Slain in the spirit?

[GRACE_ambassador]

Agree, nor should experience be used to interpret scripture.

Correct, rule # 7 Bible study Rules!:

The Best "Interpretive" Commentary On The Bible Is: The BIBLE Itself!

NEVER ever interpret The Many Plain Scriptures by the "few" difficult verses, But,
ALWAYS Always Interpret the few Obscure/Difficult/Dubious verses By ALL Of The
MANY Plain and Clear Passages Of God’s Pure And Holy Word!
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"For we walk By faith, not by sight" (2 Corinthians 5:7 AV)​

Amen.

 

[HeIsHere]

Correct, rule # 7 Bible study Rules!:

The Best "Interpretive" Commentary On The Bible Is: The BIBLE Itself!

NEVER ever interpret The Many Plain Scriptures by the "few" difficult verses, But,
ALWAYS Always Interpret the few Obscure/Difficult/Dubious verses By ALL Of The
MANY Plain and Clear Passages Of God’s Pure And Holy Word!
+

"For we walk By faith, not by sight" (2 Corinthians 5:7 AV)​

Amen.

Amen and Amen.

 

[Blain]

I would just like this question answered let us say it was not from God and was from the devil where in scripture does satan have the ability to posess or knocl down a believer in Christ? as far as I know there isn't so who is to say it was not from God and if it was from satan on what basis does one make that claim if there is no recorded scripture of it?

 

[ResidentAlien]

I would just like this question answered let us say it was not from God and was from the devil where in scripture does satan have the ability to posess or knocl down a believer in Christ?

Exactly.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Exactly.

REALLY think about what RA just wrote.


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[wolfwint]

After all not only was I filled with life but my foot was healed soon after are you saying the devil can give life and wanted my broken foot to be healed?

You now who is called the angel of light?What the devil is useing for to deceive the children of God?

 

[wolfwint]

Explain why is it not from God?

Where in the bible you find that people fell backwards? I know this only from pentecostal and charismatic teachings and expieriences. BTW that was the reason in 1906 why many german denominations were against the new pentecostal teachings.
But today we see in germany that the most denominations and missions accept pentecostal and charismatic teachings. A good sign?
I would say a sign of endtime. And no good One.

 

[Blain]

You now who is called the angel of light?What the devil is useing for to deceive the children of God?

No I mean en actual explanation not a generic one that can be applied to any kind of situation what about what I described in my op makes you think it isn't from God

 

[Blain]

Where in the bible you find that people fell backwards? I know this only from pentecostal and charismatic teachings and expieriences. BTW that was the reason in 1906 why many german denominations were against the new pentecostal teachings.
But today we see in germany that the most denominations and missions accept pentecostal and charismatic teachings. A good sign?
I would say a sign of endtime. And no good One.

There are several times in the bible where God's presence or power made people fall down and I have never seen in the bible that happening from the devil and this event did happen so if it isn't in scripture that people fall backwards the same can be said of the devil so either way in your stance it isn't in scripture period but regardless it happened so if it isn't in scripture then how do you explain it?

you say it was not from God but it also wasn't from the decil was it or else there would be documentation of it in the bible so your argument has no basis except for your distain of charismatic or pentecostal teachings which I am neither and never was taught those teachings either so on what basis do make your stance?

 

[Blain]

in the bible there is laying of hands that happened to me in the bible people fall in the presence of God that happened to me to but these things happening from the devil? nope not even once in the bible so it seems to me there is more evidence going for it being from God than from the devil in fact what evidence is there that it was from the devil at all?

 

[studentoftheword]

Tell me this where in scripture can the devil posess or knock down a believer in Christ?

Here is your proof-----they made a movie from this ---The Exorcism of Emily Rose---you should check it out ------

better check out ----this is the true story of this girl ----the priest was charged in this case and now lives in exile

Anneliese Michel----her whole family were Christians and she became possessed by demons and they killed her
Lucifer. Cain. Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus.

