Applying God's Word to Politics
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We can hope for it I suppose but as for me I'm a bit let down with the amount of non Christian's he is surrounding himself with this time around. Things like AI,Crypto currency.Climate change and others concern me also because of the direction he is going in their regards. The point I was meaning is that in Christian forums I notice that Christians always speak of a Christian type government coming out of all this but if Christians would step out of their usual Christian social media circles and examine some of the non Christian MAGA circles the idea they have are quite different than ours.
Doing fine except for a cold and hope you are too.
The books I self-published in 2018 and 2019 were:
The Best Belief: A Logical Argument for the Christian Answer, and
The Christian Creed: Implied by Affirming Jesus as Christ and Lord,
which are Lessons 1 and 2 of my website without the picture illustrations that I found online,
(which did not copy over, although the captions did).
In accordance with MT 10:8, the booklets were free, but then I began putting my life's learning on the website for
anyone to use as a resource and spiritual boost. <truthseekersfellowship.com>
Hope y'all will be blessed by it!
The books I self-published in 2018 and 2019 were:
The Best Belief: A Logical Argument for the Christian Answer, and
The Christian Creed: Implied by Affirming Jesus as Christ and Lord,
which are Lessons 1 and 2 of my website without the picture illustrations that I found online,
(which did not copy over, although the captions did).
In accordance with MT 10:8, the booklets were free, but then I began putting my life's learning on the website for
anyone to use as a resource and spiritual boost. <truthseekersfellowship.com>
Hope y'all will be blessed by it!
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I guess AI and crypto currency are unavoidable, but we must hope MAGA will keep in check those who would use them for evil purposes.
I am confident that Trump does not believe humans contribute much to climate, but hopefully he will employ common sense solutions to various concerns. I thought things were going in a good direction before covid and the communists struck in 2020.
Not sure what you mean by non-Christian MAGA circles.
I am confident that Trump does not believe humans contribute much to climate, but hopefully he will employ common sense solutions to various concerns. I thought things were going in a good direction before covid and the communists struck in 2020.
Not sure what you mean by non-Christian MAGA circles.
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It doesn't seem to me that neither DT(Methodist/Presbyterian background), JD Vance(Christian childhood,shifting to atheist in collage then conversion to Catholic in 2019),Musk (atheist/Agnostic) and the many others other than Paula White,Mike Johnson ect. are going to even look at the futurist view of AI or crypto currency the same way as futurist do. So keeping that creature in it's cage may be a really difficult trick to preform if at all. In Christianity Amil's Preterites and Futurist have debated the subject since Christianity became permissible under Constantine.
As for climate change well the words coming out of their mouths is that it is a hoax but their eyes and hands are looking up at Canada and over to Greenland and down at the Panama Canal as if as the ice melts those places look way better as things warm up to raise cows and plant corn and to control China by claiming a thing China needs. It's beginning to look more like they listened to the scientist and came to the conclusion that the red line had already been crossed years ago and so they decided to say it was a hoax to keep the masses from going Mad Max while they moved to places they knew would survive.
I'm from Texas and so I'm not sure what MAGA looks like where you live but in Texas it's been really interesting for years now with all the hype about the border. There's been times sitting around in the break room eating lunch and watching TV and the mass deportation issue comes up and all the pretty things we say about whose who in the plan all goes out the window. I just sit and listen though because none of them even know I'm of mixed race and it's just way too much fun listening to your fellow co-workers come out of their closets. It's not just in the workplace though the man I get propane from is vocal about it and at times even those at the grocery store. We as Christians I notice have one vision of MAGA but when the others all let their guard down they aren't offering land in Texas and building bases and setting up tents for nothing. They it seems are getting really irritated that we are not going town by town rounding up foreigners and the stuff about the DEI and the few pages on DOGE they see as chicken feed.
As for climate change well the words coming out of their mouths is that it is a hoax but their eyes and hands are looking up at Canada and over to Greenland and down at the Panama Canal as if as the ice melts those places look way better as things warm up to raise cows and plant corn and to control China by claiming a thing China needs. It's beginning to look more like they listened to the scientist and came to the conclusion that the red line had already been crossed years ago and so they decided to say it was a hoax to keep the masses from going Mad Max while they moved to places they knew would survive.
I'm from Texas and so I'm not sure what MAGA looks like where you live but in Texas it's been really interesting for years now with all the hype about the border. There's been times sitting around in the break room eating lunch and watching TV and the mass deportation issue comes up and all the pretty things we say about whose who in the plan all goes out the window. I just sit and listen though because none of them even know I'm of mixed race and it's just way too much fun listening to your fellow co-workers come out of their closets. It's not just in the workplace though the man I get propane from is vocal about it and at times even those at the grocery store. We as Christians I notice have one vision of MAGA but when the others all let their guard down they aren't offering land in Texas and building bases and setting up tents for nothing. They it seems are getting really irritated that we are not going town by town rounding up foreigners and the stuff about the DEI and the few pages on DOGE they see as chicken feed.
