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What in the world?! What does him being vegan have anything to do with the fact that I "wouldn't make a complete lifestyle change for him?" And how much should anyone have to change their lifestyle for anyone, whether vegan or not?!
So your whole premise here is that you keep trying to say that men who chose to eat vegan aren't real men? And then point out that since I didn't decide to rearrange my whole life for this guy (who was a vegan,) this is somehow proof that men who chose veganism are lesser men?!
What kind of ridiculousness have I just walked into?!
Have you ever considered the myriad of other factors that could be going on?! I SHOULD be able to just say, "Hey, I went out with a great vegan guy but it didn't work out, so hey OP, keep praying for a vegan if that's what God has on your heart," and that should be a good enough answer on its own, but apparently it's not.
One of the reasons this guy and I don't think it's going to work is because he is 13 years younger than I am and he might like to have the chance at having a family. I shouldn't have to publicly explain this, but that probably wouldn't be seen as a good enough answer either, but my doctor and I feel I am past the point of having kids, and I would never want to rob a guy of that opportunity. Yes, I know God does miracles, but I have NO interest in the expensive treatments and painful procedures to get pregnant when so many others can do so easily and naturally. Though it does grieve me that, being adopted, I will never have a known biological relative.
But the guys who ask me out have almost all been 10-16 years younger than me, and I'm starting to think I should just tell them my age immediately, because maybe the poor guys feel like they're being catfished in real life.
So maybe HE didn't want to have to rearrange HIS life for ME! After all, that's what relationships are about, compromise -- and giving up the hope of a natural-born child is a compromise I would NEVER ask a guy to make on purpose.
As for a man not being what's in his wallet -- I thoroughly agree. The reason I mentioned that he is successful because I figured that would probably be yet another insult or reason to see him as being "not a real man" -- "A vegan man?! Yeah, he's probably broke and living in his mama's basement." Nope, not this one!
And it's not the wallet I'm after -- I paid for my own dinner, as I regularly do on dates. And if the guy spends the whole time telling me about all the women who've done him wrong, I just pay for the whole thing (this guy didn't do that, which is one of the reasons he was great to talk to.) This man would make a GREAT husband and father for someone, I have no doubt -- vegan and all!!!
I grew up around people who had strong work ethics, were serious about saving, and lived below their means. I'm at an age now where, if someone lives out those qualities for 2 or 3 decades -- yeah, it starts to add up, and they have a little jingle jangle in their pocket. I'm not looking for someone to pay for me. I'm just looking for someone I don't have to pay for, because that's what I did throughout my relationships.
And anytime I fell to the criticism of, "You're too picky; you're a snob; you think you're better than everyone," -- well, that's how I wound up paying for an alcoholic and his family due to addiction and refusal to live as a responsible adult. But my friends at the time told me I "needed to be understanding" and "be a good helpmate like God says."
If possible, I will never cater to those kinds of criticisms ever again, even if I stay single forever.
Believe me, I know what a good man is, though through some trial and error.
When I get in situations over my head (like relationships where I let things slide,) I wind up with wounds dug into my flesh that I myself put there as one of my ways of coping. One man saw them and threw me into a couch, sitting on my shoulders and screaming that he was going to tell the world I was crazy. It's very scary to have someone twice your size sitting on your upper body and screaming in your face even though, all the while, you're telling yourself, "Well it's my own fault. I did something stupid and set him off." Years later, another man saw them, and pretended like the marks -- and me along with it -- didn't exist, thinking he would silently punish me into "acting right."
The best man I know once saw those marks in person, and while he didn't say anything, after I went home, got on his knees and prayed to God in tears, and, believing God was guiding him, wrote me a letter. One of the key things he wrote was, "I don't know how to help you, Seoul. I'm not smart enough in that way, and I don't know about these kinds of things. But I KNOW there are people out there who ARE smart enough to help you, and we are going to find them. We are going to keep looking and we are not going to stop until we find them -- TOGETHER." Something about this SHOOK me to the CORE -- right, left, up, down, and every which way from Sunday. I started crying and couldn't stop... But when I finally did, I never cut again, because I knew GOD was professing His love for me through this man.
And this was from a man who didn't have a penny to his name, literally. Society had dismissed him -- every odd was stacked against him. But unlike so many, he never gave up hope, never fell to despair or addiction, and God saw something in him that He used in the most powerful way -- humility -- and it shook a devil's foothold right out of my soul. (God blessed this man's work ethic as well, and the years of hard work, scrimping and saving when everyone else made fun of him, are now paying off.)
