Becomes Trump a dictator?

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ZNP

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Notice how the same ones Who have been screaming about how AI tech is "satanic", but it suddenly becomes okay because he's working for the great orange one.
Cognitive dissonance much?
AI Tech is demonic, not Satanic. A demon is tied to the concept of genius. The temptation of AI is the same temptation we had in the garden, a tree of the knowledge of good and evil that is able to make us wise, like God.

I'm not aware of anyone screaming about this, but posting would be more accurate. Yes, many have been posting that these things are the rise of the Beast empire, an empire unlike the others.

As for the chip put into your brain mingling man with computer, that is what Daniel talked about, Nebuchadnezzar's dream, miry clay mingled with iron. There is no cognitive dissonance, the Beast system is rising, the prophecy in Daniel is being fulfilled, we are beholding the Beast rise from the sea.

This is simply every word of the Bible being fulfilled, God telling us the end from the beginning, and God the father being hallowed in His Son.
 

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1 Timothy 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; 7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
 

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AI Tech is demonic, not Satanic. A demon is tied to the concept of genius. The temptation of AI is the same temptation we had in the garden, a tree of the knowledge of good and evil that is able to make us wise, like God.

I'm not aware of anyone screaming about this, but posting would be more accurate. Yes, many have been posting that these things are the rise of the Beast empire, an empire unlike the others.

As for the chip put into your brain mingling man with computer, that is what Daniel talked about, Nebuchadnezzar's dream, miry clay mingled with iron. There is no cognitive dissonance, the Beast system is rising, the prophecy in Daniel is being fulfilled, we are beholding the Beast rise from the sea.

This is simply every word of the Bible being fulfilled, God telling us the end from the beginning, and God the father being hallowed in His Son.
But why help it along? Why vote in the beast system? Why would you cheer on an administration that is setting up a system that you disagree with?
 

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The problem is is that this administration does not believe that the executive branch needs to follow court orders and is currently in violation of court orders.

Pam Bondi will most likely tell the US marshals to stand down.

We have never been here as Americans. No other administration has done this.
You just changed the subject. Nice
 

Tamarisk

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You just changed the subject. Nice
Pardon me for not making my reply clear. I was replying to this statement that you made.

“Very likely it’s constitutional , but TBD eventually by the Supreme Court.“
 

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But why help it along? Why vote in the beast system? Why would you cheer on an administration that is setting up a system that you disagree with?
I was once like that. :(
Its the system (dispensationalism) it is not a good influence.
 

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Notice how the same ones Who have been screaming about how AI tech is "satanic", but it suddenly becomes okay because he's working for the great orange one.
Cognitive dissonance much?
The about face is stunning.
A private citizen, we will go with Leon, with a nice office working in a "created department" not approved by Congress with a handful of young tech geeks given access to private information of citizens.
 

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I was once like that. :(
Its the system (dispensationalism) it is not a good influence.
Yeah, that’s because when you believe something is inevitable you end up, mitigating your losses and cheering it on.

It’s not inevitable we all have free will.
We don’t have to play their game. We can say no when they tell us to do something we do not want to do.And when we do that, it becomes infectious and other people will stand up and say no, even some that are cheering it on now.
 

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Yeah, that’s because when you believe something is inevitable you end up, mitigating your losses and cheering it on.

It’s not inevitable we all have free will.
We don’t have to play their game. We can say no when they tell us to do something we do not want to do.And when we do that, it becomes infectious and other people will stand up and say no, even some that are cheering it on now.
Very well stated, thank you, I really hope so, or else we headed down a bad path, listen to Hegseth talk..... makes me shudder.
 

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It's like a bad joke where an agnostic(musk), a Jew that thinks the Scriptures are myth(Altman) and a POTUS who doesn't know much about Christianity(Trump) are all scratching their heads trying to figure out what the preterite's and futurist are even talking about.
 

ZNP

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But why help it along? Why vote in the beast system? Why would you cheer on an administration that is setting up a system that you disagree with?
You learn by doing

John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

The Greek word here for "know" is the same Greek word used saying that Joseph didn't know his wife until she had had Jesus. There is a difference between theoretical knowledge and experiential knowledge.

James 1:22 "Be doers of the word and not merely hearers who deceive themselves"

I learned this as a teacher. After my first year teaching I was shocked at how poorly my students did on the statewide exam. I looked at questions they got wrong and was saying "I covered this". The problem was they were merely hearers and not doers. I had deceived myself thinking that if I spoke about it they learned it and knew it. This is where I learned I would need to change up all my teaching so that the kids would learn by doing. Many years later my students were scoring at the very top of the city on the year end exam and kids were telling me I was the only teacher that didn't teach! This was almost true, I would minimize my teaching to a few minutes and then from then on the kids would have to work out the problems for themselves.

Now consider human government. We have had Pharoahs who claimed they were gods, emperors who claimed to be children of gods, kings who claimed they had the divine right to rule, military dictators who claimed they were dealing with corrupt rulers, Nazi dictators, and finally democratically elected officials. We have tried constitutional monarchy in England, parliamentary democracy like France, and a constitutional republic like the US. Ever since Noah we have learned about government by doing.