Yes, keeping the beast in its cage will prove to be impossible at the end, but who is the one keeping the man of lawlessness from being revealed? (2THS 2:3) Trump?
Trump is looking at Canada and Greenland, because as the ice melts it becomes more possible for Russia and China to approach US from the north.
I am a fellow Texan (and member of the human race :^)
Trump is looking at Canada and Greenland, because as the ice melts it becomes more possible for Russia and China to approach US from the north.
I am a fellow Texan (and member of the human race :^)
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Yes I remember us discussing our locations back several pages when I said I moved from Austin to the Big Thicket and thought you were witnessing the same? In Austin or I imagine in the other large cities I notice it to be in the more trusted circles of conversations. Anyway I was meaning in the not sure what it looks like where you live part meaning in Texas but maybe worded it incorrectly,lol
Good question.
I would say Massachusetts has a great model which if applied nationwide it would be great if tweaked further to allow for more weapons as I know that’s your favorite toys, not just for you but for millions of others.
1. Free healthcare and education .
You need these because you’re investing in your citizens so you want them healthy and educated.
Most modern nations already have this.
2. Have very strong protected borders .
Very simple. The country is not a revolving door so you need to make sure that people in your “house” are nice and safe.
For example Canada already beats USA in terms of requirements for their legal immigrants.
3. Strong military.
This is linked to the point above.
You can’t protect your nation with an army of ghosts.
4. Relaxed gun laws because boys want their toys.
I want nothing to do with them, but you can have them.
I’d say you can build more ideas off these main pillars.
I would say Massachusetts has a great model which if applied nationwide it would be great if tweaked further to allow for more weapons as I know that’s your favorite toys, not just for you but for millions of others.
1. Free healthcare and education .
You need these because you’re investing in your citizens so you want them healthy and educated.
Most modern nations already have this.
2. Have very strong protected borders .
Very simple. The country is not a revolving door so you need to make sure that people in your “house” are nice and safe.
For example Canada already beats USA in terms of requirements for their legal immigrants.
3. Strong military.
This is linked to the point above.
You can’t protect your nation with an army of ghosts.
4. Relaxed gun laws because boys want their toys.
I want nothing to do with them, but you can have them.
I’d say you can build more ideas off these main pillars.
Hi, Eli1. It seems to me that the whole Bible is largely about politics (How people should behave in society).
I agree with you that we cannot legislate and enforce that citizens believe, particular things, including the Bill of Righrs. But political actors are authorised by God to enforce behaviours. Individuals, even Christians, are free to refuse to practise those government enforced behaviours, and to protest and work for changes to mandated behaviour, and to lobby for and work towards more godly laws that mandate beneficial behaviours and prohibit damaging behaviours.
I agree with you that we cannot legislate and enforce that citizens believe, particular things, including the Bill of Righrs. But political actors are authorised by God to enforce behaviours. Individuals, even Christians, are free to refuse to practise those government enforced behaviours, and to protest and work for changes to mandated behaviour, and to lobby for and work towards more godly laws that mandate beneficial behaviours and prohibit damaging behaviours.
Good morning Paul.
It's okay you've missed a lot of pages about this topic so i don't want to repeat myself but i like your point of view and your comments.
I've said multiple times that you'd be the life of a party.
I first detected your unique personality when i said that 'when we observe light we can see back in time' and your response was 'if i turn off my lights or if i live in a cave, nobody can see me'.
I knew that you were the best at parties, when i read that.
It's okay you've missed a lot of pages about this topic so i don't want to repeat myself but i like your point of view and your comments.
I've said multiple times that you'd be the life of a party.
I first detected your unique personality when i said that 'when we observe light we can see back in time' and your response was 'if i turn off my lights or if i live in a cave, nobody can see me'.
I knew that you were the best at parties, when i read that.
Good question.
I would say Massachusetts has a great model which if applied nationwide it would be great if tweaked further to allow for more weapons as I know that’s your favorite toys, not just for you but for millions of others.
1. Free healthcare and education .
You need these because you’re investing in your citizens so you want them healthy and educated.
Most modern nations already have this.
2. Have very strong protected borders .
Very simple. The country is not a revolving door so you need to make sure that people in your “house” are nice and safe.
For example Canada already beats USA in terms of requirements for their legal immigrants.
3. Strong military.
This is linked to the point above.
You can’t protect your nation with an army of ghosts.
4. Relaxed gun laws because boys want their toys.
I want nothing to do with them, but you can have them.