But we have always been just friends, and we both know it might always be that way, so we both move on in life.
You see, sometimes you can know one of the best people you've ever met, and it might check all the boxes, dot all your i's, cross all your t's, and seem so logical that to NOT be together seems to go against all common sense.
But the most crucial thing of all is what GOD says. And for whatever reason, God tells us no, for whatever is His reason -- and sometimes the most important thing isn't to be married or single, but to listen to what God says -- and obey.
I don't know why, but I feel like God has told me the reason we've had such a powerful effect on each other's lives is BECAUSE we HAVEN'T dated, and that if we did (right now, at least,) He would not bless it.
And there is a myriad of other evidence for that, of which I shouldn't have to and won't go into publicly, as it involves our families.
We know God is telling us NO, and we don't fully know why -- but we also know to obey.
And obedience has NOTHING to do with what kind of diet either of us chooses.
(Likewise, if God pointed out a vegan man and said, "That's the one!", you can bet your bottom dollar I would have to investigate.)
So your whole premise here is that you keep trying to say that men who chose to eat vegan aren't real men? And then point out that since I didn't decide to rearrange my whole life for this guy (who was a vegan,) this is somehow proof that men who chose veganism are lesser men?!
What kind of ridiculousness have I just walked into?!
Have you ever considered the myriad of other factors that could be going on?! I SHOULD be able to just say, "Hey, I went out with a great vegan guy but it didn't work out, so hey OP, keep praying for a vegan if that's what God has on your heart," and that should be a good enough answer on its own, but apparently it's not.
One of the reasons this guy and I don't think it's going to work is because he is 13 years younger than I am and he might like to have the chance at having a family. I shouldn't have to publicly explain this, but that probably wouldn't be seen as a good enough answer either, but my doctor and I feel I am past the point of having kids, and I would never want to rob a guy of that opportunity. Yes, I know God does miracles, but I have NO interest in the expensive treatments and painful procedures to get pregnant when so many others can do so easily and naturally. Though it does grieve me that, being adopted, I will never have a known biological relative.
But the guys who ask me out have almost all been 10-16 years younger than me, and I'm starting to think I should just tell them my age immediately, because maybe the poor guys feel like they're being catfished in real life.
So maybe HE didn't want to have to rearrange HIS life for ME!
After all, that's what relationships are about, compromise -- and giving up the hope of a natural-born child is a compromise I would NEVER ask a guy to make on purpose.As for a man not being what's in his wallet -- I thoroughly agree. The reason I mentioned that he is successful because I figured that would probably be yet another insult or reason to see him as being "not a real man" -- "A vegan man?! Yeah, he's probably broke and living in his mama's basement." Nope, not this one!
And it's not the wallet I'm after -- I paid for my own dinner, as I regularly do on dates. And if the guy spends the whole time telling me about all the women who've done him wrong, I just pay for the whole thing (this guy didn't do that, which is one of the reasons he was great to talk to.) This man would make a GREAT husband and father for someone, I have no doubt -- vegan and all!!!
I grew up around people who had strong work ethics, were serious about saving, and lived below their means. I'm at an age now where, if someone lives out those qualities for 2 or 3 decades -- yeah, it starts to add up, and they have a little jingle jangle in their pocket. I'm not looking for someone to pay for me. I'm just looking for someone I don't have to pay for, because that's what I did throughout my relationships.
And anytime I fell to the criticism of, "You're too picky; you're a snob; you think you're better than everyone," -- well, that's how I wound up paying for an alcoholic and his family due to addiction and refusal to live as a responsible adult. But my friends at the time told me I "needed to be understanding" and "be a good helpmate like God says."
If possible, I will never cater to those kinds of criticisms ever again, even if I stay single forever.
Believe me, I know what a good man is, though through some trial and error.
When I get in situations over my head (like relationships where I let things slide,) I wind up with wounds dug into my flesh that I myself put there as one of my ways of coping. One man saw them and threw me into a couch, sitting on my shoulders and screaming that he was going to tell the world I was crazy. It's very scary to have someone twice your size sitting on your upper body and screaming in your face even though, all the while, you're telling yourself, "Well it's my own fault. I did something stupid and set him off." Years later, another man saw them, and pretended like the marks -- and me along with it -- didn't exist, thinking he would silently punish me into "acting right."
