Hello, My first post here. Any advice/scripture/prayers for an aggressive interfaith marriage ? Aggressive in the sense of aggressively against the bible and Christian beliefs. There is a lot of yelling, insulting, mocking going on. I have tried staying quiet, tried to answer his accusations of the bible or the faith with apologetics, and more recently I have resorted to answering his attacks with a similar attack on his holy book ( not proud of it but thought maybe if he felt what i felt he would stop ). This has been going on for years now and it hasn't slowed down.. Any advice of course I am praying and believing that he is in God's hands but how can i make this situation more bearable in the meantime?!
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Thanks for sharing, and I see your hurt, Father God in Son does too. I cannot truly understand why this type of problems are in marriages, and many other places still today, ever since Adam and Eve's fall in "Unbelief of death happened, since, ate from one particular tree, that would bring awareness of right and wrong consciously to everyone in first birth off flesh nature. Ever since, people have played as if they are God and are not God, Only as god in the image of God, many do not see this truth yet. unfortunately. Psalm 82
That happened and we all here today, are in the consequences of that today. Each person wanting, waiting, to get peace and serenity, which I have only found in the risen Jesus, to have peace and not fight anymore physically or mentally, which I see we all are presented this, to see this, and when, anyone does not see it, arguments and fights happen. Even those that abuse people, are in anger, not yet seeing it as truth, yet wanting it and are angry over not getting it, usually because of sin, still sinning, not being worthy, being their view, which religion places in people, to have this mis understanding of: being 100% forgiven by God Father through Son for them on that cross in a one time death only that was done willingly by Son for us to be new in his risen Life given us. We under Law are under a curse to see we can't do it, and whenever anyone sees it, that, we, that person, can't do it, that person either rests by God this comes through as thank you I can't do it, you can and did it for me. thanksgiving and praise set in or Anger takes a hold. Yet the have to do and when one, anyone, do not get it, or see it, some react badly to those close to them. that is what is happening in your relationship and been happening.
And assuredly that is not good, as you know. I can say to you to turn to God, as I know you have been turned to God for help, and now here to hear any wisdom to get through this trouble. to you, and be at peace period.
I cannot say to you to leave or not leave. That be your discussion between God and you personally. To hear, as you are being stressed over this, naturally so.
I can say, get into a place, close the door, find time for this, someway, somehow, and talk to God and say, I see to trust you no matter what. I want to, while in these troubles, I have been trying to get through to him and see "I" can't. Father of risen Son Jesus for me "I" need you to work this out through me, ????I need you to speak through me as they did on Pentecost, thank you.
I will wait in trust, and get surprised when I hear your word(s) speak through me, I do not know how you will do this, I simply know you will, someway, somehow, thank you. I know you will and you will do whatever is needed, thank you
I once while in stress myself over my own marriage, I made a phone call to the Mental Hospital, I said Hello "I" would like to make a family reservation
Hope to have given you a little humor in the midst of this tragedy, I am in prayer for you and your husband as well
thank you Father to come through, not knowing how, not caring how, just that you will as I have seen you always do that so far, thank you
God is somehow good all time as good is God all the time someway, somehow as I, you or anyone else go through troubles too
Thanks for sharing, and I see your hurt, Father God in Son does too. I cannot truly understand why this type of problems are in marriages, and many other places still today, ever since Adam and Eve's fall in "Unbelief of death happened, since, ate from one particular tree, that would bring awareness of right and wrong consciously to everyone in first birth off flesh nature. Ever since, people have played as if they are God and are not God, Only as god in the image of God, many do not see this truth yet. unfortunately. Psalm 82
That happened and we all here today, are in the consequences of that today. Each person wanting, waiting, to get peace and serenity, which I have only found in the risen Jesus, to have peace and not fight anymore physically or mentally, which I see we all are presented this, to see this, and when, anyone does not see it, arguments and fights happen. Even those that abuse people, are in anger, not yet seeing it as truth, yet wanting it and are angry over not getting it, usually because of sin, still sinning, not being worthy, being their view, which religion places in people, to have this mis understanding of: being 100% forgiven by God Father through Son for them on that cross in a one time death only that was done willingly by Son for us to be new in his risen Life given us. We under Law are under a curse to see we can't do it, and whenever anyone sees it, that, we, that person, can't do it, that person either rests by God this comes through as thank you I can't do it, you can and did it for me. thanksgiving and praise set in or Anger takes a hold. Yet the have to do and when one, anyone, do not get it, or see it, some react badly to those close to them. that is what is happening in your relationship and been happening.