Bishop Josef Stangl, who approved the exorcism, in a May 1959 photo

Anneliese Michel during one of her exorcisms.

and I leave you with this to read

https://biblehub.com/2_timothy/2-26.htm

Historically, this reflects the transformative power of repentance and the Holy Spirit's work in illuminating truth to those who have been deceived. It is a call to spiritual awareness and discernment, urging believers to recognize the truth of the Gospel and reject false teachings.

escape the snare of the devil
The "snare of the devil" refers to the traps or deceptions laid by Satan to entangle believers in sin or false doctrine. The Greek word "pagis" for "snare" suggests a trap or a noose, indicating the cunning and subtle nature of these spiritual dangers. In a historical context, this reflects the early church's struggles against heresies and the need for vigilance. Scripturally, it echoes Ephesians 6:11, where believers are urged to put on the full armor of God to stand against the devil's schemes. It is a reminder of the spiritual warfare that Christians face and the need for constant reliance on God's truth and strength.

who has taken them captive
The phrase "taken them captive" comes from the Greek "zogreo," meaning to capture alive. This term is used to describe the devil's ability to ensnare individuals, leading them away from God's truth. Historically, it reflects the pervasive influence of false teachings and the cultural pressures faced by early Christians. Theologically, it underscores the reality of spiritual bondage and the need for deliverance through Christ. It is a call to recognize the spiritual captivity that sin and deception bring and the liberation found in Jesus.

to do his will
The phrase "to do his will" highlights the ultimate aim of the devil's captivity, which is to align individuals with his purposes rather than God's. The Greek word "thelema" for "will" indicates a deliberate intention or desire. This reflects the spiritual battle for allegiance and the importance of aligning one's life with God's will as revealed in Scripture. Historically, it underscores the early church's challenge to remain faithful amidst competing ideologies. It serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of discernment and obedience to God's Word, encouraging believers to seek His will above all else.

 

[wolfwint]

in the bible there is laying of hands that happened to me in the bible people fall in the presence of God that happened to me to but these things happening from the devil? nope not even once in the bible so it seems to me there is more evidence going for it being from God than from the devil in fact what evidence is there that it was from the devil at all?

Believe what you want. In bible people falling on their face as sign of fear and awe, but not backwards. As is it is and was usual in charismatic circles.
Btw per Definition it is charismatic teaching, even it is not a charismatic calling Service. But if they use their practice. Slain in the spirit is a charismatic practice. Which you can find also in ocultism and in the Hindu religion.

 

[Blain]

Here is your proof-----they made a movie from this ---The Exorcism of Emily Rose---you should check it out ------

better check out ----this is the true story of this girl ----the priest was charged in this case and now lives in exile

Anneliese Michel----her whole family were Christians and she became possessed by demons and they killed her
Lucifer. Cain. Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus.

Bishop Josef Stangl, who approved the exorcism, in a May 1959 photo

Anneliese Michel during one of her exorcisms.

and I leave you with this to read

https://biblehub.com/2_timothy/2-26.htm

Historically, this reflects the transformative power of repentance and the Holy Spirit's work in illuminating truth to those who have been deceived. It is a call to spiritual awareness and discernment, urging believers to recognize the truth of the Gospel and reject false teachings.

escape the snare of the devil
The "snare of the devil" refers to the traps or deceptions laid by Satan to entangle believers in sin or false doctrine. The Greek word "pagis" for "snare" suggests a trap or a noose, indicating the cunning and subtle nature of these spiritual dangers. In a historical context, this reflects the early church's struggles against heresies and the need for vigilance. Scripturally, it echoes Ephesians 6:11, where believers are urged to put on the full armor of God to stand against the devil's schemes. It is a reminder of the spiritual warfare that Christians face and the need for constant reliance on God's truth and strength.