The best man I know once saw those marks in person, and while he didn't say anything, after I went home, got on his knees and prayed to God in tears, and, believing God was guiding him, wrote me a letter. One of the key things he wrote was, "I don't know how to help you, Seoul. I'm not smart enough in that way, and I don't know about these kinds of things. But I KNOW there are people out there who ARE smart enough to help you, and we are going to find them. We are going to keep looking and we are not going to stop until we find them -- TOGETHER." Something about this SHOOK me to the CORE -- right, left, up, down, and every which way from Sunday. I started crying and couldn't stop... But when I finally did, I never cut again, because I knew GOD was professing His love for me through this man.
And this was from a man who didn't have a penny to his name, literally. Society had dismissed him -- every odd was stacked against him. But unlike so many, he never gave up hope, never fell to despair or addiction, and God saw something in him that He used in the most powerful way -- humility -- and it shook a devil's foothold right out of my soul. (God blessed this man's work ethic as well, and the years of hard work, scrimping and saving when everyone else made fun of him, are now paying off.)
But we have always been just friends, and we both know it might always be that way, so we both move on in life.
You see, sometimes you can know one of the best people you've ever met, and it might check all the boxes, dot all your i's, cross all your t's, and seem so logical that to NOT be together seems to go against all common sense.
But the most crucial thing of all is what GOD says. And for whatever reason, God tells us no, for whatever is His reason -- and sometimes the most important thing isn't to be married or single, but to listen to what God says -- and obey.
I don't know why, but I feel like God has told me the reason we've had such a powerful effect on each other's lives is BECAUSE we HAVEN'T dated, and that if we did (right now, at least,) He would not bless it.
And there is a myriad of other evidence for that, of which I shouldn't have to and won't go into publicly, as it involves our families.
We know God is telling us NO, and we don't fully know why -- but we also know to obey.
And obedience has NOTHING to do with what kind of diet either of us chooses.
(Likewise, if God pointed out a vegan man and said, "That's the one!", you can bet your bottom dollar I would have to investigate.)
The prosecution rests your honor with the confession of the accused.
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How often did you kiss first dates? Maybe you give them away on a first shot, but I don't.
I sure hope going out to dinner with someone doesn't warrant a kiss -- especially since I paid my own way. I never want a guy to feel I used him for anything -- or that I owe him anything, either.
For me, a kiss means my heart is at least partially romantically locked in, and it would take a lot more time and investment for my heart to get that involved.
But if you gave yours away that easily and kissed all the girls you went out with, well, we all have different styles.
Your honor, if my crime is not being loosy goosy with even my kisses, I'm proud to be guilty.
I sure hope going out to dinner with someone doesn't warrant a kiss -- especially since I paid my own way. I never want a guy to feel I used him for anything -- or that I owe him anything, either.
For me, a kiss means my heart is at least partially romantically locked in, and it would take a lot more time and investment for my heart to get that involved.
But if you gave yours away that easily and kissed all the girls you went out with, well, we all have different styles.
Your honor, if my crime is not being loosy goosy with even my kisses, I'm proud to be guilty.
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Lol. The whole exchange of these posts I've been having in these threads is completely ridiculous, but I made the decision to participate, so I'm game to play along.
I know I must sound like the World's Biggest Prude, especially at m age, but this had me thinking about the number of guys I've kissed in my entire life. I can't think of many. I had a whole lot more dates than kisses, and I'm glad for that.
For me, kissing is an extremely personal and romantic gesture that really means something. If someone is giving them away left and right to anyone they go out with -- uh, no, that's not for me, thanks.
It seems like a lot of people develop addictions to co-dependency and "wanting to feel as if they're in love," so many get to a point where they can't just kiss and stop, because it leaves them craving more. I'd prefer not to flirt with fallen human nature if I can avoid it, whether in me, or in someone else.
To me, if someone gives out kisses easily, it means:
1. A kiss doesn't mean much to them, because they can give them away so easily and freely -- even to people they don't really care that much about. But the opportunity was there, so "Hey, why not?" No thanks.
2. A kiss does mean something to them, but they're so used to giving them out and trying to chase a high with everyone they go out with, I'm just another piece of meat to chugging down the conveyor belt that they want to artificially and temporarily bond with. Again, no thanks.
Humans have a tendency to fall nature to habit. People are often not good at self-control, as evidenced by America's obesity epidemic. We're just not good at controlling ourselves to turn down things that seem really appealing at the time.
