Unable to Believe the “Foolish” Gospel

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Genez

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The book of John?

3:16
5:24
6:40

Romans 10:9-10?

Believing on the Lord Jesus is not a work.

It is.. led by the Holy Spirit.. changing your mind, heart, about Jesus, and entrusting your salvation with Him.

If you believe in salvation before belief, it doesn't mesh with the book of John..plus a whole load of other verses.

A lost person can choose to change their mind about many many things. But you say they can't believe on Jesus Christ?

I understand some verses that include the word save and deliverance arent about eternal salvation because already converted people are being addressed, but that doesn't cover all verses about believing on Jesus Christ for eternal life.
At one time I thought what Christians whom I knew believed was nice. But foolish.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#42
You know what else the Bible doesn't say? That you saved yourself through your own will, desire, effort, or choice.
I wonder why you deliberately keep ignoring verses that explicitly say what you keep denying.



1 Corinthians 4:7b; John 3:27; Romans 9:15-16 What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did also receive it, why do you boast as not having received it? John replied, "A man can receive only that which is given him from heaven." "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." So then, it does not depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
:)
“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing:

therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If they chose either life or death , are they rejecting Gods Will and applying thier own ? Or did he express his Will to them and then they are given the choice ?

to hear what God said will save our souls. And believe we’re supposed to do that isn’t rejecting his Will and applying our own claiming we’ve saved ourselves what saves is to hear his Will and choose the promise of life he offers

to hear what God said will save our souls , reject it and claim it’s not the right way that would be trying to save ourself by our own Will rejecting his
 

JohnRH

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#43
Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Acts 2:40 (KJV)
 

Magenta

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#44
“I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing:

therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If they chose either life or death , are they rejecting Gods Will and applying thier own ? Or did he express his Will to them and then they are given the choice ?

to hear what God said will save our souls. And believe we’re supposed to do that isn’t rejecting his Will and applying our own claiming we’ve saved ourselves what saves is to hear his Will and choose the promise of life he offers

to hear what God said will save our souls , reject it and claim it’s not the right way that would be trying to save ourself by our own Will rejecting his
Thank God for Jesus! He opened my eyes and ears... thank you God, for circumcising my heart, so I could love You...


Praise the Lord
:)
 

Pilgrimshope

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#45
Thank God for Jesus! He opened my eyes and ears... thank you God, for circumcising my heart, so I could love You...


Praise the Lord
:)
“Let every thing that hath breath Praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭150:6‬ ‭😍
 

Pilgrimshope

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#47

Psalm 150:6 plus Job 12:7-10
:D
O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: Because his mercy endureth for ever.

The right hand of the LORD is exalted: The right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.

I shall not die, but live, And declare the works of the LORD. The LORD hath chastened me sore: But he hath not given me over unto death.

Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD: This gate of the LORD, Into which the righteous shall enter.

I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, And art become my salvation.

The stone which the builders refused Is become the head stone of the corner. This is the LORD's doing; It is marvellous in our eyes.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭118:1, 16-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:9‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“Unto you therefore which believe he is precious:

but unto them which be disobedient, The stone which the builders disallowed, The same is made the head of the corner,”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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#48
You know what else the Bible doesn't say? That you saved yourself through your own will, desire, effort, or choice.
I wonder why you deliberately keep ignoring verses that explicitly say what you keep denying.



1 Corinthians 4:7b; John 3:27; Romans 9:15-16 What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did also receive it, why do you boast as not having received it? John replied, "A man can receive only that which is given him from heaven." "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." So then, it does not depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
:)
Then the jailer was misinformed.
What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved and all your household. He wasn't told you don't have to do anything , if God chose you, you're already saved.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#50
Then the jailer was misinformed.
What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved and all your household. He wasn't told you don't have to do anything , if God chose you, you're already saved.
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