About men stealing women!

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seoulsearch

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I probably shouldn't post in this thread but I'm feeling a need to anyway...

Brasspen, as a woman, I am trying to get the facts straight about what you are presenting in your threads. If I'm getting things wrong, feel free to correct me.

So some of the information you've shared is:

1. You have 2 children, would like more, but you also have a child from an adulterous relationship that you say is not your fault. It seems that you've said the husband somehow gave you permission, and that somehow made it excusable? As you have said you shouldn't be judged for this?

2. You have some health issues that sound serious, and I'm guessing that if you were to marry, your wife would also become your caretaker? If not now, then in the not-too-far-off future?

3. You somehow want to prevent other men from "stealing" the women you're interested in, as you think this is the reason you're single?

4. You have a family who has cursed you and believe that's why you're not seeing the success you think you should have?

Now I haven't read each and every post word to word (I apologize, as I just haven't had the time,) but I'm not sure why you think men are always "stealing" away "your" women.

If I were a woman talking to a man who is unrepentant over adultery, has a child who may very well come back into his past from that relationship (you never know when he might take a DNA test and find out the man raising him isn't his father,) needs a caretaker almost right off the bat, has 2 children (would you be taking them with you into the new marriage, or does the mother have custody?) from a past relationship (I assume your ex is still in the picture as well? Do you get along or is there a lot of drama there, too?), and has a family that likes throwing out curses right and left...

That's A LOT for ANYONE in a potential dating situation to unpack. Now of course, we ALL have baggage, we ALL have problems and various health concerns, but I think anyone, man or woman, would find that situation intimidating right off the bat. I don't think you can expect anyone to gleefully jump into that situation, wedding bells ringing, without A LOT of serious prayer, pastoral counsel, and consideration.

Speaking as a woman, I can honestly tell you that the thing I find most troubling is that you seem to see nothing (especially the adultery) as your fault. Now of course, as Christians, we are forgiven, but I'd be concerned about whether someone with that attitude takes on and handles responsibility for his actions -- or anything else.

In other words... Sure, maybe there are some cases in which men have "stolen" "your" women "from you." I'm a woman and have had many times (including my once-husband) choose another woman besides me. But it seems as if you've never considered the fact that any woman who dates you would have A LOT to process and take on, and that might be too intimidating for a good number of women (or men, if this were reversed.)

All a man would have to do to "steal" a woman away from you is to own up to his past sins, take full responsibility for them, show that he is working on further building his relationship with Christ by working on the challenges in his life (making healthy lifestyle choices, showing repentant sorrow for past sins, working on the challenges in his life to the best of his abilities rather than seeing them as other's faults,) and I think that would be what most women would choose (and men, again, if the situation was reversed.)

I am truly surprised that it seems you've never considered that maybe, just maybe, your own attitude is what's driven at least some of the women you've been interested in away, rather than other men flat-out "stealing" them from you? And if you have, just point me to the posts in which you do so, because I surely want to read them.

Because otherwise, what are you offering these women besides a very long list of why everything isn't your fault?

I'm truly sorry for the suffering you've been through, especially from your own family. But it sounds as if you've always seen most everything bad in your life as being caused by someone else, and have taken up the life philosophy that your life is completely controlled by others -- without putting the necessary work into taking charge of the things you COULD change -- or at the very least, work on.
 
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keepingthingsreal

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I have been contemplating leaving this site for a while, and I did not want to leave without at least saying good-bye. I picked this thread because I figured that at least one person here might be happy to see me disappear.

Whatever the case may be, I wish all of you the best.

@RoboOp
@Oncefallen

Please deactivate my account.

Thank you.
 

Brasspen

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Like, 6 months? I don' trust her to stick with me. Nobody has ever stuck with me. Not even for an hour. And, 6 months.
Impossible to happen. she is like, waiting 6 months so the the higher bidder makes an offer.

I only had 1 faithful girl, that was my first. The pregnant one with the boy.
 
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My decision has nothing to do with you.

I wish you nothing but the best.
But why quit, just don't use it for some time. You may want come back later.

OK, for a moment I am thinking. I have like, calmed down.

The girlfriend who got pregant. There was only one girlfriend after her. When I was 20. What she did to me, was gave her self to everyone. Everyone knows her, I mean everyone. She even provided proof of it one night.

So what happened to me, I came down with schizophrenia. Then, I crashed burned. I never tried to get anyone. There had been times though, when opportunities came, but someone always took them from me. I rarely had any sexual encounters. I was, trashed.
My health kept getting worse and worse, I even almost died because of it. My vitamins where running out. Every vitamin you can list was gone.

I took multi-vitamins for 1 year, then, right after my parents died, my health came up. I still need vitamins, multi-vitamin, and b6. b-complex.
 
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But why quit, just don't use it for some time. You may want come back later.

OK, for a moment I am thinking. I have like, calmed down.

