided little evidence that anti-Semitism has actually increased in Canada in recent years. Instead, it has focused a disproportionate amount of effort and resources on what it calls a so-called “new anti-Semitism”: criticism of Israel.
Canada: Criticism of Israel is Anti-Semitism | US FoPo & the Middle East
The ADL maintains that some forms of Anti-Zionism and criticism of Israel are actually anti-Semitism. The Anti-Defamation League states:
OH WELL NOW.....
now we're at the heart of the matter.
so, according ADL, even thoguh 90% of jews are not semitic, i may be considered antisemitic, and do 6 years in prison, where a precedent setting case in Canada said the defendent was guilty reagrdless of the facts, because THE TRUTH IS NO DEFENSE"
so, if i criticize Israel's FASCISM, i am antisemitic.
2+2=5 AND YOU BETTER SHUT UP AND AGREE.
well, AoK, when it comes to fascism, no sale for me. a fascist is a fascist is a fascist: no matter the language race or religion.
Ze'ev (Zeev) Jabotinsky-A Brief Biography & Quotes
i'm not bothering this time to link to a hundred pages of articles, history and images of Israel's fascism.
just google images yourself and watch soldiers smash the arms and legs of women in their fields, using boulders.
or a nice big concrete wall with razor wire and sniper towers to keep non-jews (real semites) out.
i'll post later on all that. i've already posted on Operation Cast Lead where CIVILIANS trapped in ghettos had WHITE PHOSPHOROUS SPRAYED ALL OVER THEM from above. just look for yourself.
why did they do it? because little boys throw pop bottles and rocks at men who shoot at them IN THEIR OWN HOMES that they have lived in for generations....hundreds of generations. while ashkenazi jews whose forefathers never once breathed the air in Palestine in 3000 years or 5000 years or at any time until 1948 came in and displaced and murdered 800,000 palestinians because Israel IS ONLY FOR JEWS.
and it continues today.
with America's stamp of approval. not confined anymore to Palestine, this idea ("democracy") is now regional policy.
STUDY THE BABYLONIAN TALMUD to find out why this is OKAY. why it is COMMANDED - kill AMALEK (gentiles), or the King's "Torah" that says it is permissable and good to kill arab baby boys because they MIGHT grow up to "cause trouble" for jews.
FASCISM by any standard in this world.
now go here and browse around: see what is in store for YOU christian:
Hasidic University
Universal Theocratic Law
for Non-Jews
(620 commandments)
languages?
that's a scream.
how about peoples period.
that's what this is about. that term is reserved (they say for jews) but the big joke is ashkenazis are not semitic peoples.they never were....they are not biblical hebrews. and that's fine.
but they're not and never were SEMITIC.
....now what? so what's really going on?
the Canadian Parliamentary Coalition to Combat Anti-Semitism (CPCCA):
While the CPCCA’s final report does contain some cases of real anti-Semitism, the committee has provided little evidence that anti-Semitism has actually increased in Canada in recent years. Instead, it has focused a disproportionate amount of effort and resources on what it calls a so-called “new anti-Semitism”: criticism of Israel.
Canada: Criticism of Israel is Anti-Semitism | US FoPo & the Middle East
The ADL maintains that some forms of Anti-Zionism and criticism of Israel are actually anti-Semitism. The Anti-Defamation League states:
"Criticism of particular Israeli actions or policies in and of itself does not constitute anti-Semitism. Certainly the sovereign State of Israel can be legitimately criticized just like any other country in the world. However, it is undeniable that there are those whose criticism of Israel or of "Zionism" is used to mask anti-Semitism."[5]
Anti-Defamation League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
OH WELL NOW.....
now we're at the heart of the matter.
so, according ADL, even thoguh 90% of jews are not semitic, i may be considered antisemitic, and do 6 years in prison, where a precedent setting case in Canada said the defendent was guilty reagrdless of the facts, because THE TRUTH IS NO DEFENSE"
so, if i criticize Israel's FASCISM, i am antisemitic.
2+2=5 AND YOU BETTER SHUT UP AND AGREE.
well, AoK, when it comes to fascism, no sale for me. a fascist is a fascist is a fascist: no matter the language race or religion.
