Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?

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Jun 30, 2015
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It is the western modern day lens at play and minimal understanding of other cultures.
Your comment is stupid, ignorant, and insulting all at once. You haven't a freaking clue what I know about other cultures. You don't even know what culture I hold!

I am well aware that you have a bee in your bonnet about me. You can either address me directly or keep your jackdonkey comments about me to yourself.
 
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Really? You think two people that marry at the courthouse but never consummate the marriage, ie, become one flesh, are married in God's eyes? Marriage in God's eyes is sexual union. What other reason was there for marriage in Jesus' time than procreation?
Protection, cooperation, companionship, mutual support, and representing Christ and His Church... and that's just a quick list.
 
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How did they know Elizabeth was barren? Because they had been having sex since their honeymoon and no fruit. Marriage is synonymous with sex was the point. Sorry it flew over your head
Hey, my head has a functioning brain in it which understands what the word "procreate" means. Yours? Apparently not.
 
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I get worked up at people who claim to be quoting Scripture while blatantly misquoting and misrepresenting it. Deal with it.
Hey, don't chase him away just yet. I can't wait for him to elaborate from scripture on Zacharias' and Elisabeth's torrid honeymoon. I also can't wait for him to write his own dictionary in which "no fruit" and "procreation" are synonymous. Every time he is backed into a corner, he shifts the goal posts. He should get a job working for the NFL.
 
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Your comment is stupid, ignorant, and insulting all at once. You haven't a freaking clue what I know about other cultures. You don't even know what culture I hold!

I am well aware that you have a bee in your bonnet about me. You can either address me directly or keep your jackdonkey comments about me to yourself.
Since when is that a proper way to speak to a woman?
 
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Since when is that a proper way to speak to a woman?
Her side comments about me were inappropriate. If a man did that, I’d call him on it directly and bluntly. Women don’t get a pass for inappropriate behaviour. That kind of sexism is just as destructive as favouring men over women.
 
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Hey, don't chase him away just yet. I can't wait for him to elaborate from scripture on Zacharias' and Elisabeth's torrid honeymoon. I also can't wait for him to write his own dictionary in which "no fruit" and "procreation" are synonymous. Every time he is backed into a corner, he shifts the goal posts. He should get a job working for the NFL.
What kind of brain do you have that thinks like this? I assure you it's not the mind of Christ.

That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought. Isaiah 29:21
 
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What kind of brain do you have that thinks like this? I assure you it's not the mind of Christ.

That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought. Isaiah 29:21
Lol. You simply cannot admit when you are wrong, can you?

Words have meanings, so learn what they mean before proudly and ignorantly shooting your mouth off.
 
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Lol. You simply cannot admit when you are wrong, can you?
I'm still waiting for you to show me in what way I'm wrong. All I see is blanket accusations, ridicule, evasion, misrepresentation, finding offense with at a word with no attempt to discern my meaning, etc. Pick one point and let's go, I'm easy to work with. I don't blow my cork like some around here do.
 
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All I see is blanket accusations, ridicule, evasion, misrepresentation, finding offense with at a word with no attempt to discern my meaning, etc.
Oh, so you've been reading your own posts?

Blanket accusations? Yeah, that sounds just like you. You know, anybody who believes that a certain subset of angels had sexual relations with women as the Bible implies is a believer in "pagan mythology, ie, gods having sex with women." Does that ring a bell?

Ridicule? You just asserted that I, an extremely devout, born-again Christian upon whose heart and mind God's word is written, do not have the mind of Christ. No ridicule there, right?

Evasion? Good thing that I was lying in bed when I read that or else I probably would have fallen over backwards and hit my head against the wall. I have asked you MULTIPLE Bible-based questions on this thread alone, and you have repeatedly evaded them.

Misrepresentation? You mean like saying that "marriage" and "procreation" are "synonymous?" Yeah, that would be you, again.

Finding offense with a word? Lol. Go and read it IN CONTEXT. Some of us have read our Bibles, and we are therefore not moved by your gross misinterpretations of scripture. Isaiah was talking about how wicked people made prophets out to be offenders because of the word of the Lord which they had faithfully spoken to others. In other words, it had absolutely nothing to do with calling out somebody who is misusing words contrary to their actual meanings.

Anyhow, you are beginning to bore me.
 
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Do you have evidence that's what Jesus meant or are you just going to resort to circular reasoning and assumption? Marriage being synonymous with procreation is a reasonable conclusion.
Every angel mentioned in Scripture is male. You prove that there are female angels.
 
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Because you say so...

Jesus said the resurrected are as the angels. Paul said there is neither male nor female in Christ. So if the resurrected have no sex, then it can be reasonably inferred that angels are asexual as we will be.
Have you given a biblical answer for king Og? 15 foot bed? We were as grasshoppers in their sight. Come on.
 
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Every angel mentioned in Scripture is male. You prove that there are female angels.
They look like men, but how do you know they're not eunuchs or asexual? You don't of course. You just assume because the bible calls them men, which they are not, that they have wieners.
 

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How did they know Elizabeth was barren? Because they had been having sex since their honeymoon and no fruit. Marriage is synonymous with sex was the point. Sorry it flew over your head

If I am reading your posts correctly, perhaps rather than the word synonymous ancient cultures married in the expectation that there would be children.
So yes marriage and procreation were tied together probably up until fairly recently.
It really is not complicated.
 

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It's really not. Blowing my mind that it's such an issue

Not sure why this topic always gets so heated, I have also read the position that two becoming one flesh is children, but I would agree sex and procreation (marriage) were not regarded how it is viewed in our modern day culture where the two are separated out.

Even if one goes back a few generations people got married to start a family, not like now a days where people marry and decide they do not want children.