Girlfriends/wives/kids is materialistic things

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ShemYoshi

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Some people teach a wife is seen as property. Whether you agree with that or not, it's materialistic.

Your flesh is even taught to be nothing more then materialistic, in contrast to your spirit which is immaterial. Your life force.

I'm convinced anything outside the spirit is not a good thing to rely on for fulfillment. I'm not saying we don't need our bodies, flesh, and we don't live in the world, but to rely on it for fulfillment is full of evils, I think this includes other people including wives and kids.

It's materialistic.

1 Corinthians 7:32-35
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32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
 
seoulsearch

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ShemYoshi said:
Some people teach a wife is seen as property. Whether you agree with that or not, it's materialistic.

Your flesh is even taught to be nothing more then materialistic, in contrast to your spirit which is immaterial. Your life force.

I'm convinced anything outside the spirit is not a good thing to rely on for fulfillment. I'm not saying we don't need our bodies, flesh, and we don't live in the world, but to rely on it for fulfillment is full of evils, I think this includes other people including wives and kids.

It's materialistic.

1 Corinthians 7:32-35
New International Version
32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
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I'm just curious, what is the point of your threads?

* Are you looking for other people to agree with you?

* Are you looking for people to argue with?

* Are you looking for people to confirm your conclusions so that you can convince yourself they're true?

* Underneath it all, are you afraid of being single for the rest of your life, and because of this, are trying to tell yourself that it's actually a spiritually superior choice?

* Are you somehow saying that those who have married and want to marry and have families are sinning or spiritually inferior, when marriage and family are clearly one option that God offers as a gift and a blessing?

I'm asking because there were some people in your other thread about "women's gross periods" who tried to make some useful points, but you dismissed every one as nonsense when compared to your own beliefs.

So if you've already made up your mind about everything, and you're not actually interested in what other people have to say, what is it you're really looking for?
 
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ShemYoshi

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seoulsearch said:
I'm just curious, what is the point of your threads?

* Are you looking for other people to agree with you?

* Are you looking for people to argue with?

* Are you looking for people to confirm your conclusions so that you can convince yourself they're true?

* Underneath it all, are you afraid of being single for the rest of your life, and because of this, are trying to tell yourself that it's actually a spiritually superior choice?

* Are you somehow saying that those who have married and want to marry and have families are sinning or spiritually inferior, when marriage and family are clearly one option that God offers as a gift and a blessing?

I'm asking because there were some people in your other thread about "women's gross periods" who tried to make some useful points, but you dismissed every one as nonsense when compared to your own beliefs.

So if you've already made up your mind about everything, and you're not actually interested in what other people have to say, what is it you're really looking for?
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The forum is like that then, eh?

Lol. I personally think people teach unbiblical things about marriage, like that is basically the point of life and it is shameful to be single.

I have no problem of living and dying unmarried. I personally think marriage will take away much freedom that I enjoy
 
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The forum is like that then, eh?

Lol. I personally think people teach unbiblical things about marriage, like that is basically the point of life and it is shameful to be single.

I have no problem of living and dying unmarried. I personally think marriage will take away much freedom that I enjoy
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Yes.

You have been stating this over and over in your other thread. So if you think you're better off single and don't want to hear anything but your own thoughts, why bother bringing it up to other people at all?

You've shown continuously in your other threads that you're not going to consider or listen to anything anyone else has to say.

This seems to mean that the only reason you're posting your ideas is to get people to argue with you, or else somehow convince othrs to believe and live as you do.

Which is fine -- it's just that you seem to see it as the only way, with no room for any other options.
 
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ShemYoshi

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seoulsearch said:
Yes.

You have been stating this over and over in your other thread. So if you think you're better off single and don't want to hear anything but your own thoughts, why bother bringing it up to other people at all?

You've shown continuously in your other threads that you're not going to consider or listen to anything anyone else has to say.

This seems to mean that the only reason you're posting your ideas is to get people to argue with you, or else somehow convince othrs to believe and live as you do.

Which is fine -- it's just that you seem to see it as the only way, with no room for any other options.
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Ya me and you don't need to carry on an conversation.

Pull the been out of your eye sister
 
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ShemYoshi said:
Ya me and you don't need to carry on an conversation.

Pull the been out of your eye sister
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Apparently you're not interested in any kind of conversation at all, because all you keep doing is repeating your own words to yourself.

As I said in your other thread, I'm truly sorry for the people who have shamed and hurt you. You're obviously very angry about it and maybe you have no way of communicating that to them, or maybe you feel it wouldn't do any good if you tried.

But coming here and trying to push your anger and hatred onto other people isn't going to help either -- it's not going to take away your shame, and it's not going to help you with all the bitterness that's eating your soul from within.

Do you ever talk to God about how much you've been hurt? You talk about avoiding marriage and kids because they're material and will distract you from Him.

How much of all this are you taking to Him rather than just snapping at anonymous people on the internet?
 
