Applying God's Word to Politics

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Aaron56

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Okay it's the first time I've ever heard of regional marks of the beast but I take it that you see the final one that encompasses the whole earth to be future tense of the time Paul wrote Romans 13 and so do you see it as not yet fulfilled?
What hasn’t been fulfilled? The global market of the beast?
 

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What hasn’t been fulfilled? The global market of the beast?
Amils are like a box of chocolates you never know what you'll get, you ask them what they think a scripture means and every last one gives a different answer,lol
 

Aaron56

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Amils are like a box of chocolates you never know what you'll get, you ask them what they think a scripture means and every last one gives a different answer,lol
Sorry. Just trying to understand your question. I also meant "mark" not market. My bad.

PS I'm 51. :cool:
 

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Sorry. Just trying to understand your question. I also meant "mark" not market. My bad.

PS I'm 51. :cool:

I don't know of any Christian who sees Revelation 13's mark fulfilled other than Preterite or some Amil's do you believe Rev. 13's mark was fulfilled in ad70? It doesn't actually mater though anymore because in post 890 I was referring to how eschatological views could play a part in how Christians might view issues like AI,rfid's ect. when you responded.
 

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I don't know of any Christian who sees Revelation 13's mark fulfilled other than Preterite or some Amil's do you believe Rev. 13's mark was fulfilled in ad70? It doesn't actually mater though anymore because in post 890 I was referring to how eschatological views could play a part in how Christians might view issues like AI,rfid's ect. when you responded.
No. The mark of the Beast is yet to come.
 

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No. The mark of the Beast is yet to come.

Thank you then would you be concerned if a president of the US was giving federal money to someone like Sam Altman to market the ORB and set it up with worldcoin to establish digital online identities?
 

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Hmm well I'm not sure how you got all this from me not hating Trump but maybe I should expand on that a little more. To me all the left, right Democrat Republican mess is nothing more than a movie they are showing us and the shows called "live from Washington it's Saturday night". Now when I was younger I fell for it all but when I was about thirty or so I began to really watch them and realized they had already decided what they were going to do and were playing out the debate to break it to us. In fact I don't believe Trump even believes climate change is a hoax.
Instead he says it is because he knows you cant stop it and if they tell the masses then they wont be able to get their own families up north to Canada and Greenland before it gets so bad nothing can live down south. They know they cant shut up the scientist so they created the debate/hoax between the Democrats and Republicans and their supporters to so they would just keep on working while they prepare for whats coming.
First it was the movie about the southern border and migrants until everyone agreed we needed troops there to keep them out.
Then now their showing us the movie about Canada becoming the 51st state and not ruling out troops in Greenland because at some point in time they are going to take it from them. If people actually listened to the words Trump said and made good grades in history class some of it would make a lot more sense. Ive already given examples of phrases he's used to see if anyone would catch it, one was "manifest destiny" which in American history was when Polk(POTUS) expanded the US by annexing Texas and California,Oregon ect. another term is the "Monroe doctrine" which is when Monroe(POTUS) warned Europe of meddling in the western hemispheres affairs. Which is why he is breaking all ties between WHO,Paris, threatening leaving NATO,the EU ect.
The climate has always changed, and science indicates that human activity contributes very little to global warming, which warming might be beneficial except for those who live next to the oceans.

The Dems do not agree on keeping migrants from entering the U.S. illegally.

If you do not understand Trump's strategy regarding foreign policy, I encourage you to read The Art of the Deal. (I haven't read it, because I already get it :^)

Having read my "How We Got Here", I trust you now realize how close we came to being subjugated by the Marxists--and the threat of such spiritual climate change or global tyranny has not ended.
 

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GWH

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Did anyone see Lance Wallnau on RAV this morning in which he shared a clip of Jesse Watters calling the health issue a spiritual issue, and he pointed out that that ZEPH 2:4-7 seems to prophesy what is happening in Gaza?
 

GWH

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Did anyone see Lance Wallnau on RAV this morning in which he shared a clip of Jesse Watters calling the health issue a spiritual issue, and he pointed out that that ZEPH 2:4-7 seems to prophesy what is happening in Gaza?
Am I the only one impressed by Zeph saying:

"Gaza will be abandoned and Ashkelon left in ruins.
At midday Ashdod will be emptied and Ekron uprooted.
Woe to you who live by the sea, O Kerethite people;
The word of the Lord is against you, O Canaan, land of the Philistines.
"I will destroy you, and none will be left."