And assuredly that is not good, as you know. I can say to you to turn to God, as I know you have been turned to God for help, and now here to hear any wisdom to get through this trouble. to you, and be at peace period.
I cannot say to you to leave or not leave. That be your discussion between God and you personally. To hear, as you are being stressed over this, naturally so.
I can say, get into a place, close the door, find time for this, someway, somehow, and talk to God and say, I see to trust you no matter what. I want to, while in these troubles, I have been trying to get through to him and see "I" can't. Father of risen Son Jesus for me "I" need you to work this out through me, ????I need you to speak through me as they did on Pentecost, thank you.
I will wait in trust, and get surprised when I hear your word(s) speak through me, I do not know how you will do this, I simply know you will, someway, somehow, thank you. I know you will and you will do whatever is needed, thank you
I once while in stress myself over my own marriage, I made a phone call to the Mental Hospital, I said Hello "I" would like to make a family reservation
Hope to have given you a little humor in the midst of this tragedy, I am in prayer for you and your husband as well
thank you Father to come through, not knowing how, not caring how, just that you will as I have seen you always do that so far, thank you
God is somehow good all time as good is God all the time someway, somehow as I, you or anyone else go through troubles too
Okay, you might try discussing his and your concepts of marriage. Here is what I glean from the teaching of Jesus:
TOJ #104: Marriage is a spiritual union until death. [MT 19:4-6] The phrase about leaving one’s father and mother means that a man—and a woman—should be ready for marriage by attaining a sufficient degree of independence from their parents, both financial and psychological. They should be prepared to become parents themselves, even if they hope not to have a child for awhile, which means they should be rather spiritually mature, having the same love for each other as Christ has for His bride, the church.
The marital commitment is (or should be, cf. TOJ #109) signified by sexual union or becoming “one flesh” (GN 2:24), although it may be proper to fulfill legal and traditional expectations such as licenses and ceremonies for the purpose of avoiding being “a stumbling block to the weak” (1CR 8:9), who do not understand the essence of marriage.
Obviously, that which must not be separated is the spiritual unity, so the sin of divorce also is a spiritual event and reality before it becomes a legal one. This realization should motivate spouses to work on the quality of their communication before serious problems develop in their relationship. (I saw that you are not planning to leave, but I share the TOJ re divorce incase that has some things to consider.)
TOJ #26: You should not divorce. [MT 5:31-32a//MK 10:11//LK 16:18a] Jesus said that the only permissible reason for legal divorce is marital unfaithfulness or when the sin of spiritual divorce signified by adultery has already occurred. {MT 19:6-9//MK 10:6-9} See TOJ #104 on the meaning of marriage. The divine viewpoint, which all humans need to acquire, is that sexual intimacy should mean marriage, that divorce is a spiritual disaster before it leads to a legal dissolution, and that neither divorce nor a miserable marriage are moral options. This leaves only celibacy or working to make a happy marriage as permissible alternatives.
TOJ #27: Do not remarry except for godly reasons. [MT 5:32b//MK 10:12//LK 16:18b] Jesus probably prohibits remarriage in hope that reconciliation will occur, but understanding this statement as a blanket command that admits no exceptions is very problematic, because it would contradict other biblical teachings. Discerning whether spiritual remarriage is psychologically possible and legal remarriage morally permissible requires harmonizing several biblical passages:
TOJ #104: Marriage is a spiritual union until death. [MT 19:4-6] The phrase about leaving one’s father and mother means that a man—and a woman—should be ready for marriage by attaining a sufficient degree of independence from their parents, both financial and psychological. They should be prepared to become parents themselves, even if they hope not to have a child for awhile, which means they should be rather spiritually mature, having the same love for each other as Christ has for His bride, the church.
The marital commitment is (or should be, cf. TOJ #109) signified by sexual union or becoming “one flesh” (GN 2:24), although it may be proper to fulfill legal and traditional expectations such as licenses and ceremonies for the purpose of avoiding being “a stumbling block to the weak” (1CR 8:9), who do not understand the essence of marriage.