The girlfriend who got pregant. There was only one girlfriend after her. When I was 20. What she did to me, was gave her self to everyone. Everyone knows her, I mean everyone. She even provided proof of it one night.

So what happened to me, I came down with schizophrenia. Then, I crashed burned. I never tried to get anyone. There had been times though, when opportunities came, but someone always took them from me. I rarely had any sexual encounters. I was, trashed.
My health kept getting worse and worse, I even almost died because of it. My vitamins where running out. Every vitamin you can list was gone.

I took multi-vitamins for 1 year, then, right after my parents died, my health came up. I still need vitamins, multi-vitamin, and b6. b-complex.
I'm sorry you went through all that, Brasspen. Schizophrenia is an incredibly debilitating disease that is very misunderstood. It wreaks havoc on the person mentally, emotionally, and physically. I'm glad that you have found medicine and vitamins that are helping!

Regarding the things that you are wanting, like a wife and a pastorship, etc..... I am telling you through discernment that you are not ready for those things right now. I pray that someday you will be. But right now you'd best focus on your growth in Christ. In the past you have posted some things that indicated that you were indeed growing, and I really hope that continues. Please keep your heart humble and open to Godly correction, it's so important!

All the best!

P. S. I had always wanted to get married and have kids. It was like a painful ache in my heart. Eventually I had enough of the pain and asked Jesus to fill the emptiness. I asked Him to be everything to me so that even if I never married or had kids, I would be OK with just Him. He answered that prayer almost immediately. I still hope to get married, but I know I'll be OK if I don't.

I'm almost 42 now, so having kids is very unlikely. But that's ok. His grace is enough. And He has blessed me in so many other ways, I would be foolish to complain.

I hope you can find a similar peace to what I have experienced. I will pray for that! 🙏
 

Genipher

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Hi Brasspen!

You have also mentioned wanting to be a pastor and a prophet. Those are good things to want. However, they both come with a HUGE amount of responsibility and accountability.
He says it's okay for men to have concubines and is justifying adultery and wants to be a pastor?!? 😮
 
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You can still kids, but you can't wait.
I can wait, and I WILL wait, because my life is submitted to Christ.

I would like to marry, but I will only do so if I feel certain that God has brought the right man into my life. To marry for any other reason would be foolish (at least in my case, I am not judging those who marry for other reasons).

I realize this might mean I will not have biological children. I'm OK with that. Once I gave up my desires to The Lord, He revealed to me that one reason I have always wanted kids is because I am called to youth ministry. Now I have 50 "spiritual kids" that I pray for and care about very much. I feel very blessed and I don't worry so much about what I don't have, because I am focused on what I DO have. They are a delightful handful, lol 😆.
 

Lynx

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And Now I am going to tell you. LEAVE ME ALONE, STOP TALKING TO ME.
GET OUT OF MY THREAD.
That's not how a forum works. You can't dictate who posts in your thread.

You get used to it after a while though. There are some posts I don't even bother scanning anymore, much less reading every word, because I know there's nothing for me in them.
 
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#94
yes I am sorry about it. Then he said he wanted deleted account after that. So I am sorry for it.
 
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So yeah, I am back on rejcting your 6 months tradition again. I am also rejected you telling me to wait.
I am sexually activated and have to put my hand on my thing to deal with it.
Your telling me to just keep doing that and wait before starting.
Then your telling me to do that while dating, just to have her break it off after 6 whole months. Staring over, and again, she breaks it off. The whole time all that happens I have my hand on my shaft.

The world don't wait, because they know this thing. Even if their relationships fail, they at least can get what they have to have.
 
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I have explained to you all these severe problems that your tradition causes, but you will not let go of it. I think it's rejected by you because it has made you rich, at the expense of some poor people like me.

Keep in mind the word of God said there is no respecter among persons with God.
 
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#98
So, I don't know what could be done instead of that tradition, but I do know something else needs to be done.
 
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#99
I think whats needed, is for all the churches to have a meeting, and brain storm ideas. A better much better idea might be found.
 

Genipher

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So yeah, I am back on rejcting your 6 months tradition again. I am also rejected you telling me to wait.
I am sexually activated and have to put my hand on my thing to deal with it.
Your telling me to just keep doing that and wait before starting.
Then your telling me to do that while dating, just to have her break it off after 6 whole months. Staring over, and again, she breaks it off. The whole time all that happens I have my hand on my shaft.

The world don't wait, because they know this thing. Even if their relationships fail, they at least can get what they have to have.
Nobody here is telling you to debase yourself and dishonor Yahweh by masterbating. Most everybody struggles with the temptation of sexual sin. Not everyone acts on that temptation. The fact that you justify it because you're not married speaks more about your character and walk with Christ than you might imagine.

What we're telling you is to be patient and wait on God's timing. To focus on Him and work on yourself so you'll be ready for a bride. But i could see how a woman would be put offby all your excuses and the way you blame everyone else for your shortcomings. Sounds like you need to get right with God and be content where you're at in life.