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homwardbound

homwardbound

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kingdomcitizen said:
As I said in my original post he is aggressively against my beliefs. He isn't just stating his beliefs he is trying to control mine and yes there has been physical and mental aggression.. spitting in my face, pushing me, telling me I am worshipping a man, worshipping the devil etc...I'm not arguing over who is right who is wrong. I am arguing that God gave me free will and he should respect the fact that we are free to choose even if he disagrees with me but he doesn't seem to be able to let it go. Thanks anyways, your advice is good for two people who are capable of respect but that is not my situation.
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So, sorry you are in this mess. You knew maybe going in, I do not know
I do know God wants us all to be at peace
And says this truth
Better to live in the corner of an attic, than with an angry person. actually states woman, which I see as a misinterpretation of male dominance, not freedom for to us all
Your marriage is headed down the hill, and over.
the only way I see you will keep its going is: to submit to his way and obey
There is a movie on Netflix, called "Be sweet, pray and obey"
Not good or is not well for anyone's soul to be controlled
My prayer is for you to see through and do whatever it is Father tells you to do privately, from your own private closet door closed to hear what to do and not suffer either way you choose to do, for either way you choose suffering and shame will comfort you, no matter which way you go

I am praying for love to get to husband God's type in 1 Cor 13:4-7
 
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Daisy2

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Kingdomscitizen,

The middle east doesnt have freedom of religion. He's not going to give you the Courtesy that he didn't grow up with. You wont be able to convice him. Woman aren't thought of by much by Muslim. What ever you think will be lower that what he thinks. This is how they were taught. (What does a woman know?) They also grew up hearing that Jesus was a bastard. Don't try to convince him with words. It would be best if a guy helped convert him. Dont fight just do everything he tells you.

Pray that his heart will be softened. Say something like this "I've been listening to the Quran lately but it doesn't give me the same peace this does" and have him listen to the audio Bible. God will guide you to what part. Our father will do the rest. or perhaps introduce him to a sermon by Billy graham? God Bless
 
SomeDisciple

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1 Peter Ch2&3 is the biblical answer. Submission is the prescribed course of action. Most men; but Muslim men in particular are not going to be won by women trying to preach at them.

I bet your husband is frustrated because on a subtle level he correctly believes that he and his wife should believe in the same spiritual things, and he is trying to fix that; but can't because he has identified your beliefs as the fault, when it's his beliefs that are the fault.

The "great thing" about Islam is that you can kind of respectfully call your husband out for being inconsistent with his own faith if he treats you badly for being a Christian. Because unlike Christianity Islam does not set the expectation that their men marry only people of the same faith.

Stolen from Wikipedia- English translation of the Ashtiname by Anton F. Haddad
This is a letter which was issued by Mohammed, Ibn Abdullah, the Messenger, the Prophet, the Faithful, who is sent to all the people as a trust on the part of God to all His creatures, that they may have no plea against God hereafter....
Should any Christian woman be married to a Musluman, such marriage must not take place except after her consent, and she must not be prevented from going to her church for prayer. Their churches must be honored and they must not be withheld from building churches or repairing convents. They must not be forced to carry arms or stones; but the Islams must protect them and defend them against others. It is positively incumbent upon every one of the Islam nation not to contradict or disobey this oath until the Day of Resurrection and the end of the world.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead

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Daisy2 said:
A muslim man was saying this to me on facebook some years ago. And they certainly don't believe Jesus was born from the holy spirit like we do. And they also don't believe Jesus was Joseph son either.
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He was an anomaly then. Muslims consider Jesus a prophet
 
SomeDisciple

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Islam is in a state of being systematically dismantled on a scholarly level. At the end of the day, all Islam really is, is a political ideology wrapped in philosophical musings that frequently contradict; and a feeble attempt to shoehorn in Judeo-Christian history. A man that is serious about God, and putting in the prayer and study will eventually reach this conclusion.

