Isn't it that the commandments of God is for everybody?

[Pilgrimshope]

That's why I included a Pepsi.

Die a Beat us lol youe wonderful brother to know I’m glad we met

 

[Godsgood]

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If we interpret what is literally written in the bible yes, the commandments of God are intended to different groups & sectors of the society. But that is only what Man's could understand in the words of God, the literal word.

How about we ask the Lord Jesus if the commandments of God are just for different groups or sectors.

This is the answer of Jesus in our question.
As we know, one of the 10 commandments is;
You shall not commit adultery.

By taking the word Adultery literally the command is intended to wives only.
Adultery – means “the carnal relation between a married woman and a man who is not her husband, the latter knowing her to be married.”

For husband's cheating is called concubinage and not adultery.
Therefore in man's understanding all men are exempted in the commandment of You Shall Not Commit Adultery

That is why the Jews applied the commandment literally when they caught Mary Magdalene.
JOHN 8:3-5
3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?”

So it is very clear to the Jews that they are obeying God's law.

But when the Lord Jesus Christ speaks to the Jews, all of them, male & female are committing adultery.
The Lord Jesus said this not just once. Here are few verses when the Lord said this.
MATTHEW 16:4
4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

MATTHEW 12:39
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

MARK 8:38
38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Since the commandments of God are spiritual it very clear that the commandments of God are for husband & wife, male & female.
ROMANS 7:14
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

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Since the commandment can't be applied to literal wives.
Who are the Spiritual Wives that must submit themselves to the Spiritual Husband?

 

[Dino246]

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Since the commandment can't be applied to literal wives.

Yes, it can, but your stubborn refusal to reject simple explanations blinds you.

 

[Godsgood]

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Since the commandment can't be applied to literal wives.
Who are the Spiritual Wives that must submit themselves to the Spiritual Husband?

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If we take this literally or physically.
EPHESIANS 5:22
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Who are the literal or physical wives who can submit themselves to their husbands?
By submitting themselves:
Wives should not make their own decision. All come from the husbands.
Wives can't act on their own, the instruction should come from the husbands.
In short: Wives or wife should be a slave of her husband.

Wives, who is willing to become a slaves of their husbands?
I don't think there is because everybody needs freedom in our physical life.

If this is not the literal wives because The Law is Spiritual:
ROMANS 7:14
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Then who are the Spiritual Wives in Ephesians 5:22?
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Which answer are we going to believe, from a Man (man own intellect) or from God (through his words as stated in John 1:1)?

 

[Dino246]

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If we take this literally or physically.
EPHESIANS 5:22
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Who are the literal or physical wives who can submit themselves to their husbands?
By submitting themselves:
Wives should not make their own decision. All come from the husbands.
Wives can't act on their own, the instruction should come from the husbands.
In short: Wives or wife should be a slave of her husband.

Wives, who is willing to become a slaves of their husbands?
I don't think there is because everybody needs freedom in our physical life.

If this is not the literal wives because The Law is Spiritual:
ROMANS 7:14
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Then who are the Spiritual Wives in Ephesians 5:22?
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Which answer are we going to believe, from a Man (man own intellect) or from God (through his words as stated in John 1:1)?

The above is utter hogwash. All you do is post ridiculous misinterpretations of Scripture. What gives with you?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Wronged and victimized... there you go again. Did your mama beat you instead of hugging you?

It’s just an observation you have the same pattern of engagement . You take offense , then begin the insults and claim ove somehow attacked or offended you .

this is why I responded politely like this which you somehow took as an attack

“ Yea I was just wondering why me enlarging part of a scripture , is somehow me yelling at you

i literally didn’t understand until I read the next message from the other brother explaining it

and yea I’m alright posting how and what I posted for a couple years now . If it’s offensive to you , I apologize and won’t interact with you. I’m alright either way honestly no offense taken or intended.”

and then began the immature insults per your pattern after you’ve claimed to have been wronged in some way . It’s just repetetive and obvious now to me , so I just made the observation. After you began tbe insults again lol which honestly is just comical to me and I’m not gonna engage in the petty stuff with you or anyone else

 

[Cameron143]

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If we take this literally or physically.
EPHESIANS 5:22
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Who are the literal or physical wives who can submit themselves to their husbands?
By submitting themselves:
Wives should not make their own decision. All come from the husbands.
Wives can't act on their own, the instruction should come from the husbands.
In short: Wives or wife should be a slave of her husband.

Wives, who is willing to become a slaves of their husbands?
I don't think there is because everybody needs freedom in our physical life.

If this is not the literal wives because The Law is Spiritual:
ROMANS 7:14
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Then who are the Spiritual Wives in Ephesians 5:22?
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Which answer are we going to believe, from a Man (man own intellect) or from God (through his words as stated in John 1:1)?

