Explain it as Protestant... You, not everyone
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Questions about Adam and Eve
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Yes, I would say so, and even Catholics believe that.
Catholicism has beliefs they are mandated to believe that protestants do not accept, but they are not about Adam and Eve so much.
A lot of them are about Mary, the mother of Jesus, whom Catholics elevate above others instead of affirming what Scripture says, which is that she is blessed AMONG women. One of the things they say is she is the second Eve, the mother of all, and queen of heaven. None of that has any Scriptural basis. They also are mandated to believe she was conceived without sin so that Jesus could be born sinless (He did not need her help!), and assumed bodily (alive to heaven, never died) again nowhere in the Bible.
Catholicism has beliefs they are mandated to believe that protestants do not accept, but they are not about Adam and Eve so much.
A lot of them are about Mary, the mother of Jesus, whom Catholics elevate above others instead of affirming what Scripture says, which is that she is blessed AMONG women. One of the things they say is she is the second Eve, the mother of all, and queen of heaven. None of that has any Scriptural basis. They also are mandated to believe she was conceived without sin so that Jesus could be born sinless (He did not need her help!), and assumed bodily (alive to heaven, never died) again nowhere in the Bible.
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As a protestant, are you agree with me in below? Yes or No.
Or give me what you think if no
The children of Adam multiplied and as the population grew, and when there were many people seeking sustenance, they had to spread out across the Earth. Thus, new communities began; and this resulted in the formation of various human societies and the continued expansion of the human race. Over time, some of these communities moved much far and there was little contact between each community and the other. Hence new languages gradually came into existence; new lifestyles and cultures developed over a long period of time.
Or give me what you think if no
The children of Adam multiplied and as the population grew, and when there were many people seeking sustenance, they had to spread out across the Earth. Thus, new communities began; and this resulted in the formation of various human societies and the continued expansion of the human race. Over time, some of these communities moved much far and there was little contact between each community and the other. Hence new languages gradually came into existence; new lifestyles and cultures developed over a long period of time.
Haha I added to my previous post some of those beliefs. Another one would be they believe
Peter was the first pope and that Jesus built the church on the man Peter and not the confession
of faith in Jesus Christ as Messiah that Peter made. This is a fairly important distinction lost on
many Catholics, for Peter (Petros) does mean rock but the church is built upon the rock of Christ.
He is the foundation stone and a stumbling block to many.
Jesus said, “You are Petros (Peter), and upon this petra, I will build my church.”
Jesus is the rock. Many verses affirm there is no rock but God and Jesus is God.
1 Corinthians 10:4
And all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
Peter was the first pope and that Jesus built the church on the man Peter and not the confession
of faith in Jesus Christ as Messiah that Peter made. This is a fairly important distinction lost on
many Catholics, for Peter (Petros) does mean rock but the church is built upon the rock of Christ.
He is the foundation stone and a stumbling block to many.
Jesus said, “You are Petros (Peter), and upon this petra, I will build my church.”
Jesus is the rock. Many verses affirm there is no rock but God and Jesus is God.
1 Corinthians 10:4
And all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
Then,
To the communities of people who settled in different lands, God has been sending His messengers and prophets who were chosen from among the people themselves to provide teachings and guide them towards the right path, righteousness, and moral conduct. They are seen as intermediaries between God and humanity, bringing divine messages, laws, and guidance to their respective communities. These messengers and prophets are regarded as important figures in religious history and play a significant role in shaping religious beliefs and practices.
Agreed with above? or give me your perspective please.
To the communities of people who settled in different lands, God has been sending His messengers and prophets who were chosen from among the people themselves to provide teachings and guide them towards the right path, righteousness, and moral conduct. They are seen as intermediaries between God and humanity, bringing divine messages, laws, and guidance to their respective communities. These messengers and prophets are regarded as important figures in religious history and play a significant role in shaping religious beliefs and practices.
Agreed with above? or give me your perspective please.
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Then,
This is stated clearly in many verses of religious texts, including the Holy Books. When messengers and prophets passed away, people who followed them differed among themselves in the understanding and interpretation of the Guidance they had received from God through those prophets. Additionally, there is some individuals, driven by personal motives such as greed or ill will, intentionally distort the true teachings of the religion for their own selfish purposes.