A major problem with de-conversion from Islam, is that it by their reckoning, it carries a death-sentence.... so... you can't really expect something like this to happen on a whim. As dumb as Islam is, there are still strong cultural and spiritual powers behind it.
 
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kingdomcitizen

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homwardbound said:
So, sorry you are in this mess. You knew maybe going in, I do not know
I do know God wants us all to be at peace
And says this truth
Better to live in the corner of an attic, than with an angry person. actually states woman, which I see as a misinterpretation of male dominance, not freedom for to us all
Your marriage is headed down the hill, and over.
the only way I see you will keep its going is: to submit to his way and obey
There is a movie on Netflix, called "Be sweet, pray and obey"
Not good or is not well for anyone's soul to be controlled
My prayer is for you to see through and do whatever it is Father tells you to do privately, from your own private closet door closed to hear what to do and not suffer either way you choose to do, for either way you choose suffering and shame will comfort you, no matter which way you go

I am praying for love to get to husband God's type in 1 Cor 13:4-7[/QUOTE


Daisy2 said:
A muslim man was saying this to me on facebook some years ago. And they certainly don't believe Jesus was born from the holy spirit like we do. And they also don't believe Jesus was Joseph son either.[/QUOTE
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Daisy2 said:
Kingdomscitizen,

I'm sorry you are going through this. If it's your resolve to stay with your husband it might be a good idea to be quiet. There no arguement if its just one way. Take one day at time. Put all your trust in our father he will guide you.

This next part is to Hide your children and husband's passports. My mothers friend married a muslim man. She was catholic and they started fighting. He took off with the kids To the middle east. She never saw her daughters again.
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Yes I think you are right there , as proverbs says do not answer a fool with his folly or you yourself will be like him . That situation sounds like the movie Not without my daughter
 
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kingdomcitizen

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lrs68 said:
I know this is easier said than done because I am a man. But, I would say, either to him or at him whether loud enough he can hear but definitely loud enough the Devil can hear, The LORD Rebuke you Satan! Greater is He that is in me then he that is in the world. Get thee behind me in the name of Jesus!

I'm not promising your husband won't come unglued but placing him in Rebuke puts God into complete control. And even though it might become bad for you in the immediate timeframe. It's killing him literally both immediately and in the long run until he converts or just begins to leave you alone.
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I have tried that in the past and it felt unproductive . He is a yeller so he will just yell louder to drown me out. What I have started to do though when he is praying in the other room with the kids I will quietly to myself say I rebuke the spirit of the Antichrist in this home , I rebuke the spirit of deception , break my family free from the stronghold of this religion in Jesus’s name ..
 
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kingdomcitizen

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homwardbound said:
So, sorry you are in this mess. You knew maybe going in, I do not know
I do know God wants us all to be at peace
And says this truth
Better to live in the corner of an attic, than with an angry person. actually states woman, which I see as a misinterpretation of male dominance, not freedom for to us all
Your marriage is headed down the hill, and over.
the only way I see you will keep its going is: to submit to his way and obey
There is a movie on Netflix, called "Be sweet, pray and obey"
Not good or is not well for anyone's soul to be controlled
My prayer is for you to see through and do whatever it is Father tells you to do privately, from your own private closet door closed to hear what to do and not suffer either way you choose to do, for either way you choose suffering and shame will comfort you, no matter which way you go

I am praying for love to get to husband God's type in 1 Cor 13:4-7
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I’m not sure how to feel about your replies . In one moment you sound supportive and the other you sound like you are gaslighting . I’m not sure that you are aware , maybe it is a language barrier ?
 
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kingdomcitizen

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
That's not a Muslim thing. It's Jewish
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Yes you are right , not a Muslim thing . My husband constantly says he puts Jesus on a pedestal and that Muslims respect and follow Jesus more then Christians as they have dietary laws , they fast , etc etc .. it’s completely absurd but this is the argument of Muslim apologists I hear often ..
 
