Unable to Believe the “Foolish” Gospel

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Pilgrimshope

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Latest verse discovered re: God gives faith to believe:
Acts 3:16
NKJV ------- “Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness …”
LB ---------- “Faith in Jesus’ name — faith given us from God — has caused this perfect healing.”
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

did god simply not give them the ability to believe ?

“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

People aren’t lost because agod didn’t supply them with all they needed for salvation. But because they reject it in favor of thier own designs or another they accepted and trust in.

people have the ability to have faith but they often put thier faith in lies or faulty things Islam , many Islam is folks are faithful Islamic people they believe it’s true so they live like they believe it’s true they heard the word of Islam and accepted it in tbier heart .

others heard the argument against even the existance of God and they gave thier hesrt over to it accepting it as truth they even have faith but they’ve put it into scientific theories that existsnce was a cosmic accident created from some mysterious explosion and then evolution over billions of years lol mutations and grotesque coincidence from microscopic organisms to tadpoles to human bieng

I’ve had many discussions with atheists and evolutionists and they are fully conviced thier entire heart is conviced by things they cannot see or prove but they heard someone else with a degree state is factual. Sven assuming to know what happened a hundred billion years ago.

faith is an operation of humanity people operate after what they believe and learn and trust in and the word they hear and are convinced of.

It’s how any faith or religion or even a cult spreads and acchieves believers. Charles Manson convinced a group of young drug addicts experimenting with psychedelics tbat he was “Jesus and also Satan in one “ in the end they believed so much they killed for him and carved in thier foreheads in alliegance to him . What had happened , was that they put thier faith in the wrong belief system and person , they were deceived

Faith in God comes from the gospel he sent into the world tbat Jesus and the apostles preached promising life and forgiveness and peace . But not everyone believes it when they hear about Jesus dying for thiers sins or God sending his son to save the world he loves

but the reason people don’t believe isn’t that he doesn’t allow them or didn’t make them able to hear and believe him it’s that they reject what he’s saying in favor of other ideas to believe. it’s that Satan deceived them and they believe in the wrong things. God says one thing , Satan says another ….man has a choice who to believe and follow “ faith is a principle of man’s design it’s how we operate we can put it in the wrong things and ideas and people though but everyone is able to believe something they hear and learn
 
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That is what grace does. Grace enables where we are powerless to be what God wants us to be.
But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.”
Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 2 Corinthians 12:9​
The context has nothing to do with faith and belief.
This spiritual power is for living the Christian life, being an overcomer, evangelizing, etc.
 

Genez

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The context has nothing to do with faith and belief.
This spiritual power is for living the Christian life, being an overcomer, evangelizing, etc.
That sounds like well intentioned, mindless, energized, determination.
 
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The Best Election-Faith Verses

Acts 3:16
NKJV ------- “Yes, the FAITH which comes through Him …”
LB ---------- “FAITH in Jesus’ name — FAITH given to us from God …”


Acts 13:48
KJV ------------------- “… as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.”
NLT ------------------- “… all who were chosen for eternal life became believers.”

The ordaining and choosing comes BEFORE believing.

Acts 16:14
NKJV, NASB “… the Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul.”
NLT, LB ---- “… the Lord opened her heart, and she accepted what Paul was saying.”

For Lydia to accept what Paul was saying, it was necessary for God to open her heart.

2 Peter 1:1
NASB --------- “To those who have received a FAITH of the same kind as ours …”
NLT ----------- “This FAITH was given to you …”
LB ------------ “… the kind (of FAITH) that Jesus Christ our God and Savior gives to us.”

Faith is given by God and received by us.

Jude 3
KJV, NKJV, NASB “… the FAITH which was once for all delivered to the saints.”
NLT -------------- “… the FAITH that God has entrusted once for all time to His holy people.”
LB --------------- “… the truth which God gave, once for all, to His people …”

Faith is entrusted to certain people and given to them.

Joe HEARS the Gospel >>> God gives the FAITH required >>> Joe BELIEVES the Gospel

All of the NT verses can be shown to agree with electon,
for example … “All that the Father gives to Me will come to Me …
of all He (Father God) has given to Me I should lose nothing …
No one can (is able to) come to Me unless the Father who sent Me
draws (Greek: compels, draws) him … no one can (is able to) come to Me
unless it has been granted to him by My Father.” (John 6:37, 44, 65)


Is fallen man so drastically fallen that he is NOT able to come to Jesus?
Really? … is the giving of FAITH not enough? … Really?
Must fallen man be compelled (forced even) to believe in Jesus?

Some teach incorrectly that man just chooses to believe … and he/she is saved forever.
This is just another popular teaching that tickles the ears!