In your own way of thinking, why wouldn't the woman be slave to her spiritual husband?
You obviously don't understand submission if you believe it equates to slavery. You submit to a whole host of people on a daily basis. When you submit to a work requirement, are you a slave of your superior? When you submit to traffic laws, are you a slave of the police? When you submit to going through a checkout line at the grocery store, are you a slave of the cashier?
Submission isn't about the value of an individual, but authority. God is the ultimate authority. After Him, Christ. After Christ, man. And so forth. Is the Father greater in value than the Son. Of course not. Neither is a woman or child of less intrinsic value than a man. Each was made in the image of God. But the man has been given authority over his family. Police have been given authority over the population. And your boss, by virtue of his or her position, has authority over you.

 

[HeIsHere]

It’s just an observation you have the same pattern of engagement . You take offense , then begin the insults and claim ove somehow attacked or offended you .

this is why I responded politely like this which you somehow took as an attack

“ Yea I was just wondering why me enlarging part of a scripture , is somehow me yelling at you

i literally didn’t understand until I read the next message from the other brother explaining it

and yea I’m alright posting how and what I posted for a couple years now . If it’s offensive to you , I apologize and won’t interact with you. I’m alright either way honestly no offense taken or intended.”

and then began the immature insults per your pattern after you’ve claimed to have been wronged in some way . It’s just repetitive and obvious now to me , so I just made the observation. After you began the insults again lol which honestly is just comical to me and I’m not gonna engage in the petty stuff with you or anyone else

It was an absolutely horrible thing to say about being beaten. Full stop!!

I could say more but best I do not, your insight is correct.

I used to find it a challenge to ignore and sometimes still a challenge because of the flow of the discussion, however wow if you can be consistent with ignoring, it is very good thing to do.

Your day will be much more pleasant.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

It was an absolutely horrible thing to say about being beaten. Full stop!!

I could say more but best I do not, your insight is correct.

I used to find it a challenge to ignore and sometimes still a challenge because of the flow of the discussion, however wow if you can be consistent with ignoring, it is very good thing to do.

Your day will be much more pleasant.

I think it’s mostly immaturity and not really intentional. Like when a kid speaks from the moment emotionally gotta understand kids are kids

 

[Magenta]

Good lord brother I couldn’t have a beer lol been sober now for thirty three years also have diabetes haha so Pepsi would need to be sugar free

 

[Godsgood]

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If we take this literally or physically.
EPHESIANS 5:22
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Who are the literal or physical wives who can submit themselves to their husbands?
By submitting themselves:
Wives should not make their own decision. All come from the husbands.
Wives can't act on their own, the instruction should come from the husbands.
In short: Wives or wife should be a slave of her husband.

Wives, who is willing to become a slaves of their husbands?
I don't think there is because everybody needs freedom in our physical life.

If this is not the literal wives because The Law is Spiritual:
ROMANS 7:14
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Then who are the Spiritual Wives in Ephesians 5:22?
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Which answer are we going to believe, from a Man (man own intellect) or from God (through his words as stated in John 1:1)?

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Of course what we are going to believe is the revelation from God.
God could explain the meaning of spiritual wives through his WORDS alone.

Here is the Word of God.
In this verse, God is not looking after the gender of human.
Everybody has 1 gender only in the eyes of God.
GALATIANS 3:28-
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

In this following verse, God said about a couple who are married.
God is married to all.
JEREMIAH 3:14
14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

In this marriage, God stated who is the Spiritual Husband.
ISAIAH 54:5
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

If God is the Spiritual Husband then all people are the Spiritual Wives of God.

If the people are the spiritual wives.
Is it now appropriate that we submit ourselves to God as our Spiritual Husband?

Since we are talking about the salvation or the Word of God.
All our decisions are coming from God.
All our action on how to get saved must be from God instruction.

 

[Edify]

I looked again & again, & couldn't see the offense. But the hair trigger was quite obvious.
IF the "offense" were forgiven, no one would have noticed anything.

Back to the subject..... Since I'm not a wife, commandments to them are not for me. So no, not every commandment is for everybody.

I think this would be a good scripture for the moment:
Matt. 12:33“Either [ac]assume the tree to be good as well as its fruit good, or [ad]assume the tree to be bad as well as its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its fruit. 34You [ae]offspring of vipers, how can you, being evil, express any good things? For the mouth speaks from that which fills the heart. 35The good person brings out of his good treasure good things; and the evil person brings out of his evil treasure evil things. 36But I tell you that for every [af]careless word that people [ag]speak, they will give an account of it on the day of judgment. 37For [ah]by your words you will be justified, and [ai]by your words you will be condemned.”

I have been caught with this one more times than I'll admit to, so I know it can easily be done.