Obviously, that which must not be separated is the spiritual unity, so the sin of divorce also is a spiritual event and reality before it becomes a legal one. This realization should motivate spouses to work on the quality of their communication before serious problems develop in their relationship. (I saw that you are not planning to leave, but I share the TOJ re divorce incase that has some things to consider.)
TOJ #26: You should not divorce. [MT 5:31-32a//MK 10:11//LK 16:18a] Jesus said that the only permissible reason for legal divorce is marital unfaithfulness or when the sin of spiritual divorce signified by adultery has already occurred. {MT 19:6-9//MK 10:6-9} See TOJ #104 on the meaning of marriage. The divine viewpoint, which all humans need to acquire, is that sexual intimacy should mean marriage, that divorce is a spiritual disaster before it leads to a legal dissolution, and that neither divorce nor a miserable marriage are moral options. This leaves only celibacy or working to make a happy marriage as permissible alternatives.
TOJ #27: Do not remarry except for godly reasons. [MT 5:32b//MK 10:12//LK 16:18b] Jesus probably prohibits remarriage in hope that reconciliation will occur, but understanding this statement as a blanket command that admits no exceptions is very problematic, because it would contradict other biblical teachings. Discerning whether spiritual remarriage is psychologically possible and legal remarriage morally permissible requires harmonizing several biblical passages:
- Divorce and even adultery are not unforgivable (MT 12:31-32),
- Not everyone has the gift of celibacy, the ability to live happily very long without a sexual partner (MT 19:11-12, 1CR 7:9).
- We know that God desires reconciliation (1CR 7:10-11, 2CR 5:18-19),
- Paul indicated (in 1CR 7:15) that it is permissible for a Christian divorcee (unjustly so) to remarry if an unbelieving spouse was the divorcer (and, presumably, if reconciliation attempts have failed, because the “ex” has remarried or committed adultery/fornication).
- We also know that many sins including divorce are committed before a person believes the gospel and becomes a mature Believer by LGW and the TOJ. When people repent of Sin and confess their sins, then God forgives them (1JN 1:9) and views them as sharing the perfection of Christ (PHP 3:9).
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Amen, precious @kingdomcitizen, I will pray for you - please Be Very Richly Encouraged And Edified In Christ, and In His Precious Word Of Truth!:
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God's Grace Word for our infirmities!
Amen.
"Be careful [ anxious ] for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with
thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7 And The Peace of God, which
passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."
(Philippians 4:6-7 AV)
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God's Grace Word for our infirmities!
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Thankyou for your reassurance and your humor 
I am not thinking to leave as we have five precious young children. I am reminding myself that they are sanctified through me and trying to find peace in a very unpeaceful situation. I appreciate your prayers.
I am not thinking to leave as we have five precious young children. I am reminding myself that they are sanctified through me and trying to find peace in a very unpeaceful situation. I appreciate your prayers.
Remember what Jesus said ...they hate you because they hate me.....so sad.
Now can i ask what kind or type of Muslim he is? There are some different sects.
What for example is his view of jews? Does he pray 3 times a day?What nationality is he and does he come from a Muslim family?
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I’m guessing your husband is a Moslem? Whether that or something else, there is a straightforward strategy to deal with the situation: prayer.
Pray for grace to endure the verbal abuse, to maintain a respectful disposition, and of course for him to meet Jesus.
There are many ministries focusing on the various false religions; learn from the relevant ones but don’t try to argue with your husband; rather, invite him to investigate for himself.
Depending on where you live, you might also choose to separate with the requirement that the abuse ceases. That would require outside support. Whether you take this route or not, get prayer support from Christians who know you personally.
Pray for grace to endure the verbal abuse, to maintain a respectful disposition, and of course for him to meet Jesus.
There are many ministries focusing on the various false religions; learn from the relevant ones but don’t try to argue with your husband; rather, invite him to investigate for himself.
Depending on where you live, you might also choose to separate with the requirement that the abuse ceases. That would require outside support. Whether you take this route or not, get prayer support from Christians who know you personally.
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Now, for you to learn new in the truth given you from Father though risen Son
Living Bible
Luke 21:16-15
Therefore, don’t be concerned about how to answer the charges against you, for I will give you the right words and such logic that none of your opponents will be able to reply!
Do you believe God in this truth, do not answer me, answer Father in risen Son, watch, stand, you will see it happen through you. Then you might not, that is how flesh works always in against truth that sets people free in his risen Son Jesus for them. And each person is in different growth stages. I get the thought, he is against religion, not God, yet viewing it as it is God that has done the troubles he has gotten from religion.