I have this hunch that if you're in a relationship or marriage with someone who's used to giving away pieces of themselves, even as small as kisses, without much restraint -- what's going to stop them from looking around and/or kissing someone else when your relationship with them has extended rocky times? They're likely going to default back to something that was second nature to them.
I'd rather be around someone who has put in a lot of work to practice self-control -- not perfectly, because we all stumble somewhere along the line, and of course it's no guarantee. But at least they have experience with recognizing what might be a trigger or a problem, and they have regular, lived-out practice at denying themselves because of that.
Practicing and finding self-control in others seems to be a very underrated trait in dating, but it also seems essential, especially for Christians.
And I certainly don't follow all the rules perfectly.
It's just that I've learned a lot about trying to prevent disasters by being conservative, rather than cheering them on -- even though others will obviously make fun of that.
I know I must sound like the World's Biggest Prude, especially at m age, but this had me thinking about the number of guys I've kissed in my entire life. I can't think of many. I had a whole lot more dates than kisses, and I'm glad for that.
For me, kissing is an extremely personal and romantic gesture that really means something. If someone is giving them away left and right to anyone they go out with -- uh, no, that's not for me, thanks.
It seems like a lot of people develop addictions to co-dependency and "wanting to feel as if they're in love," so many get to a point where they can't just kiss and stop, because it leaves them craving more. I'd prefer not to flirt with fallen human nature if I can avoid it, whether in me, or in someone else.
To me, if someone gives out kisses easily, it means:
1. A kiss doesn't mean much to them, because they can give them away so easily and freely -- even to people they don't really care that much about. But the opportunity was there, so "Hey, why not?" No thanks.
2. A kiss does mean something to them, but they're so used to giving them out and trying to chase a high with everyone they go out with, I'm just another piece of meat to chugging down the conveyor belt that they want to artificially and temporarily bond with. Again, no thanks.
Humans have a tendency to fall nature to habit. People are often not good at self-control, as evidenced by America's obesity epidemic. We're just not good at controlling ourselves to turn down things that seem really appealing at the time.
I have this hunch that if you're in a relationship or marriage with someone who's used to giving away pieces of themselves, even as small as kisses, without much restraint -- what's going to stop them from looking around and/or kissing someone else when your relationship with them has extended rocky times? They're likely going to default back to something that was second nature to them.
I'd rather be around someone who has put in a lot of work to practice self-control -- not perfectly, because we all stumble somewhere along the line, and of course it's no guarantee. But at least they have experience with recognizing what might be a trigger or a problem, and they have regular, lived-out practice at denying themselves because of that.
Practicing and finding self-control in others seems to be a very underrated trait in dating, but it also seems essential, especially for Christians.
And I certainly don't follow all the rules perfectly.
It's just that I've learned a lot about trying to prevent disasters by being conservative, rather than cheering them on -- even though others will obviously make fun of that.
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You can't, you simply CAN'T take a JohnDB post seriously. If you don't play it for its comedic value or put him on ignore, you must certainly go mad.
Remember the treatise on single people with which he blessed us?
https://christianchat.com/christian-singles-forum/trouble-with-friends.211054/#post-5081331
(And by the way Johnny, you still owe cinder that reply you promised.)
It's pretty obvious he's going to keep making these blithe assumptions, like a Lanolin who likes to bake. Either play it for the punchline or sail on past. If you take him seriously all it will do is tie your guts up in knots.
Remember the treatise on single people with which he blessed us?
https://christianchat.com/christian-singles-forum/trouble-with-friends.211054/#post-5081331
(And by the way Johnny, you still owe cinder that reply you promised.)
It's pretty obvious he's going to keep making these blithe assumptions, like a Lanolin who likes to bake. Either play it for the punchline or sail on past. If you take him seriously all it will do is tie your guts up in knots.
Well, you know I don't put people on Ignore (if you try to write threads and have people on Ignore, you can't answer them very well without being able to see what people are saying.)
The thing that's so funny is that John seems to be using all these things to try to justify his original statement that "real" men can't possibly be vegans.
So I said, "Hey, I went out with a real man who was a vegan just recently," and now he's saying, "BUT, you wouldn't rearrange your life for him, right? So I was right because this vegan wasn't a real man!" And now it's, "BUT, you didn't kiss this guy who was a vegan, so obviously, I'm doubly right in making this broad statement that vegans are not real men!"