Lynx

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ShemYoshi said:
Some people teach a wife is seen as property. Whether you agree with that or not, it's materialistic.

Your flesh is even taught to be nothing more then materialistic, in contrast to your spirit which is immaterial. Your life force.

I'm convinced anything outside the spirit is not a good thing to rely on for fulfillment. I'm not saying we don't need our bodies, flesh, and we don't live in the world, but to rely on it for fulfillment is full of evils, I think this includes other people including wives and kids.

It's materialistic.

1 Corinthians 7:32-35
New International Version
32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
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I smell sour grapes.

If you want to be single, that's cool. I am 46 and still single, mostly because of indolence.

But bringing this up over and over, when nobody asked, makes it sound like you are trying to convince yourself that being single is okay.

There's nothing wrong with being single. You don't have to convince us of this. Nobody here, except possibly JohnDB, is arguing that there is anything wrong with being single.

In other words, chill dude. You are protesting too loudly. You are starting arguments nobody was arguing about.
 
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Frankly, starting all this crap like you are doing is making you seem like an MGTOW member. Not saying you are, but it's definitely what it is making you look like.
 
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seoulsearch said:
So if you've already made up your mind about everything, and you're not actually interested in what other people have to say, what is it you're really looking for?
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Well... In that other thread you DID tell him to keep us posted... :p
 
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I think this message needs to be said, I mean Paul wrote how he wished people to remain unmarried as him, was he bitter and arguing because of it? No ..

The way singles are shamed, which I have seen much of, the message ought to be said. You are better off as your unique self and ought to be appreciated for who you are, apart from single or married.
 
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Lynx said:
I smell sour grapes.

If you want to be single, that's cool. I am 46 and still single, mostly because of indolence.

But bringing this up over and over, when nobody asked, makes it sound like you are trying to convince yourself that being single is okay.

There's nothing wrong with being single. You don't have to convince us of this. Nobody here, except possibly JohnDB, is arguing that there is anything wrong with being single.

In other words, chill dude. You are protesting too loudly. You are starting arguments nobody was arguing about.
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ShemYoshi said:
I think this message needs to be said, I mean Paul wrote how he wished people to remain unmarried as him, was he bitter and arguing because of it? No .. The way singles are shamed, which I have seen much of, the message ought to be said. You are better off as your unique self and ought to be appreciated for who you are, apart from single or married.
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No, Paul wasn't writing about staying single because he was bitter. But he wasn't telling women that their periods were gross and that they "deserved" some sort of justice you seem to think you're doling out in your other thread.

I do understand what you're saying -- but that's the thing.

If you took the time to read what others are saying and look around at a few other threads here in Singles, you'd find that a vast number of single people here don't feel the pressure to get married. Some are even happy living single. Many are looking, but they're content living the way they are in the mean time. Did you even read Lynx's posts?

I know you're a new member, and it would be great to welcome you into the community.

But it's not easy when you're shooting hostility left and right at anyone who comes in and answers your threads and have no interest in what anyone else has to say.

You can't just come in like gang busters and assume everyone here is going to be like the people who are apparently putting you down and telling you to get married in other places.
 
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ShemYoshi said:
I think this message needs to be said, I mean Paul wrote how he wished people to remain unmarried as him, was he bitter and arguing because of it? No ..

The way singles are shamed, which I have seen much of, the message ought to be said. You are better off as your unique self and ought to be appreciated for who you are, apart from single or married.
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Alright. You said it. We heard it. Yet you're still carrying on. At this point you're just repeating yourself over and over. And argue with anyone who disagrees. You sound more like a troll than someone with an actual message.
 
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ShemYoshi said:
Some people teach a wife is seen as property. Whether you agree with that or not, it's materialistic.

Your flesh is even taught to be nothing more then materialistic, in contrast to your spirit which is immaterial. Your life force.

I'm convinced anything outside the spirit is not a good thing to rely on for fulfillment. I'm not saying we don't need our bodies, flesh, and we don't live in the world, but to rely on it for fulfillment is full of evils, I think this includes other people including wives and kids.

It's materialistic.

1 Corinthians 7:32-35
New International Version
32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
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If you take your point of view to it's logical conclusion, the church would suffer a great deal. At present, at least some children grow up with some knowledge of God's word, the church and Lord Jesus. I've met many people who are clueless because they grew up without any Christian influence at all.

It's between individuals and God if they choose to marry or remain single. There are as many benefits to marriage as there are negatives. I was single and happy for 25 years. I am married and happy now. I know a real man of God who turns 90 soon. He has never married. I know other godly people who have been married for decades.

Paul had a reason for making his seemingly anti marriage statements. You failed to mention this: "In view of the present distress......." Some countries persecute and even kill Christians. It's pretty safe in many other countries. It may be better not to marry in the persecuting countries. Otherwise, it's a case of "He who finds a wife finds a good thing........"

I advise against taking scripture out of context and without considering the whole passage. It leads to error and confusion.
 
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