I, personally was there myself over religion, and got caught up under Law, the lust of the flesh, got me into better not do or else attitude from the religious Church I was attending back in the 1990's, What a stress that took on me, an arguing over anything and everything, never feeling Like God loved me, because I had lust in my head.
Never followed through, just had it bewilder, me, beset me and make me guilty so deeply, That I began to think, how could God even love me to just have a bad thought!
Hammered by religion to quit, it got worse trying to quit. because I confessed it.
I, read Romans 7, so many times, I one day finally saw truth Paul was talking about and left religion behind me in the dust. Then I found me in bad habit lust would not leave, it haunted me deeply. Yet, I could not go through with it, to continue due to the lust, that had a hold on me, in it.
Now I did have one time, I failed and it did happen, and I confessed immediately to my wife.
Amazing, she forgave me, I saw new in the love and mercy given me from God through her forgiving me. Amazing grace began in and through me from God to me. Wow, I saw Isaiah 6:1-7 and went wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today, many other things have happened in troubles since. Now I see as Job saw in the book of Job, not to deny God ever, no matter what. I think from my read here, you are the same in trust to God to somehow, someway work this entire trouble out. Thank you for standing.
You might ask your husband, are these, those people of God, whom I hear you are against over the Bible? Whoever says they are of God, there still is the possibly they are not and only out for themselves, using God to get their way. Aren you Troubled about religion the Bible and God. From God or the people, you have experiences with? As well, it could be of his family background also. However, I bet since you will be led, by God. Conversation will begin in acceptance to each other and not try to control each other in how each other thinks.
I am elated over you and your husband having 5 children. My house was a family of five also
Yhis life here is a struggle. Me learning , learned how to react
Proverbs 15, comes to mind and that is not easy to respond without flesh acting out anger, when trying to be nice
Try, saying You love your children, a pet with an angry voice. How do you react when that happens to you
Get it, the fight is our emotional responses to wanting what we want and when not get it, we respond in anger, our bodies reveal this everytime
Now ask Father for the right way and trust Daddy, Papa to me to speak through you as Proverbs 15 tells us
Living Bible
Proverbs 15, not the whole Chapter, yet to me I find that helpful to remember, and whenever I tried to do that, I found "I" can't, I need God to do that through me to see it and be surprised as well as the others hearing will be too, thanks
A gentle answer turns away wrath, but harsh words cause quarrels.
A wise teacher makes learning a joy; a rebellious teacher spouts foolishness.
The Lord is watching everywhere and keeps his eye on both the evil and the good.
Gentle words cause life and health; griping brings discouragement.
Only a fool despises his father’s advice; a wise son considers each suggestion.
There is treasure in being good, but trouble dogs the wicked.
Only the good can give good advice. Rebels can’t.
Rebels can't, that is religion
religion is for anyone to join in with it, and get others to follow it and become righteous, when no person can. Only Son did it for us to rest in thanksgiving and praise over it
Even if it goes wrong. ask Father in prayer for the right motive working that through you ad Get surprised in the miraculous gift of God working that out in and through us that began at risen Son, that we do not see anymore in the flesh today, once did (2 Cor 5:16) no more. I know you are going to see and be surprised in thanksgiving and praise over this trouble one day
Living Bible
Luke 21:16-15
Therefore, don’t be concerned about how to answer the charges against you, for I will give you the right words and such logic that none of your opponents will be able to reply!
Do you believe God in this truth, do not answer me, answer Father in risen Son, watch, stand, you will see it happen through you. Then you might not, that is how flesh works always in against truth that sets people free in his risen Son Jesus for them. And each person is in different growth stages. I get the thought, he is against religion, not God, yet viewing it as it is God that has done the troubles he has gotten from religion.
I, personally was there myself over religion, and got caught up under Law, the lust of the flesh, got me into better not do or else attitude from the religious Church I was attending back in the 1990's, What a stress that took on me, an arguing over anything and everything, never feeling Like God loved me, because I had lust in my head.
Never followed through, just had it bewilder, me, beset me and make me guilty so deeply, That I began to think, how could God even love me to just have a bad thought!
Hammered by religion to quit, it got worse trying to quit. because I confessed it.
