Are there really true atheists?

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Lynx

Lynx

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Evolution, this I know
Charles Darwin told me so
Accidentally alive
If you're weak, you won't survive

Tooth and claw, kids, tooth and claw.
 
JohnDB

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MaryM said:
I am reading a book about Billy Graham, the great evangelist.
He said he had never met anyone who he thought was a real atheist.
That to me is an interesting point and I wonder if he was right?
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There are no atheists in a foxhole.

Just saying.
 
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MaryM said:
I am reading a book about Billy Graham, the great evangelist.
He said he had never met anyone who he thought was a real atheist.
That to me is an interesting point and I wonder if he was right?
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You'll know if you ever really met one. I know one I worked with who didn't talk much about it but after knowing him for about ten years I ask him how he could do everything from steal to cheat on his wives he married and divorced over the years with no remorse. He laughed and told me real quick he didn't believe in God or the Devil or nothing. In conversations we had about it which were mostly me trying to tell him about Christianity he explained to me that the only one who could catch him cheating or stealing was his wife or girlfriend or whoever he decided to steal from. To him his wife was who washed his clothes and cooked until she found out he was cheating and hiding money from his family then he would split up and look for another one. One of his children passed away and he didn't take off work and told us we all were just like animals that didn't exist after death and it was crazy to actually love anyone because of it. What he said about love was the eyeopener that convinced me he really was an atheist because he was living it every day. Take my advice if you meet someone who says their an atheist watch your wallet your family and everything in their path because everything to them is for the taking.
 
Lynx

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Squigglylines said:
You'll know if you ever really met one. I know one I worked with who didn't talk much about it but after knowing him for about ten years I ask him how he could do everything from steal to cheat on his wives he married and divorced over the years with no remorse. He laughed and told me real quick he didn't believe in God or the Devil or nothing. In conversations we had about it which were mostly me trying to tell him about Christianity he explained to me that the only one who could catch him cheating or stealing was his wife or girlfriend or whoever he decided to steal from. To him his wife was who washed his clothes and cooked until she found out he was cheating and hiding money from his family then he would split up and look for another one. One of his children passed away and he didn't take off work and told us we all were just like animals that didn't exist after death and it was crazy to actually love anyone because of it. What he said about love was the eyeopener that convinced me he really was an atheist because he was living it every day. Take my advice if you meet someone who says their an atheist watch your wallet your family and everything in their path because everything to them is for the taking.
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That's what scares me.

Have you ever considered that Adolf Hitler was just a logical atheist with some power? He was horribly wrong, in a way that gives new meaning to the phrase horribly wrong, but if you believe evolution is real then he was only taking his beliefs to their logical conclusion. Why would you want to protect the weak? That is bad for the species.

Those who claim to be atheists, but want everybody to love everybody and the whole world to be nice and soft, those are the really conflicted people. What they want goes directly against what they believe.
 
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Lynx said:
That's what scares me.

Have you ever considered that Adolf Hitler was just a logical atheist with some power? He was horribly wrong, in a way that gives new meaning to the phrase horribly wrong, but if you believe evolution is real then he was only taking his beliefs to their logical conclusion. Why would you want to protect the weak? That is bad for the species.

Those who claim to be atheists, but want everybody to love everybody and the whole world to be nice and soft, those are the really conflicted people. What they want goes directly against what they believe.
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When I realized this guy was really and truly an atheist other people who knew him were trying to tell me he was but he was going to Church with his then wife because her family had money. I couldn't believe he really was because he would try his best to fit right in with everyone's idea of who he was suppose to be. I don't work with him anymore but absolutely everything he said and did was a plan to obtain something from someone. So yes I could envision Hitler or anyone else if their a true atheist hiding in plain sight. Like John said about it in his letters about someone saying they have or love God but they don't love others nailed way better than I could explain it. That's what I was trying to point out about about the love part that made me actually realize he was a true atheist. https://www.bible.com/bible/compare/1JN.4.20
 
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