I’d say you can build more ideas off these main pillars.
I would say Massachusetts has a great model which if applied nationwide it would be great if tweaked further to allow for more weapons as I know that’s your favorite toys, not just for you but for millions of others.
1. Free healthcare and education .
You need these because you’re investing in your citizens so you want them healthy and educated.
Most modern nations already have this.
2. Have very strong protected borders .
Very simple. The country is not a revolving door so you need to make sure that people in your “house” are nice and safe.
For example Canada already beats USA in terms of requirements for their legal immigrants.
3. Strong military.
This is linked to the point above.
You can’t protect your nation with an army of ghosts.
4. Relaxed gun laws because boys want their toys.
I want nothing to do with them, but you can have them.
I’d say you can build more ideas off these main pillars.
The reason NATO nations can afford free healthcare and education is because the U.S. taxpayers have been paying for their protection, but we will see what happens if Trump makes them pay 5% for weapons.
Protecting borders requires a military and weapons.
I have little to do with weapons, but I appreciate their necessity and own some guns mainly symbolically since I would hate to need to shoot even animals for survival although I like eating meat.
When I discussed this issue previously, Bush II was prez, and the Dems could still claim to be for the lower classes with a straight face, but by now MAGA has a better claim to that fame.
I am interested to hear details about the MASS model to compare with CA & TX.
Hey bro, you wanted my opinion?
I gave you my opinion!
We both know that you don't yield so why do you want to have a discussion with anybody if you don't want to yield?
Because apparently you don't know that even in Cuba they have free healthcare.
So, be a Republican.
I gave you my opinion!
We both know that you don't yield so why do you want to have a discussion with anybody if you don't want to yield?
Because apparently you don't know that even in Cuba they have free healthcare.
So, be a Republican.
And now you know that I yield probably more than you do.
I know that Cuba's healthcare costs freedom and prosperity, which is why folks like Rubio's family escaped.
(Isn't that also why your family escaped Albania :^)
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So Paul, what do you think is the political golden mean between communism (nobody owns anything except for the rulers) and unrestricted (the monopolists own/rule almost everything) capitalism?
[I just described a full circle rather than a linear continuum.]
I think the Dems went left past JFK toward fascism ala Mussolini, and now
MAGA is getting pretty close to what might be called "caring capitalism".
[I just described a full circle rather than a linear continuum.]
I think the Dems went left past JFK toward fascism ala Mussolini, and now
MAGA is getting pretty close to what might be called "caring capitalism".
These are just my evolving thoughts. I'm just thinking out loud here.
I also see the political "spectrum" as a circle. one second left of 12:00 we would have authoritarian poor gaining complete control of property and lording it over the entrepreneurs; and one second to the right of 12:00 we have authoritarian entrepreneurs gaining complete control of property and lording it over the poor. It only takes a small step left or right for authoritarians to change their attitude to personal property ownership and the political system to flip from pure communism to pure fascism, or vice versa.
At 6:00 we have systems that are opposed to absolute authoritarianism, so afford maximum freedoms: a no-personal-property-leaning absolute anarchy left of 6:00, and a personal-property-ownership-leaning absolute anarchy right of 6:00. At 3:00 we try to strike a balance between personal property ownership and individual freedom limited by a government composed of a mix of well-respected entrepreneurs and well-respected waged workers. At 9:00 we strike a balance between communal property ownership and individual freedoms, this balance being negotiated and legislated a government composed of representatives from well-respected commune members and well-respected private business owners and waged workers.
Either 9:00 or 3:00 would seem the more stable options. 9:00 may actually be a more Christian system, involving more small communal units, than 3:00, which may be overly individualistic.
I also see the political "spectrum" as a circle. one second left of 12:00 we would have authoritarian poor gaining complete control of property and lording it over the entrepreneurs; and one second to the right of 12:00 we have authoritarian entrepreneurs gaining complete control of property and lording it over the poor. It only takes a small step left or right for authoritarians to change their attitude to personal property ownership and the political system to flip from pure communism to pure fascism, or vice versa.
At 6:00 we have systems that are opposed to absolute authoritarianism, so afford maximum freedoms: a no-personal-property-leaning absolute anarchy left of 6:00, and a personal-property-ownership-leaning absolute anarchy right of 6:00. At 3:00 we try to strike a balance between personal property ownership and individual freedom limited by a government composed of a mix of well-respected entrepreneurs and well-respected waged workers. At 9:00 we strike a balance between communal property ownership and individual freedoms, this balance being negotiated and legislated a government composed of representatives from well-respected commune members and well-respected private business owners and waged workers.
Either 9:00 or 3:00 would seem the more stable options. 9:00 may actually be a more Christian system, involving more small communal units, than 3:00, which may be overly individualistic.