The land by the sea, where the Kerethites dwell,
Will be a place for shepherds and sheep pens.
It will belong to the remnant of the house of Judah;
There they will find pasture.
In the evening they will lie down in the houses of Ashkelon.
The Lord their God will care for them; he will restore their fortunes.
 

GWH

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Did anyone see RFK on Lara Ingram's show a few minutes ago?
He said that the best way to overcome addiction in his experience as a recovering addict is by having a spiritual realignment and connection with community.
After getting confirmed by the Senate, he also said he prayed for many years to have the opportunity to help make America great again.
 
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From the OP/first post and Acts 5:39 the thought is to assume that all of MAGA is a Christian movement when that's only one of the many groups of voters Trump approached as supporters. In the Christian forums Trump supporters tend to see the MAGA movement as if an Christian type theocracy is on the rise. Then there's people like Musk who is also a Trump supporter who are atheist/agnostic or V.R. and Oz who are Hindu and so have no vision of a Christian theocracy. Then there are militia groups and every other group who have attached themselves to Trump down to even young voters who voted for the same ones where they work just because every one around them was and they wanted to fit in. Trump has supporters who are Jewish and others who are Muslim and supporters who are from big businesses who have no vision about a Christian theocracy spawning out of MAGA. The point I'm trying to make is that in the big picture the Christian supporters, and I am Christian mine own self are only just a certain number of the supporters Trump has gathered into MAGA and were only going to get one slice of the whole pie. In Christian groups we see this through Christian eyes but the vast amount of others have their eyes on plans that are different from ours.
I just noticed this post and wanted to say that I think your analysis is accurate. We can hope that our Christian influence in the MAGA movement will continue to salt and enlighten our society and government.
 
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Glad you mentioned a portion of pie-in-the-sky was evident intially
A number of the cabinet, dependant to the President of the homosexual wing too. No faulting you there for keeping abreast of all contributing factors. As far as where would PDJT wind up if forced to choose a prominent arm of religion? I think he would remain true to form and would shock them all again and brazenly hold the Bible up like the in the first inauguration on the Church property. If a tally is out there for a MAGA/Christian presence, I believe it would be a minumum of upper-70%. To codify the rest into the godless fold, his day-to-day demeanor is centered around greatness and common sense and little else if I assume correctly for the remaining direction of the thread? The liklihood of my post was expressed in my last comment in that, the current shape of all related dogmas and doctrine, heck, the scholars themselves turn into vocal pretzels over the likes of Rom 13. Like you, I myself will always link the lack, wherever it may surface to 'shame' of Christ.
Not sure that PDJT has gone beyond theism to affirm Christian faith, but many of his appointees do.
His policy is centered around MAGA, common sense and moral conscience informed by biblical values.
RM 13:1-7 & ACTS 5:27-42 serve as Scriptural context for this thread.
 

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Not sure that PDJT has gone beyond theism to affirm Christian faith, but many of his appointees do.
His policy is centered around MAGA, common sense and moral conscience informed by biblical values.
RM 13:1-7 & ACTS 5:27-42 serve as Scriptural context for this thread.
Thanks for the clarify, and what sounds as the invitation for open insertions of all text that may apply! One that came to mind as I reviewed was Paul's whisker-close retort:

Then Paul said to him, “God will strike you, you whitewashed wall! (Acts 23:3)

In that light, I think Paul would have served well on protecting our 'innocent until proven guilty' clause.
 

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Sailor, how are you?
I have a question for you.
Have you published any books you said?
Did anybody buy them?
 

PAC-fit

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Sailor, how are you?
I have a question for you.
Have you published any books you said?
Did anybody buy them?
I've got to get over to that site of his. My own fault for not doing so yet.
 

Melach

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Actually, not so fast. It may be that God is fulfilling the prophecy about the Gospel being preached to the world before the end (MT 24:14) by this means. What the Dems intend for evil God will use to do good. (Cf. GN 45:5-8)
it feels like the muslims are the ones who come here to europe with their false gospel and are converting the people. islam will take over europe very soon, one generation and its finish. this is a genocide there is no doubt about it

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