who has taken them captive
The phrase "taken them captive" comes from the Greek "zogreo," meaning to capture alive. This term is used to describe the devil's ability to ensnare individuals, leading them away from God's truth. Historically, it reflects the pervasive influence of false teachings and the cultural pressures faced by early Christians. Theologically, it underscores the reality of spiritual bondage and the need for deliverance through Christ. It is a call to recognize the spiritual captivity that sin and deception bring and the liberation found in Jesus.

to do his will
The phrase "to do his will" highlights the ultimate aim of the devil's captivity, which is to align individuals with his purposes rather than God's. The Greek word "thelema" for "will" indicates a deliberate intention or desire. This reflects the spiritual battle for allegiance and the importance of aligning one's life with God's will as revealed in Scripture. Historically, it underscores the early church's challenge to remain faithful amidst competing ideologies. It serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of discernment and obedience to God's Word, encouraging believers to seek His will above all else.

I know of the exorcism but that is not proof not to mention it is based on a true story but not from the bible and all the scriptures you presented are either for none believers or it is speaking of spiritual warfare and talks about the traps of the devil yes but we all deal with his traps and temptations

Your picking at straws here if you can show me scripture where it specifically says how a believer in Christ can be posessed by the devil or knocked down and not a story of a girl who by the way was never really posessed but very talented at throwing her voice and acting which if you do your research you learn that was the case then maybe I will consider your point but so far your not providing what I asked your trying to make things say what we both know they aren't

Again where in scripture not a story of a little girl but scripture does satan have that power?

 

[Magenta]

There is a much-needed caveat on that statement:

Experience should not be the only or primary tool we use to interpret Scripture.

We should, however, consider our experience when interpreting Scripture. A "text-only" interpretation can be quite
wacky, whereas an interpretation based on all available evidence including experience is more likely to be sound.

Don't forget to take into consideration that some mock and scoff the idea of experiencing God in any personal way.

Of course knowing God personally cannot be done any other way, but... still! There are those too...

 

[Blain]

Believe what you want. In bible people falling on their face as sign of fear and awe, but not backwards. As is it is and was usual in charismatic circles.
Btw per Definition it is charismatic teaching, even it is not a charismatic calling Service. But if they use their practice. Slain in the spirit is a charismatic practice. Which you can find also in ocultism and in the Hindu religion.

And what about the laying of hands? how do you explain that away? true enough every time someone fell it was because of the power of God which is what happened to me but laying hands was also in scripture however the devil making people fall is not so how do you explain that?

 

[lrs68]

I would just like this question answered let us say it was not from God and was from the devil where in scripture does satan have the ability to posess or knocl down a believer in Christ? as far as I know there isn't so who is to say it was not from God and if it was from satan on what basis does one make that claim if there is no recorded scripture of it?

We know Satan cannot do anything to believers without first asking God's permission (hence Job, wanting to sift Peter, etc).

 

[studentoftheword]

Again where in scripture not a story of a little girl but scripture does satan have that power?

Job was knocked to his knees and he was down and out and it was Satan who had God's permission to do so -----Satan has God's permission to keep you from God and His word and deceiving people and you were deceived ----

 

[Blain]

We know Satan cannot do anything to believers without first asking God's permission (hence Job, wanting to sift Peter, etc).

Exactly but because people have it in their minds that what I experienced was from the devil they will not listen and so far no one has been able to really answer my question

 

[Blain]

Job was knocked to his knees and he was down and out and it was Satan who had God's permission to do so -----Satan has God's permission to keep you from God and His word and deceiving people and you were deceived ----

your kidding right? he did that after hearing how he lost his family and posesssions arose shed his clothes and fell down in worship saying the Lord giveth and takres away

 

[Magenta]

your kidding right? he did that after hearing how he lost his family and possessions arose
shed his clothes and fell down in worship saying the Lord giveth and takes away

Job 1:21b; 13:15a The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord. Though He slay me, yet I will trust Him.