So then, what have we learned? We learned that the constitutional republic is the worst form of government except for all the other forms of government, which are worse. Since the US is the most promising form of government the world has seen in six thousand years, what have we learned about it? We have learned that a country of 360 million is ruled by 535 people and you only need half of them, say 270 to pass a law. Now imagine you have a law that benefits some, say 200 of these representatives so they will pass it. All you need to do is entice another 70 to vote for it. These 270 people control a budget of $7 trillion and yet $7 million is likely enough to entice another 70 to vote for this! That is 0.0001% of the money they control. This is called skimming and it is easy to think that no one will notice this. Imagine you are a cashier at a grocery store and you take in $10,000 a day. Will anyone miss one penny? That is a fair comparison. But we have learned something else, corruption is like leprosy, it spreads. One congressman sees you getting all kinds of perks by being corrupt and so he wants in on that. People see the corruption in congress and so they want to be congressmen, so they can partake of that. As it spreads you have two problems, those who partook before are now being blackmailed to partake again because if they don't they will be prosecuted and go to jail. Also, those who know about it are demanding to be given money to keep quiet. Soon you have to money launder billions of dollars through FTX to buy off all these congressmen, paying for them to get reelected. This in turn results in another problem, elections become more and more expensive because fat cats getting rich from the government programs are paying for people to get elected to help push through their pork. Think about the US we didn't even make it to 300 years before the corruption was completely off the rails, bankrupting the nation. It began by taking a penny, but now the US government spends $7 trillion and only takes in $4.5 trillion. Now it is like that person who started out taking $0.01 is now taking $5,000.00 a day. Why aren't the cashiers fired? Because they pay money to the manager. Why isn't he fired? Because he gives money to the accountant. Why isn't he fired? He gives money to the auditor. Why isn't the owner firing all of them? The owner is the taxpayer and they have been treated like idiots.

My point is not that Trump is going to clean up this mess. My point is that we have learned by doing that man is sinful and as long as you have sinful men you cannot have clean government that you can trust.

All of this should be pointing people to Jesus Christ, the king of kings and Lord of lords as the savior of the world.

As for your claim that I have helped it along, this is plainly idiotic. How? I didn't invent the computer. I did not give the Pentagon tons of money and hidden programs. I was not behind 911 to give the pentagon a blank check, drones, and let them develop AI. Nor do I tell China, Israel, Russia or Iran what to do.

I did not build the chips in Taiwan. I did not design AI.

You think your vote in an election in the US where 5% of the world's population lives can "help AI along" or "help the beast system along" you are nuts.

I did not build Teslas nor did I buy one. I didn't put Starlink satellites all over the Earth so that they could switch to a digital currency. I didn't invent Bitcoin to test out a digital currency.

And the reality is you have done absolutely nothing to slow down this move to the beast system. It is beyond your control and beyond mine. This is God's word being fulfilled.
 

ZNP

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But why help it along? Why vote in the beast system? Why would you cheer on an administration that is setting up a system that you disagree with?

LIVE| Biden Admin Accused of Massive $250 Billion Financial Scandal! |Trump |Times Now world

If you keep talking like that you will be treated like a fool. No one is going to listen to someone telling them to ignore a system that is uncovering $250 billion financial scandal.

The bible tells us the Beast system will rise out of the nations. It never tells us to try and stop that happening. This vision was first given to Nebuchadnezzar. Ever since that time the world leaders have been working towards this vision. Why do you think they have the all seeing eye on the dollar bill, they have been working towards this vision long before Trump and Musk. If you just figured this out now you are about 2500 years too late.
 

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AI Tech is demonic, not Satanic. A demon is tied to the concept of genius. The temptation of AI is the same temptation we had in the garden, a tree of the knowledge of good and evil that is able to make us wise, like God.

I'm not aware of anyone screaming about this, but posting would be more accurate. Yes, many have been posting that these things are the rise of the Beast empire, an empire unlike the others.

As for the chip put into your brain mingling man with computer, that is what Daniel talked about, Nebuchadnezzar's dream, miry clay mingled with iron. There is no cognitive dissonance, the Beast system is rising, the prophecy in Daniel is being fulfilled, we are beholding the Beast rise from the sea.

This is simply every word of the Bible being fulfilled, God telling us the end from the beginning, and God the father being hallowed in His Son.
Yeah. That's what I said so why are you simping for the great orange one. He's the guy who hired the guy who's doing all that stuff you just talked about
 

ZNP

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Yeah. That's what I said so why are you simping for the great orange one. He's the guy who hired the guy who's doing all that stuff you just talked about
Once again you continue to lie.

Simping refers to "excessive devotion" to someone. According to the Bible we are to pray for the president that we may live in peace. I do that. Other than that show me a post of mine that displays excessive devotion towards "the great orange one".