This IS a command for everyone in the church:
1 Corinthians 14:26
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

 

[Godsgood]

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Of course what we are going to believe is the revelation from God.
God could explain the meaning of spiritual wives through his WORDS alone.

Here is the Word of God.
In this verse, God is not looking after the gender of human.
Everybody has 1 gender only in the eyes of God.
GALATIANS 3:28-
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

In this following verse, God said about a couple who are married.
God is married to all.
JEREMIAH 3:14
14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

In this marriage, God stated who is the Spiritual Husband.
ISAIAH 54:5
5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

If God is the Spiritual Husband then all people are the Spiritual Wives of God.

If the people are the spiritual wives.
Is it now appropriate that we submit ourselves to God as our Spiritual Husband?

Since we are talking about the salvation or the Word of God.
All our decisions are coming from God.
All our action on how to get saved must be from God instruction.

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Since we are the spiritual wives of God no mater what our physical gender is.
Now we can be slaved of God.

 

[Godsgood]

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If the Law is Spiritual then in Ephesians 5:22-23 the Lord Jesus Christ is referring to Spiritual Wives & Husbands.
1 CORINTHIANS 3:6
“Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.”

1 CORINTHIANS 2:13
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

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By raising questions to God and humble ourselves, I'm certain that he will reveal the Truth with his answer.

 

[GWH]

If you are going to treat this passage as a "command", at least start where the passage starts:

21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

That's right. This command is for everybody, and the Gospel is for everybody. Heaven is for everybody that cooperates with GW, and hell is the just destiny for everybody who opposes God.

I guess that about covers it! :^)

 

[Dino246]

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Since we are the spiritual wives of God no mater what our physical gender is.
Now we can be slaved of God.

"Slaved of God"? Perhaps that was a typo of "slaves", but that's still quite wrong. We are servants, not slaves.

 

[Godsgood]

"Slaved of God"? Perhaps that was a typo of "slaves", but that's still quite wrong. We are servants, not slaves.

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My apology Sir.
I'm not very good in using English words. But I'm trying to do my best to share what God's given to me.
Thank you for the correction.

Yes, we are Servants of God. As Spiritual Wives or Servants of God we must submit ourselves or surrender ourselves to God as the Spiritual Husband.

Since we are treated equally by God, this is why all commandments are intended to all people and not just to certain groups or sector.

If we just let God explain the meaning oh his commandments he will clarify that the commandments is for all of us.

 

[Leastofall]

42 yrs ago my now wife and I had the biggest argument in the parking lot of the church where we were being counseled for marriage on this very verse (subject).
A few days went by with mixed feelings and bickering back and forth. Even to the point to call off the wedding.
On our next visit with the pastor we ment each other there and my bride to be was strangely calm as the subject was brought up again.
The pastor asked if we understood what it ment.
Turning to my wife she said with a little smile yes I do, it means if anything screws up in our marriage it's all his fault and I'm good with that.

But the best response to understanding came from him ....he said anything born with 2 heads is considered a freak.

 

[Godsgood]

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My apology Sir.
I'm not very good in using English words. But I'm trying to do my best to share what God's given to me.
Thank you for the correction.

Yes, we are Servants of God. As Spiritual Wives or Servants of God we must submit ourselves or surrender ourselves to God as the Spiritual Husband.

Since we are treated equally by God, this is why all commandments are intended to all people and not just to certain groups or sector.

If we just let God explain the meaning oh his commandments he will clarify that the commandments is for all of us.

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Perhaps you also notice that when we read the Holy Bible there is always a command from God, from Genesis to Revelation.
And if we will use our own understanding by taking it by letter or in literal meaning, commandments are for different gender (male or female), age (children and adult), status in life (poor and rich) etc.
But if we just ask for God mercy, he will explain by Divine Revelation then we will understand that they are intended to every person.

Therefore: No One is Exempted from All the Commandments of God, from Genesis to Revelation.

 

[Dino246]

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Perhaps you also notice that when we read the Holy Bible there is always a command from God, from Genesis to Revelation.
And if we will use our own understanding by taking it by letter or in literal meaning, commandments are for different gender (male or female), age (children and adult), status in life (poor and rich) etc.
But if we just ask for God mercy, he will explain by Divine Revelation then we will understand that they are intended to every person.

Therefore: No One is Exempted from All the Commandments of God, from Genesis to Revelation.

More hogwash.

The commandments given to men were intended for men, and Scripture gives no warrant to "spiritualize" them for women. Similarly, commandments given to women were intended for women, and there is no scriptural warrant to "spiritualize" them for men.

Men weren't ceremonially unclean for 33 days after giving birth to a boy (Leviticus 12:2). Women didn't need to wash before sundown after a seminal emission (Leviticus 15:16).

How you can read those texts and write the above is baffling. You're way past left field and have left the ball park completely.