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Daisy2 said:
A muslim man was saying this to me on facebook some years ago. And they certainly don't believe Jesus was born from the holy spirit like we do. And they also don't believe Jesus was Joseph son either.
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They do believe he was born of a virgin .. and he is called Gods word in the Quran but if you point this out they will just say he is like other prophets that brought Gods word although no other prophets in the Quran are referred to in this way
 
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SomeDisciple said:
1 Peter Ch2&3 is the biblical answer. Submission is the prescribed course of action. Most men; but Muslim men in particular are not going to be won by women trying to preach at them.

I bet your husband is frustrated because on a subtle level he correctly believes that he and his wife should believe in the same spiritual things, and he is trying to fix that; but can't because he has identified your beliefs as the fault, when it's his beliefs that are the fault.

The "great thing" about Islam is that you can kind of respectfully call your husband out for being inconsistent with his own faith if he treats you badly for being a Christian. Because unlike Christianity Islam does not set the expectation that their men marry only people of the same faith.

Stolen from Wikipedia- English translation of the Ashtiname by Anton F. Haddad
This is a letter which was issued by Mohammed, Ibn Abdullah, the Messenger, the Prophet, the Faithful, who is sent to all the people as a trust on the part of God to all His creatures, that they may have no plea against God hereafter....
Should any Christian woman be married to a Musluman, such marriage must not take place except after her consent, and she must not be prevented from going to her church for prayer. Their churches must be honored and they must not be withheld from building churches or repairing convents. They must not be forced to carry arms or stones; but the Islams must protect them and defend them against others. It is positively incumbent upon every one of the Islam nation not to contradict or disobey this oath until the Day of Resurrection and the end of the world.
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I will look into this .. thank you very much . I think yes he is frustrated but it has to be more then that because he didn’t have a problem when I was just a cultural Christian living in the world . He wasn’t trying to convince me of anything then . Once I was born again and started reading the bible some spirit in him awakened and went on the attack .
 
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No that really happened. I meet her once when we were visiting her church. It happens more then you think but western country don't keep data saying it's a stereotype but Malaysia does https://www.malaymail.com/news/mala...ing-kids-in-custody-wars-sis-data-shows/81343

I reread your posts it sound like being quiet isn't working. Kingdomscitizen, This man doesn't love you. He couldn't love anyone. Do you really want to be a martyr?
 
SomeDisciple

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kingdomcitizen said:
I think yes he is frustrated but it has to be more then that because he didn’t have a problem when I was just a cultural Christian living in the world . He wasn’t trying to convince me of anything then . Once I was born again and started reading the bible some spirit in him awakened and went on the attack .
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From a spiritual warfare perspective that makes a lot of sense. And from a mans perspective it's going to be very difficult for him; because it takes humility not only to admit to being wrong about stuff- but also leading his household in the wrong direction. A particularly hard thing to do, if he can't see the reward for doing it. There's a lot of nuance, because even if he came to believe there's so many hard-heartening obstacles.
 
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kingdomcitizen

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Daisy2 said:
No that really happened. I meet her once when we were visiting her church. It happens more then you think but western country don't keep data saying it's a stereotype but Malaysia does https://www.malaymail.com/news/mala...ing-kids-in-custody-wars-sis-data-shows/81343

I reread your posts it sound like being quiet isn't working. Kingdomscitizen, This man doesn't love you. He couldn't love anyone. Do you really want to be a martyr?
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I’m sure it does happen I didn’t mean to question the story I believe it happened . If there were no children involved I would not stay …
 
SomeDisciple

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kingdomcitizen said:
I will look into this .. thank you very much
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I hope it works out. As you were once a "cultural christian"; Muslims are also "culturally muslim" and listen to Muhammed about as well as the ancient Jews listened to the actual prophets. But I think if you carefully convey the idea that the truth is the most important thing to you; and you also hope that one day your family can hold a common faith even if you don't agree now- I think that could go a long way.
 
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