The Bible tells us to submit ourselves to the governing authorities as having come from God. I have repeatedly taken that position that Trump or Biden being president was sovereign of the Lord Jesus. You on the other hand are insulting towards those in authority. To be insulting towards those in authority is to rebel against them and that is prohibited by the New testament. Both Peter and Paul tell us to submit ourselves to human authority. We are also told to give honor to those in authority.

Your posts on this president are not giving him honor, they do not show any respect, instead they are insulting and rebellious. You call being submissive to the word of God, as showing excessive devotion, so you aren't simply insulting Trump, you are insulting and rebelling against the word of God.
 

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The whole Department of Grifty Edgelords (DOGE) and the way they're going about things makes it obvious they aren't being honest. If they were honest, they'd investigate and if they found proof of waste, fraud and corruption they'd present their findings to Congress. That's how it's supposed to work. But the way they're going about it makes it crystal clear that the whole "we have to freeze the funds so we can look for waste, fraud and corruption" is just a ruse. What they're really after is control.
 

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Once again you continue to lie.

Simping refers to "excessive devotion" to someone. According to the Bible we are to pray for the president that we may live in peace. I do that. Other than that show me a post of mine that displays excessive devotion towards "the great orange one".

The Bible tells us to submit ourselves to the governing authorities as having come from God. I have repeatedly taken that position that Trump or Biden being president was sovereign of the Lord Jesus. You on the other hand are insulting towards those in authority. To be insulting towards those in authority is to rebel against them and that is prohibited by the New testament. Both Peter and Paul tell us to submit ourselves to human authority. We are also told to give honor to those in authority.

Your posts on this president are not giving him honor, they do not show any respect, instead they are insulting and rebellious. You call being submissive to the word of God, as showing excessive devotion, so you aren't simply insulting Trump, you are insulting and rebelling against the word of God.
 

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ZNP

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I have no issue with a judge issuing a restraining order to see if their is a violation of citizens rights.

However, at the same time DOGE is uncovering hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud, so anyone attacking them, like yourself, is certainly suspect as trying to run cover for this fraud. I also agree that Trump was elected to "drain the swamp" and that this fraud being exposed and stopped is precisely what he was elected to do.

Now I am not foolish, I realize if we are talking about more than $300 billion in fraudulent spending we are not simply talking about quid pro quo or slush funds, we are talking about treason and they will be desperately trying to stop this investigation by any means possible including telling us it is a violation of our privacy.

You have accused me of simping, that was a lie. Now you accuse me of being MAGA, that also is a lie. Yes, Hillary Clinton should be prosecuted for putting lives at risk and violating the law with her private server. Meanwhile if DOGE is putting Americans privacy at risk then let a judge decide and make the necessary corrections. But one thing is certain, the President has the authority to audit these programs and to fire those who are breaking the law or committing treason.
 

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The whole Department of Grifty Edgelords (DOGE) and the way they're going about things makes it obvious they aren't being honest. If they were honest, they'd investigate and if they found proof of waste, fraud and corruption they'd present their findings to Congress. That's how it's supposed to work. But the way they're going about it makes it crystal clear that the whole "we have to freeze the funds so we can look for waste, fraud and corruption" is just a ruse. What they're really after is control.
This Senator destroys you and your ilk with hard truths:

https://x.com/GlockfordFiles/status/1889433596160815347

And Mr. Musk and DOGE is doing a spectacular job.
That the leftist Christians here support all this fraud waste and abuse of Americans is revolting:

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status...-doge-investigate-federal-government-workers/
 

ZNP

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The whole Department of Grifty Edgelords (DOGE) and the way they're going about things makes it obvious they aren't being honest. If they were honest, they'd investigate and if they found proof of waste, fraud and corruption they'd present their findings to Congress. That's how it's supposed to work. But the way they're going about it makes it crystal clear that the whole "we have to freeze the funds so we can look for waste, fraud and corruption" is just a ruse. What they're really after is control.
You have this backwards. The executive branch can audit and fire agencies and people in the executive branch. They don't need to present their findings to Congress and ask approval. However, Congress does have the right to investigate everything the executive branch does, that is what is known as a system of checks and balances.

So I will make a few corrections to what you said:

The whole department of Grifty Edeglords (the MSM and the Elected representatives having a meltdown over Trump's actions) and the way they are going about things makes it obvious they aren't being honest. If they were honest they would investigate (either the journalists or the houses of congress) and if they found proof of dishonesty on the part of the Executive branch they would make their findings public. That's how it is supposed to work. But the way they're going about it makes it crystal clear that the whole "we will protest and throw a tissy fit" is just a ruse. What they are really after is trying to avoid prison.

You are welcome.
 

ZNP

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Got to admit it is truly very funny that Democrats are now complaining about "co presidents" after four years of trying to quash those claims about Joe Biden before finally admitting he wasn't competent and removing him during the election.

Also I thought Elon Musk makes a very good point. There are obviously a few members of congress who are really gifted at investing. Their salary is not that large for a person living in Washington DC and yet they are able to turn their investments into one of the greatest returns on investments ever. This puts them on par with Warren Buffet. At the very least shouldn't we identify them so they can share their wisdom?