1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Reign
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Zech 14:4) And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
What a kidder.
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The problem with your thinking is that it must assume we all will be here when that kingdom comes.or that any of us are even looking for it.
I am looking for eternity. Not some earthly reign. It has nothing to do with me. (Unless of course I somehow am here on Earth when it comes about) so why would I look for it?
But to use this to say it does not exist is like saying WW2 should have never happened because Scripture did not say it would. Your looking for something that does not need to be there for it to be true.
Yup, like I said, no mention of any return from heaven to Earth.
(conversely we know that Jesus feet DID stand on the mount in actual history)
Is ALL of Zech 14 about the earthly millenial kingdom?
Are there battles going on and disease and sinning and sacrifices happening is there?
Dunno what your talking about. I see a mention of a GATHERING for battle but God wipes out the wicked before it starts.
So Christians are NOT gonna be reigning with Jesus in the millenium?
Is that what your saying?
So Rev 20 is about what exactly?
It is about the trib and the following millennial kingdom.
In the trib, yes (except for sacrifices). But after armageddon, in the millennial kingdom, no battles or disease.
What you refer to is at the end of the millennial kingdom, after satan is loosed. It will be a quick war.
Rev 20:9) ...and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them
But at the end of the trib, before the millennial kingdom, there will be the battle of Armageddon.
Rev 19:11-19
Rev 14:14-20 - blood as deep as horses' bridles. Fun times.
Is the trib before or after Jesus comes from heaven and stands on the mount?
So Zech 14 is not in continuous chronalogical order?
Revelation is a book full of metaphors.
Theres no war there.
Thats the talmudic hollywood movie your watchin'.
Before.
As in several other places of the bible, no.
You cannot "metaphor away" everything. There will be a war.
Shroon2,
You do not have to agree or identify with my assessment, but Strangelove typifies the OP and is the type of person the author is illustrating. It is incredible how Strangelove, and some others, mirror the entire content of the article, hook, line and sinker, and they do not care one iota for what this author had to say or any of the truth that was conveyed from a historical viewpoint. That is being fraudulent. They have their own premise, their own history, their on authors, their own interpretation, their own conclusions and their own understanding and believe it is all in the scriptures, every last jot and tittle. That is strange and that is 'Strangedoctrine', my new nic for this man that has deceived himself into believing a lie and won't come out of it unless God can really shake him up out of his stupor.
You do not have to agree or identify with my assessment, but Strangelove typifies the OP and is the type of person the author is illustrating. It is incredible how Strangelove, and some others, mirror the entire content of the article, hook, line and sinker, and they do not care one iota for what this author had to say or any of the truth that was conveyed from a historical viewpoint. That is being fraudulent. They have their own premise, their own history, their on authors, their own interpretation, their own conclusions and their own understanding and believe it is all in the scriptures, every last jot and tittle. That is strange and that is 'Strangedoctrine', my new nic for this man that has deceived himself into believing a lie and won't come out of it unless God can really shake him up out of his stupor.
Yes. Strangelove, zone, abiding, heck, most everyone on this forum is convinced they have the truth. I am as well. But some have closed their minds to even consider the -possibility- that they -could- be wrong. And they rant, rave, and ridicule and belittle people who don't agree with them, sometimes going as far as to tell them they worship a different God. I do listen to them, somewhat, and some of the things they say do make me think. But so far, nothing has persuaded me to change what I believe is taught in the bible: there will be a millennial kingdom here on earth, and there will be a pretrib rapture.
(Zechariah 14:17) And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
According to you....is the Lord on earth and reigning in this verse?
So, there are people rejecting the Lord while he's reigning, sinners, wicked people running around yes?
Sorry for the delay... I'm painting the deck railing.
There will be three groups of people in the millennial kingdom. Christians (in their new spiritual bodies), OT believers (resurrected and in their new bodies) and people who made it through the trib. They will still have mortal bodies, and will procreate, and die (they will be judged at the white throne judgement). We will be reigning with Christ, as will I believe the OT believers. I think (but am not certain) the only ones who will have to show up at Jerusalem annually will be the mortals.
Christ will be ruling firmly (with a rod of iron). There will be perfect living conditions, plenty of food, safety, no disease. Isaiah 65:17-25.
I'm looking forward to it!
I believe what it says. If people do not come to Jerusalem, no rain for them.
There will be three groups of people in the millennial kingdom. Christians (in their new spiritual bodies), OT believers (resurrected and in their new bodies) and people who made it through the trib. They will still have mortal bodies, and will procreate, and die (they will be judged at the white throne judgement). We will be reigning with Christ, as will I believe the OT believers. I think (but am not certain) the only ones who will have to show up at Jerusalem annually will be the mortals.
Christ will be ruling firmly (with a rod of iron). There will be perfect living conditions, plenty of food, safety, no disease. Isaiah 65:17-25.
I'm looking forward to it!
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You should be careful with the name dropping...since you dont know me or what i believe.
I dont rant rave or ridicule, nor is my mind closed.
According to you we are in it right now, so I would have to say yes and lots of it, just look around and see for yourself. The church is on the earth and we are body, flesh and bones with no resurrected bodies yet. So you can't spiritualize that away.