I, read Romans 7, so many times, I one day finally saw truth Paul was talking about and left religion behind me in the dust. Then I found me in bad habit lust would not leave, it haunted me deeply. Yet, I could not go through with it, to continue due to the lust, that had a hold on me, in it.
Now I did have one time, I failed and it did happen, and I confessed immediately to my wife.
Amazing, she forgave me, I saw new in the love and mercy given me from God through her forgiving me. Amazing grace began in and through me from God to me. Wow, I saw Isaiah 6:1-7 and went wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today, many other things have happened in troubles since. Now I see as Job saw in the book of Job, not to deny God ever, no matter what. I think from my read here, you are the same in trust to God to somehow, someway work this entire trouble out. Thank you for standing.
You might ask your husband, are these, those people of God, whom I hear you are against over the Bible? Whoever says they are of God, there still is the possibly they are not and only out for themselves, using God to get their way. Aren you Troubled about religion the Bible and God. From God or the people, you have experiences with? As well, it could be of his family background also. However, I bet since you will be led, by God. Conversation will begin in acceptance to each other and not try to control each other in how each other thinks.
I am elated over you and your husband having 5 children. My house was a family of five also
Yhis life here is a struggle. Me learning , learned how to react
Proverbs 15, comes to mind and that is not easy to respond without flesh acting out anger, when trying to be nice
Try, saying You love your children, a pet with an angry voice. How do you react when that happens to you
Get it, the fight is our emotional responses to wanting what we want and when not get it, we respond in anger, our bodies reveal this everytime
Now ask Father for the right way and trust Daddy, Papa to me to speak through you as Proverbs 15 tells us
Living Bible
Proverbs 15, not the whole Chapter, yet to me I find that helpful to remember, and whenever I tried to do that, I found "I" can't, I need God to do that through me to see it and be surprised as well as the others hearing will be too, thanks
A gentle answer turns away wrath, but harsh words cause quarrels.
A wise teacher makes learning a joy; a rebellious teacher spouts foolishness.
The Lord is watching everywhere and keeps his eye on both the evil and the good.
Gentle words cause life and health; griping brings discouragement.
Only a fool despises his father’s advice; a wise son considers each suggestion.
There is treasure in being good, but trouble dogs the wicked.
Only the good can give good advice. Rebels can’t.
Rebels can't, that is religion
religion is for anyone to join in with it, and get others to follow it and become righteous, when no person can. Only Son did it for us to rest in thanksgiving and praise over it
Even if it goes wrong. ask Father in prayer for the right motive working that through you ad Get surprised in the miraculous gift of God working that out in and through us that began at risen Son, that we do not see anymore in the flesh today, once did (2 Cor 5:16) no more. I know you are going to see and be surprised in thanksgiving and praise over this trouble one day
huh? I see NO healthy fighting in a marriage that God Designed To Be "Healthy In LOVE!":
"Charity [ LOVE ] suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth
not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own,
is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in
the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things."
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7 AV)
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thank you ! Yes my spirit knows this but my flesh is weak. I try not to answer but when it goes on and on I snap. I am praying for strength to ignore him because i know in the end the enemy is at fault not my husband. In the moment it sure does feel like he is the problem though! He is Lebanese, sunni, from a muslim family, prays five times a day, says he hates Zionists not jews, curses Israel ...
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For me, I see to let it go, once it be over. To not let it continue to interfere afterwords. yet it does, does it not? What?
To hold onto any past arguments. Does not leave it behind you. And there are many arguments that do not get solved. Been married now over 40 years. And both of us, after any argument, after it is over, whether solved or not, we let it go bye-bye.
To ponder over the want to agree or disagree to agree after it is Past, only brings it back up and brings out more of Ian not heard and so fight continues.
Acceptance of, it is past as fast at it became, is best for my wife and I
I belonged to a group of people once. It was a small, gathering of us. Not one of us knew the other one. We did get to know one another, yet that was not the purpose of this get together.
It Was, to vent, period. Each person whomever began the venting, was to vent, state however they felt, and was not to ever get interrupted while venting. No one was allowed to help the other. The only thing anyone could do was, when that person venting stated they were done, they would listen to others feedback.
