The apostles where not people pleasers.

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Brasspen

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A problem christians have today, is they are people pleasers.
The apostles where not.
The word of God tells us to not fear man, but fear God.

I just found out I am people pleaser, and I am of the gooding type.
 
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keepingthingsreal

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The word of God tells us to not fear man, but fear God.
If I have mastered anything as a Christian (after having God beat the man-pleasing out of me for years), then it is this.
 
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Luk 12:1
In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
Luk 12:2
For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
Luk 12:3
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
Luk 12:4
And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
Luk 12:5
But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
 

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A problem christians have today, is they are people pleasers.
The apostles where not.
The word of God tells us to not fear man, but fear God.

I just found out I am people pleaser, and I am of the gooding type.
Yes, fear God not men. It's for this reason a believer should try to please everyone for the sake of the gospel.

"If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all." Romans 12:18

"For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more." 1 Corinthians 9:19
 

Brasspen

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I went further into the book. I am not only gooding, but avoiding, along with suffering.

Now about the suffering, this was with my relationship with God. I was hurting myself really bad. I was trying to get God to do something for me. But he would not, then I read Natalie's book. And got to the suffering part.

You cannot tempt God. And I know that already. This is what I was actually doing. Not only was I trying to tempt God, but, I already have he's answer to those things. He has told me what I am going to get to have. I also know what will happen to my enemies.
 

GWH

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A problem christians have today, is they are people pleasers.
The apostles where not.
The word of God tells us to not fear man, but fear God.

I just found out I am people pleaser, and I am of the gooding type.
Paul said, "I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good
but the good of many, so that they may be saved. Follow my example,
as I follow the example of Christ." (1CR 10:33-11:1, TOP #102)
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Paul said, "I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good
but the good of many, so that they may be saved. Follow my example,
as I follow the example of Christ." (1CR 10:33-11:1, TOP #102)

That just means we are to please people the way Jesus did. And Jesus never did that by giving in and agreeing to their sinful ways or sinful beliefs. Just look at how He was with the the Pharisees and Sadducees. He didn't please them at all by speaking the truth, but the truth was for their own good. They just didn't want to accept it.

Look further into how Jesus led in this example of "pleasing everyone in every way."


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GWH

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That just means we are to please people the way Jesus did. And Jesus never did that by giving in and agreeing to their sinful ways or sinful beliefs. Just look at how He was with the the Pharisees and Sadducees. He didn't please them at all by speaking the truth, but the truth was for their own good. They just didn't want to accept it.

Look further into how Jesus led in this example of "pleasing everyone in every way."


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Yes. What did you mean by saying "Look further into how Jesus led in this example of "pleasing everyone in every way."?
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Yes. What did you mean by saying "Look further into how Jesus led in this example of "pleasing everyone in every way."?

Simply just to study more about how Jesus pleased people from which Paul took his example.

Jesus actually got a lot of people angry, so in what way did He please people?


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keepingthingsreal

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Gal 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
 

GWH

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Simply just to study more about how Jesus pleased people from which Paul took his example.

Jesus actually got a lot of people angry, so in what way did He please people?


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Oh, well, okay, let us see:

In MT 3:15-17 we see Jesus pleasing God by being baptized.
In MT 4:1-11 we see that Jesus did NOT please the devil.
In MT 4:23-25 Jesus pleased the people by healing their diseases.
In MT 5:17 we can infer that Jesus pleased the Pharisees by saying that he did not come to abolish the law,
(although v.20 must have given them concern :^).
In MT 8:34 Jesus displeased an entire town by drowning their pigs.
In MT 9:11&14 Jesus displeased the Pharisees by associating with sinners and the disciples of John by not making his own disciples fast.
In MT 9:35 we see that Jesus continued to please the crowds because he healed their diseases.
In MT 11:20 Jesus showed displeasure with the obstinacy of folks in three towns.
In MT 12:2&14 the Pharisees were so displeased with Jesus for breaking Sabbath laws that they began plotting how to kill him.
In MT 12:38-39 the Jewish leaders could not have been pleased when Jesus called them a wicked and adulterous generation.
In MT 13:53-58 the people of Nazareth and Jesus manifested mutual displeasure.
In MT 14:20 the 5,000 were pleased after being fed fish and bread.
In MT 15:37 this pleasure was reprised with the 4,000.
In MT 16:17 Jesus was pleased with Peter for believing that he was the Messiah and Son of God.
In MT 16:23 Jesus was displeased with Peter for disagreeing with the need for his atonement.
In MT 17:5 God revealed being pleased with His Son, whom He loves.
In MT 17:17-20 Jesus voiced displeasure with perverse disciples who had little faith.
In MT 19:14 Jesus indicated being pleased with little children.
In MT 21:12-13 Jesus showed displeasure with those who were profiting off of those coming to the temple.
In MT 21:18-19 Jesus was displeased by a fruitless fig tree.
In MT 22:18 Jesus expressed displeasure with the Pharisees for being hypocrites.
In MT 22:29 Jesus indicated displeasure with the Sadducees for not knowing Scripture and God's power to resurrect souls.
In MT 23 Jesus condemned both the Pharisees and the Sadducees for being hypocrites, blind guides and the devil's brood.
In MT 24 Jesus commended the faithful and wise servants who do God's will until the end.
In MT 25 Jesus illustrated in parables God's pleasure with faithful servants who qualify for eternal life.
In MT 26:24 Jesus was displeased with Judas because of his betrayal.
In MT 26:38-42 the prayer of Jesus manifested conflict between displeasure by his human nature at the prospect of suffering death and pleasure by his divine nature for obeying the will of his heavenly Father.
In MT 27:20&25 the chief priests and elders persuaded the crowd to express displeasure with Jesus.
In MT 27:44 the two rebels being crucified with Jesus also insulted him.
In MT 28:19-20 Jesus indicated that he will be pleased with disciples who witness for the Gospel.
 

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billy graham is the last man to teach this lesson. he was sucking up to everyone and everybody. including false religions. he was all about that ecumenical apostasy.
 
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I disagree. Billy graham was following what the bible says in 1 Corinthians 9:22
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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billy graham is the last man to teach this lesson. he was sucking up to everyone and everybody. including false religions. he was all about that ecumenical apostasy.

He was a softy when he became super old - and some ungodly people took advantage of that. I don't think he ever forsaken God though.


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Paul said, "I try to please everyone in every way. For I am not seeking my own good
but the good of many, so that they may be saved. Follow my example,
as I follow the example of Christ." (1CR 10:33-11:1, TOP #102)
We should not please men by compromising the Gospel message and truth.

However, we are called to be servants, and yes in that way we seek to please and seek the good of others not self.

I really think it is important to define what is in view, there are always details to be considered.
 
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A problem christians have today, is they are people pleasers.
The apostles where not.
The word of God tells us to not fear man, but fear God.

I just found out I am people pleaser, and I am of the gooding type.
Was also and am still working on learning the new in the done work of Son for us all to be new and love all in truth (1 Cor 13:4-7) which Father imputes those verses in each of us to see and grow up in humility
Yet, I needed to get over myself and leave that as dead, stand in beleif to see and grow up as called to do that in hebrews 5:12-6:3
I believe the word "if" in Hebrews 6:3 should be "Since" As from the Greek translation can mean either since or if, in english
God did it, I believe it and see Love and mercy over and above anymore sacrifices