Loss of salvation???
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Perhaps you are correct.
My use of the term "gospel" has to do with the absolute point for salvation. It also applies to the good news for the birth and life and fulfillment Christ effected in the redemption of mankind, which are indeed all important parts to the overall message of the gospel. However, my fixation is specifically on the elements necessary for HOW one is saved rather than to rehash what is already known by the general populace of this thread.
Thanks for the heads up on the need to clarify.
MM
My use of the term "gospel" has to do with the absolute point for salvation. It also applies to the good news for the birth and life and fulfillment Christ effected in the redemption of mankind, which are indeed all important parts to the overall message of the gospel. However, my fixation is specifically on the elements necessary for HOW one is saved rather than to rehash what is already known by the general populace of this thread.
Thanks for the heads up on the need to clarify.
MM
This is where it gets into a gray area for me. I still see ONE gospel(salvation.) The Kingdom Gospel is definitely for the Jews. The Jews and the Church have different roles in the Kingdom.
The Jews were PHD level in the Torah/ OT. They knew about all the symbolism, signs, wonders, ect..
The gentiles knew nothing about any of it.
So the Jews got the message, "have you not heard?"
And the Gentiles got the message, " You have not heard."
The Jews were PHD level in the Torah/ OT. They knew about all the symbolism, signs, wonders, ect..
The gentiles knew nothing about any of it.
So the Jews got the message, "have you not heard?"
And the Gentiles got the message, " You have not heard."
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The New Covenant and the shadow covenant with Abraham.
Genesis 15:6
Then he believed in the Lord; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.
Was fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
You said, "some of the terms of the Abrahamic covenant have been fulfilled"?
Genesis 15:6
Then he believed in the Lord; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.
Was fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
You said, "some of the terms of the Abrahamic covenant have been fulfilled"?
Though the salvation message is Good News?
There is much more to it than simply that.
No OT believer was promised to have a resurrection body just like the Lord Jesus Christ.
Nor was any promised to reign as the Bride of Christ with the Lord.
Good News encompasses much more than the concept of salvation by faith.
There is much more to it than simply that.
No OT believer was promised to have a resurrection body just like the Lord Jesus Christ.
Nor was any promised to reign as the Bride of Christ with the Lord.
Good News encompasses much more than the concept of salvation by faith.
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
I can go deeper into this if you like, going back as far as to a parable Jesus spoke that addresses this very thing...fitting it like a glove.
MM
I can go deeper into this if you like, going back as far as to a parable Jesus spoke that addresses this very thing...fitting it like a glove.
MM
Exactly. After Joshua there are additional predictions about Israel and the land promises.
Amos 9:14–15 (NASB95)
14 “Also I will restore the captivity of My people Israel,
And they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them;
They will also plant vineyards and drink their wine,
And make gardens and eat their fruit.
15 “I will also plant them on their land,
And they will not again be …
In Joshua there were still "subdued" enemies in the land.
The Abrahamic covenant has Israel in the Land FOREVER with no enemies.
Amos 9:14–15 (NASB95)
14 “Also I will restore the captivity of My people Israel,
And they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them;
They will also plant vineyards and drink their wine,
And make gardens and eat their fruit.
15 “I will also plant them on their land,
And they will not again be …
In Joshua there were still "subdued" enemies in the land.
The Abrahamic covenant has Israel in the Land FOREVER with no enemies.
The Gentiles are now doing a job that the Jews used to be delegated to do.
Example? Jonah was to evangelize the Ninevites.
Jonah balked.... but ended up going just the same.
Today, it is the Church that is to evangelize people in the world.
In the Millennium the Jews will once more be God's go-to representative people in the world.
As for us, the Church?
We will not be of this earth.
Our home will be in heaven, and we will commute to the new earth to do as God delegates.
Example? Jonah was to evangelize the Ninevites.
Jonah balked.... but ended up going just the same.
Today, it is the Church that is to evangelize people in the world.
In the Millennium the Jews will once more be God's go-to representative people in the world.
As for us, the Church?
We will not be of this earth.
Our home will be in heaven, and we will commute to the new earth to do as God delegates.
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Romans 4:3
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
From here we see the slow and methodical fall of Israel.
Faith alone................................................................................................................................................................................................Pharisees.
Today with the church.
Faith alone...................................................................................................................................................................................
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
From here we see the slow and methodical fall of Israel.
Faith alone................................................................................................................................................................................................Pharisees.
Today with the church.
Faith alone...................................................................................................................................................................................