Wow!

[Laodicea]

Well who created and finianced Islam to begin with?
Dont say Mohammed...wrong answer.

I think it is interesting to note that Islam began about the same time as the Papacy and both are church-state powers.

 

[Abiding]

I think it is interesting to note that Islam began about the same time as the Papacy and both are church-state powers.

very warm/hot...yes its more than interesting

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It wasn't Chick Publications, Alberto Rivera, and David Icke though they made it up and published it.

Islam came by way of Muhammad by way of Mecca (not Rome). -Encyclopedia of World History (1998), p. 452

"Muhammad was the founder of the religion of Islam." -'Muhammad' Maxime Rodinson (2002).

But Muslims do not view Muhammad as the creator of Islam, but instead regard him as the last messenger of God, through which the Qur'an was revealed.

In other words, Muslims view Muhammad as the restorer of the original, uncorrupted monotheistic faith of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and other prophets in which he is viewed as the last and greatest Prophet (only by Muslims of course).

For the last 22 years of his life, beginning at age 40 in 610 CE, Muhammad claimed he was receiving revelations that he believed to be from God which were memorized and recorded by his companions and eventually formed the Qur'an.

Muhammad preached to the people of Mecca, imploring them to abandon polytheism for 12 years after which they left to the city of Medina where Muhammad established his political and religious authority and there were many witnesses to this.

He wasn't a puppet of the Roman Catholic Church and the Muslims never took their orders from the Vatican and don't today. That's made up nonsense from Alberto Rivera, Chick Publications and David icke.

Please provide the names of the Pharisees controlling the world.

Well who created and finianced Islam to begin with?
Dont say Mohammed...wrong answer.

 

[Abiding]

Those who control the money

 

[SantoSubito]

I think it is interesting to note that Islam began about the same time as the Papacy and both are church-state powers.

Not particularly interesting if you ask me. In the West the Roman Empire had collapsed and the Church was struggling just to hold Europe together. Meanwhile thousand of miles away a man that lived in a pagan society with a small presence of Jews and heretical Christians had some visions in a cave. The two don't even seem remotely related, you would be better off claiming that the Eastern or Oriental Orthodox churches started Islam, at least they have geographical proximity.

Also I would be quick to remind you that you have the Catholic king Charles Martel and the Catholic Austrian and Polish Empires to thank for you not being Muslim today.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Your information is wrong so it's not interesting. The title of Pope was first given to the Patriarch of Alexandria, Pope Heracleus (232–249 AD), the 13th Alexandrine Patriarch centuries before Muhammad was even born.

I think it is interesting to note that Islam began about the same time as the Papacy and both are church-state powers.

 

[Muskokaman]

Neither. Went in 1981. After both Korea and Vietnam. That's why they call us Cold War veterans rather than Korean veterans or Vietnam veterans.

In what conflicts were you stationed then/

Talmud pharisees here goes

Rothchild
Rockefeller
Warburg

Just for starters!

 

[Consumed]

Talmud pharisees here goes

Rothchild
Rockefeller
Warburg

Just for starters!

You forgot bilderberg group

 

[Laodicea]

Your information is wrong so it's not interesting. The title of Pope was first given to the Patriarch of Alexandria, Pope Heracleus (232–249 AD), the 13th Alexandrine Patriarch centuries before Muhammad was even born.

Yes but when did the Papacy become a power and use the power of the state to enforce its doctrines? It was not until the 6th century.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Cold War veteran. No hot conflicts. Lots of drilling for the big one that thankfully never came. Not much more to say about it so you can stop asking.

So Rothchild, Rockefeller, and Warburg are part of a secret Pharisitical Talmudic organization and currently control the world. How interesting and how does it work? Do they just pick up the phone and tell the Pope what to do? Do they call up Hu Jintao and order him about?

I mean even in England the Rothschilds have no interest in the largest bank and they've pretty much donated most of their estates and art to charity not to mention they've been disinvesting their own stock to foreign investors as of late. Their aggregate position in percentage of world's wealth has slid markedly since the 19th century. They are a pro free trade conglomerate of publicly traded companies managing funds, property, and engaging in the extraction of raw materials (oil, mining, etc...) just like many large conglomerates and if they weren't wealthy Jews you'd pay them no mind.

Here check out their last public financials from 2010: Investor RelationsInvestor Relations What you'll learn is that half their revenue came from financial advising (meaning they have divested so much of their wealth to charity that they aren't living off the interest like they once did and have to provide financial services to make up for it).

Notice there total operating income for the year was only 525.9 million pounds. Not exactly enough money to control the world there. I mean a piddly backwards starving country like North Korea has a GNP of about 45 billion so how is a Rothchild going to pick up the phone and boss him around?

In what conflicts were you stationed then/

Talmud pharisees here goes

Rothchild
Rockefeller
Warburg

Just for starters!

 

[SantoSubito]

Yes but when did the Papacy become a power and use the power of the state to enforce its doctrines? It was not until the 6th century.

