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TMS

TMS

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
As well as the 10 commandments hidden inside the gold-covered wooden ark. You really can't separate the tablets of stone from the ark that foreshadows Christ and the righteousness of God indwelling him

But now the righteousness of God apart from law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Romans 3:21-22​
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The shadow laws were nailed to the cross.

The laws of love are from the OT
Lev 19:18 ...., but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

And the 10 commandments are principles of love that apply today.

They are quoted in the NT many times and it is clear that they were not nailed to the cross.

Jesus said "if you love me keep my commandments". We disagree on what these commandments are but the motive is clear and there is nothing wrong with obeying because you love someone.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Mat 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

The devil is a deceiver and has done so for 6000 years plus. He wants to make the commandments of God void.

The commandments of God (which quotes one of the 10) are being made of none effect by the tradition of man again.

Traditions say the ten commandments are not valid.
But that is not what the Bible teaches.
 
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The Holy Spirit and God's law are not in conflict with each other they work in tandem.

The Holy Spirit convicts us of sin John 16:8 for breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 if we hear His voice Heb 3:7-8
The Spirit resides in the individual who obeys His commandments, why its conditional


John 14:15 “If you love Me, [d]keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

1 John 3:24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

Acts 5:32 And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.”
 
Aaron56

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TMS said:
God loves us no less today.
And if God gave Israel the simple law why can't He let us read it too.
Jesus is the perfect illustration of God's character and love. But that does not mean all the other illustrations are made void.
The stories in the OT are a testimony of God's character and love.
The law also reveals God's character and love.

Jesus does not make the law void..

Jesus perfectly kept it and tells us to obey it too.

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
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Again, another straw man. You say something I didn't say and the defeat your own idea. :rolleyes:

That's okay. My post was for the spiritual believers not the carnal.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
How can you be so presumptuous to think that you can do something that Peter nor Paul could not do? They called the law an unbearable yoke of slavery.

Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Acts 15:10-11​
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Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Galatians 5:1-3​
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Acts 15:10-11 Why do you test God by placing on the necks of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear? On the contrary, we believe it is through the grace of the Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.
 
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