Ze'ev (Zeev) Jabotinsky-A Brief Biography & Quotes
i'm not bothering this time to link to a hundred pages of articles, history and images of Israel's fascism.
just google images yourself and watch soldiers smash the arms and legs of women in their fields, using boulders.
or a nice big concrete wall with razor wire and sniper towers to keep non-jews (real semites) out.
i'll post later on all that. i've already posted on Operation Cast Lead where CIVILIANS trapped in ghettos had WHITE PHOSPHOROUS SPRAYED ALL OVER THEM from above. just look for yourself.
why did they do it? because little boys throw pop bottles and rocks at men who shoot at them IN THEIR OWN HOMES that they have lived in for generations....hundreds of generations. while ashkenazi jews whose forefathers never once breathed the air in Palestine in 3000 years or 5000 years or at any time until 1948 came in and displaced and murdered 800,000 palestinians because Israel IS ONLY FOR JEWS.
and it continues today.
with America's stamp of approval. not confined anymore to Palestine, this idea ("democracy") is now regional policy.
STUDY THE BABYLONIAN TALMUD to find out why this is OKAY. why it is COMMANDED - kill AMALEK (gentiles), or the King's "Torah" that says it is permissable and good to kill arab baby boys because they MIGHT grow up to "cause trouble" for jews.
FASCISM by any standard in this world.
now go here and browse around: see what is in store for YOU christian:
Hasidic University
Universal Theocratic Law
for Non-Jews
(620 commandments)
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let's talk a little about bolshevism (funded out of NY), which overthrew christian russia.
we know our history, don't we?
do we know how many people have been killed by communism? i'll get to that later.
here's what happened in russia as soon as the bolsheviks took power: oddly, one of the first laws they passed was A LAW AGAINST ANTISEMITISM, PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.
now doesn't that seem odd?
Researcher Wayne McGuire of Harvard University writes: "Lenin was a Jew by the standards of Israel's Law of Return: he possessed a Jewish grandparent. It would seem that not only was Lenin a Jew, but that he was a Jewish racist and chauvinist, although he kept his ideas on this volatile subject far in the background, probably because they were in radical conflict with the supposed universalism of Marxism. ...Lenin was a Jewish racist who deliberately gave Jews especially, the most 'intellectually demanding tasks.' He admitted that 50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews."
Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
The top Communist Judaic official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and Vólodarsky, let there be floods of the blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!" (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
The Judaic Bolsheviks regarded politics as a branch of Gentile pest control. Hatred of Christians, especially the peasant "bourgeoisie" was their prime motivation. The systematic destruction of the Christian peasantry of Russia as so many vermin, beginning with Lenin's attack on them in the summer of 1918 and his forced starvation in 1921, has been almost completely ignored in Western history
Judaic Communism: The Documentary Record
if you have a problem with Michael Hoffman, who was raised as a jew but is now a Christian, and whose scholarship is impecable, do your own research. the facts don't change...they just get a little harder to find.
Hidden Works of Darkness Brought to Public Light
this would only be so much history to me, except DISPENSATIONAL CHRISTIANS incredibly believe the religion they love and support as Moses and the prophets is a DESPICABLE ABOMINATION FROM BABYLON that is ANTICHRIST AT ITS VERY CORE:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":
click on the link and look around at THE NOAHIDE LAWS...that's what's coming for you and me.
we know our history, don't we?
do we know how many people have been killed by communism? i'll get to that later.
here's what happened in russia as soon as the bolsheviks took power: oddly, one of the first laws they passed was A LAW AGAINST ANTISEMITISM, PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.
now doesn't that seem odd?
Researcher Wayne McGuire of Harvard University writes: "Lenin was a Jew by the standards of Israel's Law of Return: he possessed a Jewish grandparent. It would seem that not only was Lenin a Jew, but that he was a Jewish racist and chauvinist, although he kept his ideas on this volatile subject far in the background, probably because they were in radical conflict with the supposed universalism of Marxism. ...Lenin was a Jewish racist who deliberately gave Jews especially, the most 'intellectually demanding tasks.' He admitted that 50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews."
Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
The top Communist Judaic official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and Vólodarsky, let there be floods of the blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!" (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
The Judaic Bolsheviks regarded politics as a branch of Gentile pest control. Hatred of Christians, especially the peasant "bourgeoisie" was their prime motivation. The systematic destruction of the Christian peasantry of Russia as so many vermin, beginning with Lenin's attack on them in the summer of 1918 and his forced starvation in 1921, has been almost completely ignored in Western history
Judaic Communism: The Documentary Record
if you have a problem with Michael Hoffman, who was raised as a jew but is now a Christian, and whose scholarship is impecable, do your own research. the facts don't change...they just get a little harder to find.
Hidden Works of Darkness Brought to Public Light
this would only be so much history to me, except DISPENSATIONAL CHRISTIANS incredibly believe the religion they love and support as Moses and the prophets is a DESPICABLE ABOMINATION FROM BABYLON that is ANTICHRIST AT ITS VERY CORE:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":
- He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
- He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
- He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
click on the link and look around at THE NOAHIDE LAWS...that's what's coming for you and me.