What in the world, lol. Then again, I've been drawn to underdogs my whole life. Nothing makes me happier than when someone who's always told, "You can't be this," or "You'll never do that," proves the person who said that was wrong -- 10 times over.
And I remember his posts where he was shouting at me in all caps to STOP PSYCHOANALYING HIM because he said I was terrible at it, and to STOP PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, when I was actually quoting his old posts back to him. So I won't be surprised if he explodes at me with random things again at any given time.
I used to think John was like a cool uncle/father figure who used to hang with us in Singles. But then he started regularly talking down about singles and how he pretty much sees them as lesser human beings, so I'm honestly puzzled as to why he still inserts himself into Singles discussions. Why purposely force yourself into conversations of a classification of people you see as being beneath you? I can only conclude that he seems to enjoy bullying and making fun of singles.
I guess he just likes dallying with the peasants every now and then, and to each their own.
And since he seems to think that me not kissing this guy is somehow proof that he wasn't "a real man," does that mean he had to kiss all the women he was around in order to prove that they were real women? Again, how often did HE kiss his first dates?
I'd genuinely be interested in the answers to the questions I've asked him, but I know he dishes out and never answers them directly, so...
I just tend to find what amusement I can along the way.
The thing that's so funny is that John seems to be using all these things to try to justify his original statement that "real" men can't possibly be vegans.
So I said, "Hey, I went out with a real man who was a vegan just recently," and now he's saying, "BUT, you wouldn't rearrange your life for him, right? So I was right because this vegan wasn't a real man!" And now it's, "BUT, you didn't kiss this guy who was a vegan, so obviously, I'm doubly right in making this broad statement that vegans are not real men!"
What in the world, lol. Then again, I've been drawn to underdogs my whole life. Nothing makes me happier than when someone who's always told, "You can't be this," or "You'll never do that," proves the person who said that was wrong -- 10 times over.
And I remember his posts where he was shouting at me in all caps to STOP PSYCHOANALYING HIM because he said I was terrible at it, and to STOP PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, when I was actually quoting his old posts back to him. So I won't be surprised if he explodes at me with random things again at any given time.
I used to think John was like a cool uncle/father figure who used to hang with us in Singles. But then he started regularly talking down about singles and how he pretty much sees them as lesser human beings, so I'm honestly puzzled as to why he still inserts himself into Singles discussions. Why purposely force yourself into conversations of a classification of people you see as being beneath you? I can only conclude that he seems to enjoy bullying and making fun of singles.
I guess he just likes dallying with the peasants every now and then, and to each their own.
And since he seems to think that me not kissing this guy is somehow proof that he wasn't "a real man," does that mean he had to kiss all the women he was around in order to prove that they were real women? Again, how often did HE kiss his first dates?
I'd genuinely be interested in the answers to the questions I've asked him, but I know he dishes out and never answers them directly, so...
I just tend to find what amusement I can along the way.
Well, you know I don't put people on Ignore (if you try to write threads and have people on Ignore, you can't answer them very well without being able to see what people are saying.)
The thing that's so funny is that John seems to be using all these things to try to justify his original statement that "real" men can't possibly be vegans.
So I said, "Hey, I went out with a real man who was a vegan just recently," and now he's saying, "BUT, you wouldn't rearrange your life for him, right? So I was right because this vegan wasn't a real man!" And now it's, "BUT, you didn't kiss this guy who was a vegan, so obviously, I'm doubly right in making this broad statement that vegans are not real men!"
What in the world, lol. Then again, I've been drawn to underdogs my whole life. Nothing makes me happier than when someone who's always told, "You can't be this," or "You'll never do that," proves the person who said that was wrong -- 10 times over.
And I remember his posts where he was shouting at me in all caps to STOP PSYCHOANALYING HIM because he said I was terrible at it, and to STOP PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, when I was actually quoting his old posts back to him. So I won't be surprised if he explodes at me with random things again at any given time.
I used to think John was like a cool uncle/father figure who used to hang with us in Singles. But then he started regularly talking down about singles and how he pretty much sees them as lesser human beings, so I'm honestly puzzled as to why he still inserts himself into Singles discussions. Why purposely force yourself into conversations of a classification of people you see as being beneath you? I can only conclude that he seems to enjoy bullying and making fun of singles.
I guess he just likes dallying with the peasants every now and then, and to each their own.
And since he seems to think that me not kissing this guy is somehow proof that he wasn't "a real man," does that mean he had to kiss all the women he was around in order to prove that they were real women? Again, how often did HE kiss his first dates?