What?????????????????????? Yes, all the others were ever allowed to do was, to repeat words used by that one that just vented. Only words heard, not interpreting any word. none
That was incredibly hard to do, to learn new, to only repeat back words heard only
Now that takes listening, to be able to hear and repeat just the words heard. This was an incredible healing journey for me personally
I would vent out, whatever was on my mind, bad or good, when done I would say I am done,
Then I would hear from another person there, I would hear the words they heard me use.
Talk about healing, when having a mirror to repeat back to me the words I stated and now heard. I do not know how or why this works, yet it does and did for me anyways
The rules were to not ever interrupt any person when venting out whatever it is that person needed to get out of their system
To not interpret anything they were saying, learn to repeat their words only back to them
That is not easy, yet worth it to me, once I heard words I used, no interpretation's of those words I used from the others. I knew and now know what I meant by whatever word(s) I used, no one else sincerely did nor does.
One the guys there, said this. How Elated they were now, not being interrupted while venting. They saw before in the past, when trying to get something out, whether good or bad, and they got interrupted in past, now no more, wow, they got healing from it
This person said this, using an analogy of throw up
Venting is like throwing up, if anyone gets interrupted while throwing up, that is like to me now, having to pick back up my throw up, that I never got to finish throwing out. No rest and no getting it out finished.
Anyone, else see this in their own lives as well? I did and now do.
Might be time to change the way we all want to help another and learn to listen to the words the other used, only giving those words back to them, when they say they are done you think?
Try it, it might take a while to get that down, Yet I know it is worth it, to me at least.
To hold onto any past arguments. Does not leave it behind you. And there are many arguments that do not get solved. Been married now over 40 years. And both of us, after any argument, after it is over, whether solved or not, we let it go bye-bye.
To ponder over the want to agree or disagree to agree after it is Past, only brings it back up and brings out more of Ian not heard and so fight continues.
Acceptance of, it is past as fast at it became, is best for my wife and I
I belonged to a group of people once. It was a small, gathering of us. Not one of us knew the other one. We did get to know one another, yet that was not the purpose of this get together.
It Was, to vent, period. Each person whomever began the venting, was to vent, state however they felt, and was not to ever get interrupted while venting. No one was allowed to help the other. The only thing anyone could do was, when that person venting stated they were done, they would listen to others feedback.
What?????????????????????? Yes, all the others were ever allowed to do was, to repeat words used by that one that just vented. Only words heard, not interpreting any word. none
That was incredibly hard to do, to learn new, to only repeat back words heard only
Now that takes listening, to be able to hear and repeat just the words heard. This was an incredible healing journey for me personally
I would vent out, whatever was on my mind, bad or good, when done I would say I am done,
Then I would hear from another person there, I would hear the words they heard me use.
Talk about healing, when having a mirror to repeat back to me the words I stated and now heard. I do not know how or why this works, yet it does and did for me anyways
The rules were to not ever interrupt any person when venting out whatever it is that person needed to get out of their system
To not interpret anything they were saying, learn to repeat their words only back to them
That is not easy, yet worth it to me, once I heard words I used, no interpretation's of those words I used from the others. I knew and now know what I meant by whatever word(s) I used, no one else sincerely did nor does.
One the guys there, said this. How Elated they were now, not being interrupted while venting. They saw before in the past, when trying to get something out, whether good or bad, and they got interrupted in past, now no more, wow, they got healing from it
This person said this, using an analogy of throw up
Venting is like throwing up, if anyone gets interrupted while throwing up, that is like to me now, having to pick back up my throw up, that I never got to finish throwing out. No rest and no getting it out finished.
Anyone, else see this in their own lives as well? I did and now do.
Might be time to change the way we all want to help another and learn to listen to the words the other used, only giving those words back to them, when they say they are done you think?
Try it, it might take a while to get that down, Yet I know it is worth it, to me at least.
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healing comes from venting it all out, to be heard and not interrupted while getting it out
oh and not accused or excused either, thank you, The love of God actually works that way, at least me
We now get to have a friendship relationship with Father, thanks to Jesus, thank you Jesus, not be abused, accused or excused over anything one might think. We get to get it out and get healed from getting it out Wow woe is me
oh and not accused or excused either, thank you, The love of God actually works that way, at least me
We now get to have a friendship relationship with Father, thanks to Jesus, thank you Jesus, not be abused, accused or excused over anything one might think. We get to get it out and get healed from getting it out Wow woe is me
I wonder whether he would be open to learning God's peace plan:
Christianity is God’s bridge uniting monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc.) rather than a wall separating them. This truth is derived from a statement by the apostle Paul (in 1TM 2:3-4) indicating that Yahweh/God/Allah loves all people and wants everyone to love each other as one happy spiritual family or fellowship, and He is grieved when people who claim to believe in Him quarrel (Ephesians 4:30-31).
