The lying spirit of the Pre-trib Rapture
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I'm going to try to write every wrong I can find. I'm going to shine my little light in every corner in every nook and cranny of the darkness. I'm not going to allow false prophets and false teachers to teach the children of God Any longer . I am not going to be complicit anymore in allowing false doctrine to thrive. I'm going to use the sword of the spirit which the Lord as gave us, to cut open the darkness and let the light of his word in. and if that means cutting you so be it .
I'm going to try to write every wrong I can find. I'm going to shine my little light in every corner in every nook and cranny of the darkness. I'm not going to allow false prophets and false teachers to teach the children of God Any longer . I am not going to be complicit anymore in allowing false doctrine to thrive. I'm going to use the sword of the spirit which the Lord as gave us, to cut open the darkness and let the light of his word in. and if that means cutting you so be it .
You are blind and as deaf as a bat the Lord has blinded your eyes and blocked your ears and yes he loves you
It is not your place to go on a crusade of self righteous judgement the only false teacher I see here is you you are rude to everyone and call names you make accusations of people you say I am blind and deaf yet do you not see the fruits of which you show? the accuser the mocker the name caller all of this are the fruits of the devil not of God the fruits of the spirit are what now? love peace self control if you really think your serving God then it is astonishing how deluded you are and I am not going to sit by and let you attack people you need to check yourself friend because your on a slippery slope here again look at the fruits and don't forget that the enemy and God are both active in this forum you are serving one or the other
Your seving the wrong one and you don't even see it that is why your crusade is going to fail
This must be a very special thread, because we now have TWO, one actually here who
states that "we diligent Bible students [ who disagree with him ]" judges us as being
under "God's Strong Delusion" [ before the "man of sin is revealed"?
(2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 AV) ], and:
The other was recommended by a precious friend, to a website that has this egotistical information concerning his $40 Christian Mirage book:
Wait! God Graciously Saved me and Tells me I can "know Him And His Purpose" for me
from His Own Word Of Truth, without "being under Strong Delusion," then:
Why in the world would I even want to interact with either one of these folks???
So, I am out, I'll just keep prayerfully and Carefully Handling The Word Of Life! Until:
God's Great GRACE Departure!
Amen.
states that "we diligent Bible students [ who disagree with him ]" judges us as being
under "God's Strong Delusion" [ before the "man of sin is revealed"?
(2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 AV) ], and:
The other was recommended by a precious friend, to a website that has this egotistical information concerning his $40 Christian Mirage book:
Wait! God Graciously Saved me and Tells me I can "know Him And His Purpose" for me
from His Own Word Of Truth, without "being under Strong Delusion," then:
Why in the world would I even want to interact with either one of these folks???
So, I am out, I'll just keep prayerfully and Carefully Handling The Word Of Life! Until:
God's Great GRACE Departure!
Amen.
@BOY - Please listen to me. I understand your frustration at people believing false teaching, but the way you're going about it is wrong and you COULD get banned.
Galatians 6:1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.
So this is how we should correct what is wrong. If they don't heed you, you leave their consequences to God.
Matthew 13:24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”
The Bible doesn't tell us to take matters into our own hands - you give all these people and things to God and let Him deal with them Himself. In this parable, it was God who had them separated by his angels and had them burn up the weeds. No us.
I mean think about it - it will be bad enough for them because they won't be ready for the great tribulation - there's plenty of punishment already in that. Study all the prophets of old - they didn't do anything like what you're doing right now. Just pray for those who don't believe what God says. That is all you can do - but leave the consequences to God. It's for God to do, not you.
No one really needs this book either. God longs for us to know Him Himself without an extra layer of someone's perceived ideas about Him. The only things needed to understand God, is God Himself (the Father, the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit) and the Bible.
Hi you started this based on a lie "The lying spirit of the pre-tribulation ". You make this statement.. its not something we never heard before. People as in Christians do the same thing for Mid Trib and Post Trib.