I'd genuinely be interested in the answers to the questions I've asked him, but I know he dishes out and never answers them directly, so...
I just tend to find what amusement I can along the way.
The thing that's so funny is that John seems to be using all these things to try to justify his original statement that "real" men can't possibly be vegans.
So I said, "Hey, I went out with a real man who was a vegan just recently," and now he's saying, "BUT, you wouldn't rearrange your life for him, right? So I was right because this vegan wasn't a real man!" And now it's, "BUT, you didn't kiss this guy who was a vegan, so obviously, I'm doubly right in making this broad statement that vegans are not real men!"
What in the world, lol. Then again, I've been drawn to underdogs my whole life. Nothing makes me happier than when someone who's always told, "You can't be this," or "You'll never do that," proves the person who said that was wrong -- 10 times over.
And I remember his posts where he was shouting at me in all caps to STOP PSYCHOANALYING HIM because he said I was terrible at it, and to STOP PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, when I was actually quoting his old posts back to him. So I won't be surprised if he explodes at me with random things again at any given time.
I used to think John was like a cool uncle/father figure who used to hang with us in Singles. But then he started regularly talking down about singles and how he pretty much sees them as lesser human beings, so I'm honestly puzzled as to why he still inserts himself into Singles discussions. Why purposely force yourself into conversations of a classification of people you see as being beneath you? I can only conclude that he seems to enjoy bullying and making fun of singles.
I guess he just likes dallying with the peasants every now and then, and to each their own.
And since he seems to think that me not kissing this guy is somehow proof that he wasn't "a real man," does that mean he had to kiss all the women he was around in order to prove that they were real women? Again, how often did HE kiss his first dates?
I'd genuinely be interested in the answers to the questions I've asked him, but I know he dishes out and never answers them directly, so...
I just tend to find what amusement I can along the way.
And I liked it"
Wait... That was something totally different. Ne'mind.
If you have ever seen the character known as Q in the Star Trek universe, it seems to be common for people to consort with those on whom they look down. Q is always insulting them, but can't seem to stay away from them. The Enterprise crew have often asked why he keeps coming around, if he sees them as so far beneath himself.
Not that this explains the impulse, but it's another data point... Albeit a fictional one.
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"I kissed a girl, and I liked it." Wait... That was something totally different. Ne'mind.
If you have ever seen the character known as Q in the Star Trek universe, it seems to be common for people to consort with those on whom they look down. Q is always insulting them, but can't seem to stay away from them. The Enterprise crew have often asked why he keeps coming around, if he sees them as so far beneath himself.
Not that this explains the impulse, but it's another data point... Albeit a fictional one.
If you have ever seen the character known as Q in the Star Trek universe, it seems to be common for people to consort with those on whom they look down. Q is always insulting them, but can't seem to stay away from them. The Enterprise crew have often asked why he keeps coming around, if he sees them as so far beneath himself.
Not that this explains the impulse, but it's another data point... Albeit a fictional one.
Even I had to laugh at that song reference.
Actually, the only reason I even said anything in the first place is because, hanging out in the financial Discord community, I know men are being told a barrage of negative things.
So I just wanted to assure anyone in the audience that if they're looking for a vegan, and that's God's will for them, go for it! And if there are any men in the audience wondering if a woman would look down on them for being vegan, absolutely not!
At least, not in the circles I hang out with. But that's just me.
Others have their own views, and I understand that, but I thought it might be important for any vegan men out there to know that there are those of us (and some of us are even women!) who know that yes, real men CAN be vegans, too.
I've always encountered a lot of, "That can't be possible!" situations in life.
So if I know of, or better yet, have lived through an exception, I'm almost always going to speak up.
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Fortunately my hair has begun going grey, so they have stopped asking.
My face has always looked younger than my years, so I was VERY impatient for my hair to start changing. When I had dark brown hair, well meaning old ladies would try to pair me with teen girls they thought should meet a good man. It was embarassing for everyone involved.
With grey hair I don't have to deal with them offering sugar anymore. Even granulated sugar - They assume anybody with that much grey has to be diabetic by now.
My face has always looked younger than my years, so I was VERY impatient for my hair to start changing. When I had dark brown hair, well meaning old ladies would try to pair me with teen girls they thought should meet a good man. It was embarassing for everyone involved.
With grey hair I don't have to deal with them offering sugar anymore. Even granulated sugar - They assume anybody with that much grey has to be diabetic by now.
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