When Judaism was reformed by Jesus and his apostles, Paul taught (in RM 2:28-29, 4:16-17 & GL 3:29) that what matters is not the religion of our parents, but whether each of us has faith like Abraham in the one true God. A spiritual Jew loves God (DT 6:4-5), a true Christian loves God and humanity (MT 22:37-40), and a genuine Muslim serves God by cooperating with His plan of salvation (MT 24:45 & 25:21). Theists can be Jewish, Christian and Muslim, because Christianity is God’s solution/plan for peace in the world (EPH 2:11-22).
The purpose of Judaism was to provide the heritage for Messiah for the benefit of all people (RM 3:21-31, 9:4-5a, IS 42:1-6, GN 22:18, DT 9:5-6), and the intent of Islam (stated by the Qur’an in Surah 2:89) was “confirming” God’s previous revelations to the Jews and Christians (the OT & NT). When Jews became Messianic, Paul and Peter agreed that they could follow the old Jewish customs that did not contradict faith in Jesus as Lord (ACTS 15:5-29 & GL 2:15-16). Because everything good and true is from God (JM 1:27), accepting Jesus as Messiah does not mean rejecting what is good and true in one’s pre-Christian experience or culture.
However, the relationship between Jesus, Moses and Mohammed needs to be harmonized. Paul wrote (in 1TM 2:5): “For there is one God and one mediator between God and humanity, the man Christ [Messiah] Jesus.” This verse clearly indicates that the Christian concept known as the Trinity should not be understood as contradicting faith in one God. Similarly, calling Messiah “God’s Son” should not be understood as contradicting the humanity of Jesus (HB 2:17), the one God ordained to die unjustly as payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity. God relates to humanity in three primary ways: as the Creator or Father over all, as the Holy Spirit (cf. Surah 2:87) within believers, and as the human Messiah/Jesus with humanity (Immanuel in MT 1:23).
Thus, Muslims–like Jews–may accept Jesus as Messiah with the understanding that the Mosaic laws Islamic five pillars do not contradict the Christian gospel of salvation. In the OT God established a covenant with Abraham (GN 15:18, 17:2) by which “all nations on earth will be blessed” (GN 8:18), Jeremiah revealed that the Mosaic covenant would be superseded by a new covenant (JR31:31, cf. HB 7:18-10:1), and Isaiah associated the new covenant with Messiah, “my chosen one”, who would also be “a light for the Gentiles” (IS 42:1,6&9, 49:5-6&8, 59:20-60:3, 61:1 & 62:2&11). God’s “chosen people” potentially includes everyone in the world who satisfies His requirement for salvation by seeking truth and finding Messiah (EPH 2:11-3:6, RM 10:1-11:32). [Whether or not the physical nation of Israel will play some political role before the end/eschaton is another issue.]
In EPH 3:1-6, note that world peace through the gospel of Christ was a “mystery” until Paul received a divine revelation. As Paul wrote in 1CR 2:7-8, “We speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” Thus, although with hindsight we can see how Old Testament scriptures foreshadowed Christ, we should not expect that they specifically prophesied the gospel (although Isaiah 53 is quite impressive). In summary, the evidence of accepting God’s will and cooperating with Him is manifesting love for everyone including enemies, which is the opposite of that held by those claiming to believe in God/Allah who are grieving Him by terrorizing humanity.
Christianity is God’s bridge uniting monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc.) rather than a wall separating them. This truth is derived from a statement by the apostle Paul (in 1TM 2:3-4) indicating that Yahweh/God/Allah loves all people and wants everyone to love each other as one happy spiritual family or fellowship, and He is grieved when people who claim to believe in Him quarrel (Ephesians 4:30-31).
When Judaism was reformed by Jesus and his apostles, Paul taught (in RM 2:28-29, 4:16-17 & GL 3:29) that what matters is not the religion of our parents, but whether each of us has faith like Abraham in the one true God. A spiritual Jew loves God (DT 6:4-5), a true Christian loves God and humanity (MT 22:37-40), and a genuine Muslim serves God by cooperating with His plan of salvation (MT 24:45 & 25:21). Theists can be Jewish, Christian and Muslim, because Christianity is God’s solution/plan for peace in the world (EPH 2:11-22).
