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Believer08
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What all can we be wrong or have a misunderstanding or disagreement on and still be considered saved?
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It's more a matter of what we must believe, not what we do not. The list of possible disagreements is nearly as long as the Bible!
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Believer08
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I appreciate your response. And I agree what matters is what we must believe. The reason I ask is I don’t want to believe in anything that would cause my or anyone else to be lost. There are different views on so many things.
Understand then that most beliefs under the umbrella of Christianity are secondary; differences won’t affect your salvation or anyone else’s.
I won’t articulate them, but I propose that the number of non-negotiable issues doesn’t exceed ten.
What will endanger another person’s salvation is taking a dogmatic stance on a secondary issue, or being unreasonable (rude) in your expression of a primary issue.
For me, personally... if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as lord and savior , the rest is just noise.
I include Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Coptics in the same boat.. I don't really ascribe to denominations... Only if you are a follower of Christ.
I include Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Coptics in the same boat.. I don't really ascribe to denominations... Only if you are a follower of Christ.
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Believer08
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What about if someone is wrong on marriage, divorce and remarriage, the end times, the Godhead, etc etc?
Stick to the simple gospel. It's good that you take things of God seriously. If you are unsure about a subject, you don't have to comment. It's OK to say, "I don't know". I've been saved a long time and I've had time to study a lot of things that some consider controversial.
Many times my studies were a result of questioning what a preacher had to say. One pastor I had saw himself as the head of the church I attended. It did not sit right with me, so I looked at the role of pastor in the Bible. The first thing that struck me was just how little was said about it. It was also clear that a pastor is not some kind of dictator.
We need to study the Bible as a whole. For example, many believe that we must be baptised in water to be saved. This appears to be true if you take a verse or two and make a doctrine out of it. If you read the rest of God's word, you find that baptism is important as a step of obedience, but does not save you. Ask God for the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation. He will show you the truth. God is far more interested in revealing Himself than we are in knowing Him. Getting to know God takes time and diligence. But it's worth what ever it takes.
The Godhead is a vital doctrine. Even then, it can be a process. My brother in law was a Jehovah's Witness. He struggled to believe that Jesus is God, even after he was saved. When he threw out all the JW books he had, his mind became clear and he could see that Jesus is God.
Female preachers and teachers
More than one baptism
Losing ones salvation
Pastoral duties
End time events
The rapture
Spiritual gifts. Just to name a few.
The below is what I see from God to us all, and I am thankful, I can't do what is done, God did it. wow, woe is me Isaiah 6:1-7
No flesh can please God after Son took away all sin first in himself for us the people. There is now no way any other flesh can please God perfect ever as is done by Son first.
The gentiles have been given new life without any works, yet they see the first chosen could not be perfect either. Have gone over their and meddled into there, and said you can't do it, but I can and have ripped off their ragged clothes of works to get in and put them on over their cleansed clothing God gave them in risen Son for them without works of self ever.
What a hypocrisy to me anyways
I am nothing, God is everything and did what was needed for me and all to have new life in his risen Son's risen life as a gift to love all over the few that flesh nature will only love those that love them back. How can I call me a Believer in the risen Son if I do not love all as God does. That, to do that is a gift from God to have gotten imputed into you by God alone, the only one good, thank you
I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit
and born of the virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to hell.
The third day he rose again from the dead.
He ascended to heaven
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty.
From there he will come to judge the living and the dead.
Again, to me the rest is noise and I have better things to worry about it.
yes, start from God just loves you, and then see new in you being willing and seeing God only wants in truth what is best for you too
Throughout scripture, I see a gigantic Love story from day one in that first "unbelief" Adam the first did
then the Second Adam, that did not fail in any unbelief to Father, the only perfect flesh to ever walk this earth for us all the people.
Therefore, I, you or anyone else to me have no righteousness none of self ever, before or after belief to risen Son that Father reveals to his kids, and does to all reveals it all in proper timing to each is what I see, when I see others get and others not yet. I stand in belief God knows what God is doing and has done for us by Son to us all what is needed (John 19:30, Hebrews 9:14-17)
However, in Belief (not of works) we are saved by Father and Son as Won we get anointed in belief to the risen Son and get to have conversations with Father and Father reveals truth of scripture and we, at least me love all over the few I only loved in the first born flesh I was in prior to seeing truth God loves us all y'all
Thanking Father and Son as won as in Psalm 100:4, 103:13, Ezekiel 36:26