Later you said "God sent them strong delusion". Did you read the chapter? You can't take out verse then try to apply them to your personal believe.
" Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie"
Who do you think Paul is talking about here? The way you go about this is the red flag. Its not the way the sweet sweet holy Spirit talks, acts. I will say "Pre-Trib" man does it get attacked made fun of. I like Dr Mickael Brown. He is a scholar knows Hebrew/Greek is Jewish and use to be Pre trib but is not Post trib. I disagree but that man will never say pre tirb is a lie. Do you know why you can't say that? No you don't. Red flags.. you have no problem offending other believers .. aka Gods Children.
We are not promised tomorrow. So I only have this moment and for me.. me I choose to live for Him to think about Hiim watch how I am living for Him and keeping my eyes open looking up watching. For it will aways be now when He comes and I will not miss Him.
So treat these people here who belong to the only true GOD like you Christ treats you. For they here deserve it
bless you.
Later you said "God sent them strong delusion". Did you read the chapter? You can't take out verse then try to apply them to your personal believe.
" Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie"
Who do you think Paul is talking about here? The way you go about this is the red flag. Its not the way the sweet sweet holy Spirit talks, acts. I will say "Pre-Trib" man does it get attacked made fun of. I like Dr Mickael Brown. He is a scholar knows Hebrew/Greek is Jewish and use to be Pre trib but is not Post trib. I disagree but that man will never say pre tirb is a lie. Do you know why you can't say that? No you don't. Red flags.. you have no problem offending other believers .. aka Gods Children.
We are not promised tomorrow. So I only have this moment and for me.. me I choose to live for Him to think about Hiim watch how I am living for Him and keeping my eyes open looking up watching. For it will aways be now when He comes and I will not miss Him.
So treat these people here who belong to the only true GOD like you Christ treats you. For they here deserve it
bless you.
Yes I'm sure. but you can keep pressing the report button if you like. it reminds me of the children of Israel murmuring and complaining they had to walk around the desert for another 40 years for their murmuring and complaining.
Well he got banned....... so much for God blinding us he might be back
Show me the "be ready" and "watch" verses in context with your no departure doctrine.@BOY - Please listen to me. I understand your frustration at people believing false teaching, but the way you're going about it is wrong and you COULD get banned.
Galatians 6:1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.
So this is how we should correct what is wrong. If they don't heed you, you leave their consequences to God.
Matthew 13:24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”
The Bible doesn't tell us to take matters into our own hands - you give all these people and things to God and let Him deal with them Himself. In this parable, it was God who had them separated by his angels and had them burn up the weeds. No us.
I mean think about it - it will be bad enough for them because they won't be ready for the great tribulation - there's plenty of punishment already in that. Study all the prophets of old - they didn't do anything like what you're doing right now. Just pray for those who don't believe what God says. That is all you can do - but leave the consequences to God. It's for God to do, not you.
Lol
You would need them chopped out
Watchfulness
Luke 12:35 “Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will have them recline at the table and will come and wait on them. 38 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them ready, even if he comes in the middle of the night or toward daybreak. 39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour* when you do not expect him.”
* - Notice it doesn't say that the Son of Man will come at a season when we don't expect Him - just the hour only at which He returns. We can still expect Him to return after the great tribulation.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6 So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober.
I believe in Jesus returning to collect us Post-Trib because that is clearly what the Bible says (not going to go over the verses because those have been posted over and over already). If you don't believe that, I'm completely fine with your disbelief and scorn. God did say that many will fall away in the great tribulation because such people didn't believe and prepare. And since you don't believe that the Lord will return Post-Trib AND don't believe the final antichrist exists, you're at a much higher risk of being one of the Christians who fall away because you don't love the truth. You don't even realize you're being sent a strong delusion to believe in.
2 Thessalonians 2:9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.
Laughing and mocking when the Bible plainly and clearly says that the Lord returns after the great tribulation and that the final antichrist exists shows you are already perishing. So go on, keep revealing yourself as already perishing before God and all His people. You are to be pitied more than anything else.