Then the question is the power of what state? The state had ceased to exist and was instead a bunch of small barbarian warlords each claiming a little bit of land and fighting each other like rabid dogs for domination. this would continue until the Franks managed to unite most of Western Europe. At the time the Papacy was much more worried about trying to get all these tiny Christian kingdoms to stop fighting.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Oh state power had been used in support of Christian doctrine since Constantine and the Roman Emperor Justinian marched out of constantinople and pretty much destroyed most of the urban centers, including Rome, and permanently ruined the economies in much of the West though there was the Byzantine empire in the 6th century but that's all beside the point really.

Catholicism affected some of the pagans living upon the fringes of the Empire and visa versa. Muhammad's uncle Abu Talib was a businessman involved in trade so it's possible that he went with his Uncle (or at the least heard stories of Jews and Christians and their beliefs from his Uncle) and encountered both Jews and Christians though they would have been hundreds of miles away.

Around 35 years of age, Muhammad assumed the habit of going outside of Mecca to Mt. Hira for meditation and contemplation. There was a cave where he often went for solitude. It was during one of these times of meditation that Muhammad said an angelic being appeared to him and the rest is history.

No Catholic emissary on a mission from the Pope to create a world-wide false religion. Just a nutjob in a cave pulling a "Joseph Smith."

Yes but when did the Papacy become a power and use the power of the state to enforce its doctrines? It was not until the 6th century.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It's not an executive body; no decisions are taken there. It's simply a place for discussion. The confidentiality is the same as organizational closed door cabinet meetings all over the world in the private and public sectors that enable people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions.

Prove the bilderberg group controls our government.

You forgot bilderberg group

 

[Muskokaman]

Cold War veteran. No hot conflicts. Lots of drilling for the big one that thankfully never came. Not much more to say about it so you can stop asking.

So Rothchild, Rockefeller, and Warburg are part of a secret Pharisitical Talmudic organization and currently control the world. How interesting and how does it work? Do they just pick up the phone and tell the Pope what to do? Do they call up Hu Jintao and order him about?

I mean even in England the Rothschilds have no interest in the largest bank and they've pretty much donated most of their estates and art to charity not to mention they've been disinvesting their own stock to foreign investors as of late. Their aggregate position in percentage of world's wealth has slid markedly since the 19th century. They are a pro free trade conglomerate of publicly traded companies managing funds, property, and engaging in the extraction of raw materials (oil, mining, etc...) just like many large conglomerates and if they weren't wealthy Jews you'd pay them no mind.

Here check out their last public financials from 2010: Investor RelationsInvestor Relations What you'll learn is that half their revenue came from financial advising (meaning they have divested so much of their wealth to charity that they aren't living off the interest like they once did and have to provide financial services to make up for it).

Notice there total operating income for the year was only 525.9 million pounds. Not exactly enough money to control the world there. I mean a piddly backwards starving country like North Korea has a GNP of about 45 billion so how is a Rothchild going to pick up the phone and boss him around?

You believe that false rhetoric you read in Forbes come on man they aint gonna tell you or anyone else what they got in the vaults of their dynasty driven conglomerate.
Seriously you actually believe the public financials? Hey I got some swamp land in Florida wanna buy?
Their revenue comes from financing the biggest countries of the world through their bank in Basels Switzerland the BIS is the one along with the IMF that controls the world through manipulation of the Global economy through financing of wars and other atrocities commited by nations all over the world
including yours and mine.
Wake up man see what's happening out there when all you watch is cnn for your daily diet of crap the only thing you know is crap!
Giving away trinkets and calling that charitable is well......... just that trinkets
Why do you think they are pullingb their money out of the Bank of england and selling off what land and goods they have their hmmm..............could it be social unrest which they themselves have perpetrated through devious schemes of financial debauchery.
Seen the news lately riots in England London etc. What about Chicago 2 weeks ago huh?
The Rothchild family fortune is an estimated 175 trillion dollars and some have estimated as high as 500 trillion dollars so your facts and figures you have pulled from convenient sources are quite irrelevant when compared to other sources.


You sound like a neocon to me AOK!

 

[Abiding]

I think your naive to think Rothchilds display their worth for the public
to see. There are sources that estimate there worth over 100 trillion.
And they are just one family. With many partnerships.

And the Islam story is also hearsay. Both the story and the Koran
were devised and written years after Mohammads death.

Kind of like it would be a surprise to see a system cleverly laid.Aok

 

[Abiding]

Well i have been told i was conservative Muskokaman..

 

[Muskokaman]

Well ive have been told i was conservative Muskokaman..

Hey abiding nice to read ya
Ya I'm a conservative too actually no disrespect intended!

just a pasionate post I follow the world scene fairly closely through many channels of info and I think I'm on the money on this one

 

[Abiding]

So who wrote the Koran?
Why does it sound like the Talmud?
almost word for word in places

 

[Abiding]

Hey abiding nice to read ya
Ya I'm a conservative too actually no disrespect intended!

just a pasionate post I follow the world scene fairly closely through many channels of info and I think I'm on the money on this one

Cool brother...im a beginner

 

[Muskokaman]

Cool brother...im a beginner

Really? thought you were an old pro