Yes, and you say everyone hears the message sent out to all people for salvation whereas Scripture says His sheep hear. Is everyone His sheep? I have asked this before. Did you answer? You have also tried to make the case that people who have not heard are not unbelievers, or cannot be defined as unbelievers. Well, if they are not, who is??? You say it is just people who have heard and rejected. I think there is more to it than that. I can hear someone speak Chinese but it is as good as foolishness to me without an interpreter, and I am completely incapable of believing what they say because I do not hear what they say with comprehension as to what is being spoken. If everyone heard as you say and everyone heard with comprehension as I say must be encompassed in the proper meaning of hearing and everyone who hears is His sheep then everyone would be saved... and everyone does not get saved as far as I know, and I don't think that is what you believe either. The Bible plainly states that the gospel being preached is foolishness to those who are perishing. They will not somehow "choose" to believe it in that state, same as I cannot choose to believe what anyone says in Chinese because I cannot comprehend it. I cannot will myself into understanding it either! I cannot simply wish it to be true that I could understand Chinese and then accept or reject what was said any more than a person with uncircumcised ears can hear the wisdom inherent in the gospel message being preached or have it become comprehensible aside from having God expressly make it clear to them, same as it is only by the Holy Spirit of God that one can confess Christ as Lord. I have asked others what they mean when they say the same thing as you, but they do not respond. Also I am not "you guys." I don't read every post either. I have some on ignore, those who lie often and/or with great glee. It's disgusting that it is done with such ease and frequency.
Yes, God has revealed Himself to me. How odd that any would find it appropriate to mock such when it is a Biblical fact that God promised to do such a thing (I am not saying you do this). Lots of people chirp about how it is a relationship not religion, but what does that really mean? If it is a relationship it is personal. God is a personal God. Jesus is a person. None of my personal relationships are exactly the same as anyone else's, nor are any two of mine identical. Why would my personal relationship with God be exactly the same for me as someone else's personal relationship with God when we have different needs and abilities and purposes in God's plan? I am honestly coming to the opinion that people who act that way actually have never met the Risen Lord. That is what their mocking and scoffing behaviour tells me.
Yes, God has revealed Himself to me. How odd that any would find it appropriate to mock such when it is a Biblical fact that God promised to do such a thing (I am not saying you do this). Lots of people chirp about how it is a relationship not religion, but what does that really mean? If it is a relationship it is personal. God is a personal God. Jesus is a person. None of my personal relationships are exactly the same as anyone else's, nor are any two of mine identical. Why would my personal relationship with God be exactly the same for me as someone else's personal relationship with God when we have different needs and abilities and purposes in God's plan? I am honestly coming to the opinion that people who act that way actually have never met the Risen Lord. That is what their mocking and scoffing behaviour tells me.