Agreed?
This is stated clearly in many verses of religious texts, including the Holy Books. When messengers and prophets passed away, people who followed them differed among themselves in the understanding and interpretation of the Guidance they had received from God through those prophets. Additionally, there is some individuals, driven by personal motives such as greed or ill will, intentionally distort the true teachings of the religion for their own selfish purposes.
Agreed?
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Thus,
it was that way new religions have emerged over time as a result of differing interpretations and distortions of the original teachings. It is believed that in response to these developments, God has sent messengers and prophets to call people back to the original, pure form of religion. Nevertheless, these messengers and prophets have often faced challenges, including contempt and derision from their people. There are accounts within religious texts of God punishing the wicked with calamities as a means of divine intervention. Then, again, God continued to send His messengers and prophets to teach and guide people the true religion, as it was constantly being replaced by the innovations of mankind.
Agreed?
Jesus is also called a prophet, even in Islam He is acknowledged as a prophet, and the
people killed Him also, although He came to give His life as a ransom for many, that was
the express purpose of His incarnation, though other reasons are also given throughout the text.
I got the parable citation wrong in my earlier post. It is in Matthew 21.
Matthew 21:38-39 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let
us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
Expanded
33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round
about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves,
This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his
vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected,
the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.
people killed Him also, although He came to give His life as a ransom for many, that was
the express purpose of His incarnation, though other reasons are also given throughout the text.
I got the parable citation wrong in my earlier post. It is in Matthew 21.
Matthew 21:38-39 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let
us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
Expanded
33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round
about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves,
This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his
vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected,
the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.
It is contested whether prophets and apostles etc still exist to this day. People
who claim to be an apostle or a prophet face much derision from others here.
I am not convinced either way. I mean, some say they are and I don't believe them,
whereas others make similar claims and I reserve judgment. It is also claimed by
some that God no longer speaks to people, but I am a Christian because God
spoke to me. Actually He revealed Himself to me in a number of ways that became
increasingly difficult to deny, as I was strongly invested in my unbelief. This is actually
consistent with Biblical viewpoint, for we are told that nobody can come to God unless
He draws them, and those who are given to Jesus will come. Much discussion is generated
on these topics under the guise of "free will" as some think that if God acts unilaterally He
is a tyrant somehow forcing people against their will, whereas free will is not believed to be
taught in the Bible according to others, because all are blinded by the god of this world
(Satan), taken captive to his will, slaves to sin, lovers of darkness etc and God makes us
alive in Christ while we are dead in our sins. He circumcises our heart so we may love Him.
He opens the eyes of the blind, unstops the ears of the deaf, and raises the dead to life.
who claim to be an apostle or a prophet face much derision from others here.
I am not convinced either way. I mean, some say they are and I don't believe them,
whereas others make similar claims and I reserve judgment. It is also claimed by
some that God no longer speaks to people, but I am a Christian because God
spoke to me. Actually He revealed Himself to me in a number of ways that became
increasingly difficult to deny, as I was strongly invested in my unbelief. This is actually
consistent with Biblical viewpoint, for we are told that nobody can come to God unless
He draws them, and those who are given to Jesus will come. Much discussion is generated
on these topics under the guise of "free will" as some think that if God acts unilaterally He
is a tyrant somehow forcing people against their will, whereas free will is not believed to be
taught in the Bible according to others, because all are blinded by the god of this world
(Satan), taken captive to his will, slaves to sin, lovers of darkness etc and God makes us
alive in Christ while we are dead in our sins. He circumcises our heart so we may love Him.
He opens the eyes of the blind, unstops the ears of the deaf, and raises the dead to life.
The PRIMARY issue is that Catholics REJECT "Salvation by FAITH plus nothing else", and try to mix "Religious WORKS" in so that humans to some degree "Earn" their salvation. That was the "reformation" when Martin Luther (and others) tried (and failed) to Correct Roman Catholicism on that account.
Biblically "Religious works" don't contribute to salvation. (Eph 2:8,9)
Biblically "Religious works" don't contribute to salvation. (Eph 2:8,9)
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