The purpose of Judaism was to provide the heritage for Messiah for the benefit of all people (RM 3:21-31, 9:4-5a, IS 42:1-6, GN 22:18, DT 9:5-6), and the intent of Islam (stated by the Qur’an in Surah 2:89) was “confirming” God’s previous revelations to the Jews and Christians (the OT & NT). When Jews became Messianic, Paul and Peter agreed that they could follow the old Jewish customs that did not contradict faith in Jesus as Lord (ACTS 15:5-29 & GL 2:15-16). Because everything good and true is from God (JM 1:27), accepting Jesus as Messiah does not mean rejecting what is good and true in one’s pre-Christian experience or culture.
However, the relationship between Jesus, Moses and Mohammed needs to be harmonized. Paul wrote (in 1TM 2:5): “For there is one God and one mediator between God and humanity, the man Christ [Messiah] Jesus.” This verse clearly indicates that the Christian concept known as the Trinity should not be understood as contradicting faith in one God. Similarly, calling Messiah “God’s Son” should not be understood as contradicting the humanity of Jesus (HB 2:17), the one God ordained to die unjustly as payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity. God relates to humanity in three primary ways: as the Creator or Father over all, as the Holy Spirit (cf. Surah 2:87) within believers, and as the human Messiah/Jesus with humanity (Immanuel in MT 1:23).
Thus, Muslims–like Jews–may accept Jesus as Messiah with the understanding that the Mosaic laws Islamic five pillars do not contradict the Christian gospel of salvation. In the OT God established a covenant with Abraham (GN 15:18, 17:2) by which “all nations on earth will be blessed” (GN 8:18), Jeremiah revealed that the Mosaic covenant would be superseded by a new covenant (JR31:31, cf. HB 7:18-10:1), and Isaiah associated the new covenant with Messiah, “my chosen one”, who would also be “a light for the Gentiles” (IS 42:1,6&9, 49:5-6&8, 59:20-60:3, 61:1 & 62:2&11). God’s “chosen people” potentially includes everyone in the world who satisfies His requirement for salvation by seeking truth and finding Messiah (EPH 2:11-3:6, RM 10:1-11:32). [Whether or not the physical nation of Israel will play some political role before the end/eschaton is another issue.]
In EPH 3:1-6, note that world peace through the gospel of Christ was a “mystery” until Paul received a divine revelation. As Paul wrote in 1CR 2:7-8, “We speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” Thus, although with hindsight we can see how Old Testament scriptures foreshadowed Christ, we should not expect that they specifically prophesied the gospel (although Isaiah 53 is quite impressive). In summary, the evidence of accepting God’s will and cooperating with Him is manifesting love for everyone including enemies, which is the opposite of that held by those claiming to believe in God/Allah who are grieving Him by terrorizing humanity.
I have good friends that are Muslim. I am even friends with a couple of Iman. We've had several discussions about the God of Abraham. But the funniest thing happened in one of our discussions. We talked about Jesus.
Now to the Muslims Jesus is a Holy Man. To the Christian Jesus is God. But we were discussing about things that happened in Churches or Mosques. We got specifically towards Miracles.
The Iman said to me, you know, that's where you have us at. I asked what did he mean? He said, there's never miracles happening in the Mosque or the Muslim faith. But he then said we have seen them happen in the Church.
I then replied, that is because we see Jesus as God. The Iman said, he needs to research that.
But just to mention this, a couple of my Muslim friends are now Christians and believe Jesus is God.
So keep praying and I will pray and I believe God will open your husband's eyes and understanding 🙏
Now to the Muslims Jesus is a Holy Man. To the Christian Jesus is God. But we were discussing about things that happened in Churches or Mosques. We got specifically towards Miracles.
The Iman said to me, you know, that's where you have us at. I asked what did he mean? He said, there's never miracles happening in the Mosque or the Muslim faith. But he then said we have seen them happen in the Church.
I then replied, that is because we see Jesus as God. The Iman said, he needs to research that.
But just to mention this, a couple of my Muslim friends are now Christians and believe Jesus is God.
So keep praying and I will pray and I believe God will open your husband's eyes and understanding 🙏
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